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fakename
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Is it okay, to make fun of devils, they seem to deserve it?
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Rascalking
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Oh yes. Read “The Screwtape Letters” by CS Lewis. It’s an incredibly amazing book with many interpretations, but it definitely makes fun of devils.
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jmj1984
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No, not unless one wants to attract their attention, increase their fury and risk being tempted and assaulted by them even more.
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pollycarp
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I regard them as something like a bad Hollyweird movie with really stupid special effects that keep trying to scare you, when you know…
It’s only a movie…
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It’s only a movie…
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Heuchler
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Well if you want to get under his skin, just defy him. Live a pious life. When life throws you lemons, be happy and smile. Don’t let your anger lead you to sin and do your best to never fall to temptation. But I don’t think taunting Satan will do any good, it won’t hurt his feelings, it won’t stop him, and it can’t help you. So, forget Satan and ignore his attempts to temp you if you want to get the best of him.
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Blenderx
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Never speak directly to a devil, but ask God to rebuke them. Otherwise, feel free to regard them with all the contempt and disdain they deserve, after the example of many saints like Teresa of Avila and Padre Pio, without paying undue attention to them.
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jmj1984
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Are you saying you dont believe in demons?
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Blenderx
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Sounds to me more like they’re saying they regard them as comically powerless. They’re all show, really. But have no power aside from what God allows them to do.
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jmj1984
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Ah, I understand. They do indeed have no power aside from what God gives them but they do have the power to tempt us considerably, to cause either obsession or depression and so forth…They are far more intelligent and more powerful than us our power consists solely of reliance on God, mocking them is therefore not a wise idea, as it may come from Pride, is also imprudent and will no doubt lead to an increase of temptation, something which no one needs.
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fakename
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But if all their power comes from God, and since God does good things, then we shouldn’t worry about their power since their ability to possess people is an evil ordered to some good. So even this demonic violence should not be feared.
That is, it would be unreasonably fearful to be afraid of something that is under God’s control, is out of your control, and is basically a means to a better end anyways.
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Blenderx
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Merely regarding them this way is not the same as mocking. It is not pride, either. Its merely seeing them as they are, and recognizing and trusting in God’s assistance, which is indeed powerful. We have nothing to fear from the attacks of the enemy, they will only lead to an increase in glory and virtue for us if we are humble and trust in God, Who makes us victorious. Even our falls are to His glory if we are quick to humble ourselves again and repent with renewed resolutions for good.
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fakename
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Second question but not unrelated (and I’m still taking answers for the first): IF you don’t take the devils seriously enough, then is that a mortal sin?
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underacloud
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I’m not sure in what manner you think you are encountering devils. Are you hearing or seeing things? Or is it more general; that you attribute certain temptations to them?
Many mystical writers have warned against reading too much into interior locutions because of the danger that they may not be from God. If you are hearing or seeing things, you should talk with a priest who can give you appropriate counsel.
If it is more general, then do not be so concerned. Always be prayful. In any time of temptation, whether it is a devil or simply our fallen nature, turn in prayer to God. You do not need to determine where temptations come from (nor could you anyway); just judge each temptation on its merits and turn away from sin.
It’s not about you and angels and devils, it’s about you and God. Turn to God and let the devils fight with Him.
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vera_dicere
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Hahah! Devils/demons are a pack of cowardly morons who have lost! We have nothing to fear from them as the only power they have over us is what we give them. Christ has freed us from their stupidity, we just have to choose, accept Christ’s salvation and freedom, or accept the temptation from a pack of loosers!
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pollycarp
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I absolutely positively 150% believe in demons because I believe I’ve experienced their works in my life, and this is just a strategy I’ve used to cope, along with trust in God.
They tormented saints like Padre Pio and John Vianney, but I can’t imagine them “making fun” of them. I agree that would not be wise.
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centurionguard
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One of the best tidbits of advice I’ve seen in this thread so far.I can’t for the life of me see why someone would want to waste the time and energy hurling insults and the like at Satan and his demons.
Satan is more likely to laugh such insults in your face. And if ongoing taunting insults against Satan really get serious you “just might” get an demonized insult back in your face.
I certainly don’t want to breed negative thoughts or play on the same ball field Satan and his cohorts are on. Ever heard of the old axiom: Don’t Play With Matches Or You Just Might Get Burned.
Its a waste of time and energy thinking its fun to insult Satan and his Demons.
Better to exercise that time and energy in fervent prayer staying away from the occasions of sin and what causes us in our weakness of the flesh that lead us to sin.
