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i usually go to mass on saturdays. so yesterday i did an examination in preperation for confession. looking over the questions i noticed some things that i did not think of as sins and now i’m a bit confused about some of them. but 1 in particular is troubling; is it ok for me to use non-catholic materials to help me study and read God’s word? Specifically i have been watching and reading “InTouch”. i think is baptist or maybe lutheran, i’m not sure. but the way he spoke drew me and encouraged me to read my bible.
i try to look at it thru a Catholic perspective which is why i joined this site to assist. should i keep doing this? also, am i suppossed to be giving something up and/or not eating meat every friday of the year? i’m still confused about this becuase it is on thation list.
 
THE CURSE OF BROADMINDEDNESS
Bishop Fulton J. Sheen
Taken from the book “Moods and Truths”
Published in 1932

“The Catholic Church is intolerant.” … When proof for this statement is asked, it is retorted that the Church is intolerant because of its self-complacency and smug satisfaction as the unique interpreter of the thoughts of Christ. Its narrow-mindedness is supposed to be revealed in its unwillingness to cooperate effectively with other Christian bodies that are working for the union of churches.
… The eyes of Jesus and Annas met, and the first world conference on religion opened. Annas, ironically feigning surprise at the sight of the prisoner whom multitudes followed the week before, opened the meeting by asking Jesus to make plain two important religious matters, the two that were discussed later on in Lausanne and Geneva and Stockholm, namely, the question of His doctrine and the question of His ministry. Our Lord was asked by a religious man, a religious leader, and a religious authority, representative of the Common faith of a nation, to enter into discussion, to sit down to a conference on the all-important questions of religion-ministry and discipline-and He refused! And the world’s first Church Conference was a failure.
In so many words Jesus said to Annas: “You imply by your questioning that I am not Divine; that I am just the same as the other rabbis going up and down the country-side; that I am another one of Israel’s prophets, and at the most, only a man. I know that you would welcome Me to your heart if I would say that I am only human. But no! I have spoken openly to the world. I have declared My Divinity; I say unto you, I have exercised the right of Divinity, for I have forgiven sins; I have left my Body and Blood for posterity, and rather than deny its reality I have lost those who followed Me, who were scandalized at My words. It was only last night that I told Philip that the Father and I are One, and that I will ask My Father to send the Spirit of Truth to the Church I have founded on Peter, which will endure to the end of time. … And if your first principle is that I am not Divine, but am just human like yourself, then there is nothing in common between us. So, why asketh thou Me to discuss doctrine and ministry with you?”…
… I know that you will welcome me to your conferences if I say I am not Divine; I know Ritualists throughout the world feel the need of my ceremonials, and would grasp my hand if I would but relinquish my claim to be Divine; I know a recent writer has argued that the great organization of the Church could be the framework for the union of all Christendom, if I would give up my claim to be the Truth; I know the church doors of the world would rejoice to see me pass in ; I know your welcome would be sincere; I know you desire the union of all Christendom-but I cannot. ‘Why do you ask me?’ if your first principle is that I am not Divine, but just a human organization like your own, that I am a human institution like all other human institutions founded by erring men and erring women. If your first principle is that I am human, but not divine, then there is no common ground for conference. I must refuse."
Such indifference to the oneness of truth is at the root of all the assumptions so current in present-day thinking that religion is an open question, like the tariff, whereas science is a closed question, like the multiplication table. …This kind of broadmindedness which sacrifices principles to whims, dissolves entities into environment, and reduces truth to opinion, is an unmistakable sign of the decay of the logical faculty.
Now this is precisely the attitude of the Church on the subject of the world conferences on religion. She holds that just as the truth is one in geography, in chemistry, and mathematics, so too there is one truth in religion, and if we are intolerant about the truth that two times two equals four, then we should also be intolerant about those principles on which is hinged the only really important thing in the world, namely, the salvation of our immortal soul. If the assumption is that there is no Divinity, no oneness about truth, but only opinion, probability, and compromise, then the Church must refrain from participation. Any conference on religion, therefore, which starts with the assumption that there is no such thing as truth, and that contrary and contradictory sects may be united in a federation of broad¬mindedness, must never expect the Church to join or cooperate.
The world may disagree with the Church, but the world knows very definitely with what it is disagreeing. In the future as in the past, the Church will be intolerant about the sanctity of marriage, for what God has joined together no man shall put asunder; she will be intolerant about her creed, and be ready to die for it, for she fears not those who kill the body, but rather those who have the power to cast body and soul into hell. She will be intolerant about her infallibility, for “Lo,” says Christ, “I am with you all the days even unto the end of the world.” And while she is intolerant even to blood, in adhering to the truths given her by her Divine Founder, she will be tolerant to those who say she is intolerant, for the same Divine Founder has taught her to say: “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do.”
There are only two positions to take concerning truth, and both of them had their hearing centuries ago in the court-room of Solomon where two women claimed a babe. A babe is like truth; it is one; it is whole; it is organic and it cannot be divided. The real mother of 'the babe would accept no compromise. She was intolerant about her claim. She must have the whole babe, or nothing-the intolerance of Motherhood. But the false mother was tolerant. She was willing to compromise. She was willing to divide the babe-and the babe would have met its death through broadmindedness.

Peace
 
i usually go to mass on saturdays. so yesterday i did an examination in preperation for confession. looking over the questions i noticed some things that i did not think of as sins and now i’m a bit confused about some of them. but 1 in particular is troubling; is it ok for me to use non-catholic materials to help me study and read God’s word? Specifically i have been watching and reading “InTouch”. i think is baptist or maybe lutheran, i’m not sure. but the way he spoke drew me and encouraged me to read my bible.
i try to look at it thru a Catholic perspective which is why i joined this site to assist. should i keep doing this? also, am i suppossed to be giving something up and/or not eating meat every friday of the year? i’m still confused about this becuase it is on thation list.
Dr. Charles Stanley is Baptist, not Lutheran (his program is more non-denominational, he doesn’t advertise that he’s a Baptist). Some of what he preaches is actually antithetical to Catholic teaching, and it’s not easy to pick out what those points are unless you are an experienced theologian. I would advise you NOT to spend time with In Touch ministries although he does know his Bible front and back (remember, there are 12 missing books though!) like most Baptist ministers.
 
thank you.
it seems to be then a matter of opinion on what i read. i do know that i need to exercise care when looking at protestant materials. that is why i joined this site. and my bible is a catholic one. stanley is the one that made me most interested in actually reading it and the magazine gives daily reflection thingies.
i pray for understanding before i look at the readings. and i look thru the discussions on this site and articles from other catholic sites as well to help me.
still, being catholic can be so confusing sometimes! learning is slow. but i keep going and start doing something special for fridays.
thank you all for your support and advice. 😃
 
thank you.
it seems to be then a matter of opinion on what i read. i do know that i need to exercise care when looking at protestant materials. that is why i joined this site. and my bible is a catholic one. stanley is the one that made me most interested in actually reading it and the magazine gives daily reflection thingies.
i pray for understanding before i look at the readings. and i look thru the discussions on this site and articles from other catholic sites as well to help me.
still, being catholic can be so confusing sometimes! learning is slow. but i keep going and start doing something special for fridays.
thank you all for your support and advice. 😃
No, you have misunderstood. It is BEST if you do not submerge yourself in Protestant teachings and beliefs. Read and study CATHOLIC material instead. Yes, their ministers can be quite charismatic. But I do not get the sense that you will be able to discern the errors that they teach. I used to listen to Charles Stanley and other “Bible-believing Christians” on the radio. And then I realized that I was absorbing their system of thought and that I do not have enough of a well-formed conscience to be able to recognize all of their errors. So I no longer listen to it, no matter how attractive it is. To me, it is akin to marketing. They do not have the actual product, the Eucharist, so they have to “sell the sizzle,” so to speak. They will never see Christ as we do. I feel more pity for them than than anything else.

I would recommend that you watch EWTN and read Catholic apologetics instead. Scott Hahn and Peter Kreeft have tons of books between the two of them and you can find audio files of their talks on line as well.
 