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fakename
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But why should we not make fun? It’s not like its unreasonable to be amused at creatures who attempted to overthrow God himself and @ once claim to be smarter than humans.
But if we don’t find amusement in that, solely because we are afraid of their powers, then are we not allowing fear to keep us from doing what is right, namely recognizing the absurdity of absurd creatures? We shouldn’t allow what amounts to cosmic school-yard bullies to keep us from recognizing their folly?
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perro_sarnoso
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No.
Demons are rebuked.
Not even St. Michael the Archangel mocks Lucifer. He rebukes him to the Lord. Don’t be misled by anyone on this thread into thinking that “it’s ok because of the screwtape letters”. That is not accurate nor true.
Fr. Jose Antonio Fortea tells of an exorcism in which a mother was allowed to pray during the exorcism of her daughter. In seeing the suffering of her daughter , she became angry at the demon. The demon (through her daugther) said to her, " you’re not going to get rid of me that way".
Mockery is not the way either. Don’t be fooled into personal dynamics with the demon.
Do not talk to the demon.
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Jaypeeto4
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**Is it okay, to make fun of devils, they seem to deserve it? **
I see two answers to this question.
One, if you are writing commentary for Christians to read,
and you poke some ridicule at the demons for their foolish belief that they
can overthrow God and His Reign, that kind of thing may be praiseworthy,
but even then, pray before you write.
The other answer depends on what you mean by make fun of them.
There are some ministers on TV who address the demons directly
and laugh at them and tease them and dare them to try and touch “God’s anointed,”
and other such antics. This used to be more widespread in the mid to late 1980s on TV
than it is now, thank God.
If you do stuff like THAT, I’d say you had BETTER make SURE that you have
an unusually super-close and super-intimate walk with Christ before you take it
on yourself to tease the devils, or more correctly, the demons.
They are unimaginably powerful beings. They are angels, powerful angels,
in total rebellion against God and filled with hatred for God and all people.
And they especially hate Christians. I was told that they would gladly kill every one of us, if God did not restrain them from doing so.
So, respect the power that God originally bestowed on these beings, and do NOT
tease or taunt them. If you do, God might just give them a little leeway to knock you around a bit. ((St. Michael the Archangel - even St. Michael !! - would not “dare” bring a railing (ridiculing) accusation against the devil himself.))
After all, they even attacked holy Saints like the Cure of Ars and Padre Pio.
Love to you,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
I see two answers to this question.
One, if you are writing commentary for Christians to read,
and you poke some ridicule at the demons for their foolish belief that they
can overthrow God and His Reign, that kind of thing may be praiseworthy,
but even then, pray before you write.
The other answer depends on what you mean by make fun of them.
There are some ministers on TV who address the demons directly
and laugh at them and tease them and dare them to try and touch “God’s anointed,”
and other such antics. This used to be more widespread in the mid to late 1980s on TV
than it is now, thank God.
If you do stuff like THAT, I’d say you had BETTER make SURE that you have
an unusually super-close and super-intimate walk with Christ before you take it
on yourself to tease the devils, or more correctly, the demons.
They are unimaginably powerful beings. They are angels, powerful angels,
in total rebellion against God and filled with hatred for God and all people.
And they especially hate Christians. I was told that they would gladly kill every one of us, if God did not restrain them from doing so.
So, respect the power that God originally bestowed on these beings, and do NOT
tease or taunt them. If you do, God might just give them a little leeway to knock you around a bit. ((St. Michael the Archangel - even St. Michael !! - would not “dare” bring a railing (ridiculing) accusation against the devil himself.))
After all, they even attacked holy Saints like the Cure of Ars and Padre Pio.
Love to you,
Jaypeeto4
+JMJ+
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VonDerTann
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Jaypeeto4 wrote this:
“[Demons] are unimaginably powerful beings. They are angels, powerful angels,
in total rebellion against God and filled with hatred for God and all people.
And they especially hate Christians. I was told that they would gladly kill every one of us, if God did not restrain them from doing so.
So, respect the power that God originally bestowed on these beings, and do NOT
tease or taunt them.”
–Correct, 100% IMHO. Nothing more to say.
“[Demons] are unimaginably powerful beings. They are angels, powerful angels,
in total rebellion against God and filled with hatred for God and all people.
And they especially hate Christians. I was told that they would gladly kill every one of us, if God did not restrain them from doing so.
So, respect the power that God originally bestowed on these beings, and do NOT
tease or taunt them.”
–Correct, 100% IMHO. Nothing more to say.
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