No, you have misunderstood. It is BEST if you do not submerge yourself in Protestant teachings and beliefs. Read and study CATHOLIC material instead. Yes, their ministers can be quite charismatic. But I do not get the sense that you will be able to discern the errors that they teach. I used to listen to Charles Stanley and other “Bible-believing Christians” on the radio. And then I realized that I was absorbing their system of thought and that I do not have enough of a well-formed conscience to be able to recognize all of their errors. So I no longer listen to it, no matter how attractive it is. To me, it is akin to marketing. They do not have the actual product, the Eucharist, so they have to “sell the sizzle,” so to speak. They will never see Christ as we do. I feel more pity for them than than anything else.

I would recommend that you watch EWTN and read Catholic apologetics instead. Scott Hahn and Peter Kreeft have tons of books between the two of them and you can find audio files of their talks on line as well.
This!!!..and then some! Absolutely EWTN. Scott Hahn and Peter Kreeft are two of the best.

Peace, Mark
 
No, you have misunderstood. It is BEST if you do not submerge yourself in Protestant teachings and beliefs. Read and study CATHOLIC material instead. Yes, their ministers can be quite charismatic. But I do not get the sense that you will be able to discern the errors that they teach. I used to listen to Charles Stanley and other “Bible-believing Christians” on the radio. And then I realized that I was absorbing their system of thought and that I do not have enough of a well-formed conscience to be able to recognize all of their errors. So I no longer listen to it, no matter how attractive it is. To me, it is akin to marketing. They do not have the actual product, the Eucharist, so they have to “sell the sizzle,” so to speak. They will never see Christ as we do. I feel more pity for them than than anything else.

I would recommend that you watch EWTN and read Catholic apologetics instead. Scott Hahn and Peter Kreeft have tons of books between the two of them and you can find audio files of their talks on line as well.
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i saw kreeft’s name in another post and he sounded interesting. i have no money to invest in books right now but i was going to see if anything of his was available at the library. i picked up a ewtn flyer at church. i didn’t know they were an all catholic channel. i thought they were everything. i’m also looking into the divine mercy chaplet. still trying to understand exactly what a chaplet is!!! sometimes i feel so ignorant about my faith but i am trying to learn.
it’s kind of odd because i feel myself changing; going like in the opposite direction from how i am, softening. thinking about things differently. reacting to things differently. is it always like that when you expose yourself to something? to God?
 
thank you.
it seems to be then a matter of opinion on what i read. i do know that i need to exercise care when looking at protestant materials. that is why i joined this site. and my bible is a catholic one. stanley is the one that made me most interested in actually reading it and the magazine gives daily reflection thingies.
i pray for understanding before i look at the readings. and i look thru the discussions on this site and articles from other catholic sites as well to help me.
still, being catholic can be so confusing sometimes! learning is slow. but i keep going and start doing something special for fridays.
thank you all for your support and advice. 😃
I wouldn’t say it is a “matter of opinion” but more of a matter of discernment and prudence.

Faith is a virtue and we want to grow in that virtue. We do not want to place it in danger through what we read, watch, and listen to.

We are very blessed to have lots and lots of great Catholic materials available to us at present. It would take several lifetimes just to go through the free Catholic resources available online. With such wealth at our fingertips, I think that should be the first place we turn to for information.

This is not to disparage the work being done by our Protestant brothers and sisters. They often have good things to say and we share much in common with them. But as TheRealJuliane pointed out, sometimes it can be difficult for us – especially when we’re just getting acclimated to all things theological — to pick out the truth from the error. The differences can be subtle but significant.

Yes, learning is slow. 🙂 Most good things in life take time. You’ll get the hang of it. Keep up your prayer life and keep learning. This website is a great resource. If there’s ever some specific type of resource you are looking for, just ask. Many of us are more than happy to chime in with recommendations. 😉
 
i saw kreeft’s name in another post and he sounded interesting. i have no money to invest in books right now but i was going to see if anything of his was available at the library. i picked up a ewtn flyer at church. i didn’t know they were an all catholic channel. i thought they were everything. i’m also looking into the divine mercy chaplet. still trying to understand exactly what a chaplet is!!! sometimes i feel so ignorant about my faith but i am trying to learn.
Peter Kreeft has some of his writing available on his website: peterkreeft.com. He’s been one of my favorites for many years. It was picking up one of his books 15 years ago that reignited my desire to learn about my faith. Before that, I was just going through the motions. I cannot say enough good things about him. 🙂
it’s kind of odd because i feel myself changing; going like in the opposite direction from how i am, softening. thinking about things differently. reacting to things differently. is it always like that when you expose yourself to something? to God?
For someone who claims to be so ignorant about your faith (;)), I think you have here beautifully articulated the essence of conversion. The fancy five dollar Greek word is metanoia, a “change of heart.” When we encounter the Lord, we cannot help but be changed.
 
i saw kreeft’s name in another post and he sounded interesting. i have no money to invest in books right now but i was going to see if anything of his was available at the library. i picked up a ewtn flyer at church. i didn’t know they were an all catholic channel. i thought they were everything. i’m also looking into the divine mercy chaplet. still trying to understand exactly what a chaplet is!!! sometimes i feel so ignorant about my faith but i am trying to learn.
it’s kind of odd because i feel myself changing; going like in the opposite direction from how i am, softening. thinking about things differently. reacting to things differently. is it always like that when you expose yourself to something? to God?
It sounds like the Holy Spirit is doing some work within you! 👍

This is good to hear. Yes, EWTN is all Catholic, it was started by Mother Angelica some years ago. You may not find any of Peter Kreeft’s books at a public library. They are not usually very religion-friendly, but maybe you can locate some.

A chaplet is similar to a rosary, but usually shorter in length. You can say it by yourself or with a group of people. If you say it by yourself, you say all the parts - if someone else leads, they will say the first part and the rest of the people will say the finishing part of the statement.

Please immerse yourself in Catholicism and not Protestantism! Believe me, it does make a tremendous difference! You don’t want to have to go back and sort through all the errors that you accepted without knowing they were erroneous!

🙂
 
i’ve never noticed the library having any view whatsoever regarding religion. they have plenty of bibles and books from pretty much most religions as far as i can tell.
be that as it may, i looked at some of the stuff from kreeft’s site. unfortunately, you have to pay for the audios, which i can’t until i get a new job. but i was reading some and i liked it mostly. he’s got a good sense of humor. but then he has a part about angels. i know angels exist. but i did not know that guardian angels are real and like hang out with you and try to guide you. i never heard this as being a part of catholic teaching. its a bit confusing to me. its also kinda, well i don’t know what word to put here, but the idea that some spirit is just - there, watching everything i do. how boring is that! except maybe when i’m driving.
a couple of weeks ago i was driving and nearly had a fatal accident TWICE. and one minor mental breakdown when i got lost. (i always get anxious when i get lost)
would you say that i did then have an angel that intervened to save me? i thought maybe God must have something He really wants me to do cause i should have crashed out both times.
i hate to drive…
 
i’ve never noticed the library having any view whatsoever regarding religion. they have plenty of bibles and books from pretty much most religions as far as i can tell.
be that as it may, i looked at some of the stuff from kreeft’s site. unfortunately, you have to pay for the audios, which i can’t until i get a new job. but i was reading some and i liked it mostly. he’s got a good sense of humor. but then he has a part about angels. i know angels exist. but i did not know that guardian angels are real and like hang out with you and try to guide you. i never heard this as being a part of catholic teaching. its a bit confusing to me. its also kinda, well i don’t know what word to put here, but the idea that some spirit is just - there, watching everything i do. how boring is that! except maybe when i’m driving.
a couple of weeks ago i was driving and nearly had a fatal accident TWICE. and one minor mental breakdown when i got lost. (i always get anxious when i get lost)
would you say that i did then have an angel that intervened to save me? i thought maybe God must have something He really wants me to do cause i should have crashed out both times.
i hate to drive…
Yes, guardian angels are real and we can talk to them and ask them to help us and pray for us. Read this page, there is a lot of info. on it about angels.

Angels
 
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