Is it proper to go up for a blessing when not receiving Communion?

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what **he is trying to say **is that if you can bring your young kids on the communion line (mind you they do not get a blessing–they are just to young to be left alone in the pew) then why cant someone else that is not getting communion come on line (so they can get a blessing) . COmparing apples to oranges if you ask me;)
Who would be a better judge of this me or you?
I understood what you meant, I had no idea where TR was going…
Actually I would like you to preach and practice the same so what are you practicing?
Ok:o
I have no idea where he is going either:shrug:
That is for you to judge however I do not believe this statement is correct. It seems avoiding questions is a major concern, so it appears you have already though out the answers.
 
Who would be a better judge of this me or you?
By all means;)
Actually I would like you to preach and practice the same so what are you practicing?
I am recieving communion not a blessing…what are you doing?
That is for you to judge however I do not believe this statement is correct. It seems avoiding questions is a major concern, so it appears you have already though out the answers.
What question have I avoided TR?
I have no idea what your getting at TR. You want me to leave my young kids in the pew so I can recieve Communion? Or is it that you feel “all” should be allowed on the Communion line?
This thread is about getting a blessing on the communion line. I have stated this is not what the line is for …yes I do take my kids up with me but they do not get a blessing, and the kids come with me becuase they are to young to sit in a pew by themselves.
What does this have to do with an adult getting a blessing becuase they want to “feel” a part of something:confused:
 
My youngest comes with me but does not recieve a blessing.He just stands beside me 🙂
nope 😃 communion line is for those recieving communion…not Blessingsand here i thought that this thread was about blessings in the communion line…silly me:eek:
By all means;)

I am recieving communion not a blessing…what are you doing?

What question have I avoided TR?
I have no idea what your getting at TR. You want me to leave my young kids in the pew so I can recieve Communion? Or is it that you feel “all” should be allowed on the Communion line?
This thread is about getting a blessing on the communion line. I have stated this is not what the line is for …**yes I do take my kids up with me **but they do not get a blessing, and the kids come with me becuase they are to young to sit in a pew by themselves.
What does this have to do with an adult getting a blessing becuase they want to “feel” a part of something:confused:
So is the line for those recieving communion or for your kids?
 
You know, the last time I checked, Jesus didn’t want people to be kept away from Him.

Luke 18: 15-16
Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them; and when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them. But Jesus called them to him, saying, "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God.


I understand that they can’t recieve communion, but there shouldn’t be anything wrong with them coming close to Jesus, and allowing the priest to lay his hand on them in blessing.
 
You know, the last time I checked, Jesus didn’t want people to be kept away from Him.

Luke 18: 15-16
Now they were bringing even infants to him that he might touch them; and when the disciples saw it, they rebuked them. But Jesus called them to him, saying, "Let the children come to me, and do not hinder them; for to such belongs the kingdom of God.


I understand that they can’t recieve communion, but there shouldn’t be anything wrong with them coming close to Jesus, and allowing the priest to lay his hand on them in blessing.
And what about adults? Should they go and get a blessing too?

FYI…my kids do not get a blessing on the comunion line;)
 
So is the line for those recieving communion or for your kids?
Again, are we to leave small children unattended in the pew?
Did you miss the parts where she says her children will walk up with her, but stand to the side and do not receive a blessing?
 
And what about adults? Should they go and get a blessing too?

FYI…my kids do not get a blessing on the comunion line;)
If you read on in the Bible Jesus tells everyone to approach the Kingdom of God like a child, so yes, adults too.
 
If you read on in the Bible Jesus tells everyone to approach the Kingdom of God like a child, so yes, adults too.
why get a blessing on the communion line when a blessing is given to all shortly afterwards?
 
why get a blessing on the communion line when a blessing is given to all shortly afterwards?
Why deny someone the oppurtunity to walk right up to where Jesus is actually present?

Additionally, you recieve more graces from Holy Communion, AND you get that blessing given shortly afterwards. Why can’t that person have just a blessing from the priest? It takes no longer than giving Communion
Where did Jesus, or the Catholic Church, say that there is a limit on the blessings one can recieve.
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noncatholics too?
Jesus didn’t keep the Gentiles away from Him? Why should we keep them away, if they’d like to see, and recieve a blessing?
 
As a recent convert I had no idea this was such a touchy subject.

I must say I do see some uncharitable posts by some Christians here. I understand people objecting to those who aren’t priests to give blessings, but for people to say “You won’t be getting a blessing from me” sounds so rude and unchristian-like. So hurting the feelings of a small child who didn’t realize he/she was doing something “wrong” (by some people’s opinion) is much better. Got it.:rolleyes: Surely, you could handle that situation with more tact. I understand some people think this is wrong, but behaving this way is also wrong in my opinion.

My goodness, they aren’t being disrespectful to Jesus by receiving a blessing when they can’t receive. We can discuss should they or shouldn’t they all day long, but to stand in front of your fellow man holding the body of Christ in your hands and behave in any kind of rude manner is a bigger problem than anyone wanting to receive a blessing. And if some people here can’t see that then I don’t know what to say.

Our parish priest encourages those who cannot receive to come up and receive a blessing. So, someone like me didn’t know there was a controversy over it. Now, you all can argue if he has the right to do that if you want. But my problem here is the way someone would treat their brother/sister in Christ in the communion line in a less than Christian manner. Receiving a blessing may be something that needs to be sorted out officially, but it’s not a sin to want a blessing, however, being flat out rude is a sin. But hey, who cares as long as you hold your ground and prove your point…right?

Somehow, I don’t believe Jesus would look at someone and say, “You’re not getting a blessing from me!”
 
noncatholics too?
YES!
I have sat here and prayed for you while reading this entire thread. I am ashamed that people who may be researching the Catholic faith and thinking of converting, may be exposed to your anger and what appears to be “judgmental” attitude.

Would Jesus not have loved and welcomed all who came forward for a blessing at any time? Do you believe that the priest is in “persona Christi” (in the person of Christ the head)? If so, then he should never turn away anyone who comes forward for a blessing.

Do you not feel that you can say “God Bless You” to someone?
Why is this so different from a lay minister doing the same?

I am very proud of those who come forward for a blessing and have the humbleness to bow before the Euchrist before receiving a simple blessing.

Why do you have so much anger over the issue?

**CHRIST NEVER TURNED AWAY THOSE WHO WERE SEEKING TO BE CLOSE TO HIM! HE CALLS US TO HIM! WE SHOULD STRIVE TO BE AS CLOSE TO HIM AS WE CAN GET. **
 
Hi.

I didn’t mean to start up a storm here. But, i just have to say, a couple of weeks ago I noticed one of my fellow RCIA’ers go up for a blessing. I have had a few conversations with her, and know some of her background and in-process conversion story and I know that her conversion process is nothing short of a miracle.

As she was walking back to the pew she was in tears. So yes, “feeling” is what she was doing. Obviously a very deep and profound feeling, and I am at a loss as to why anyone would believe that her need at that moment was any less than any other.

I have also been thinking about the idea that all are blessed at the end of mass. This is true. But also at our parish the priest will call up all the children after Communion and bless them. So? They are also there to receive the blessing given to all. Yet, our priest feels compelled to give them their own special blessing.

If someone were to say this was wrong, because they get blessed with the whole congregation, I’d wonder what was wrong with them. It is a very beautiful prayer to be a part of and to see and the children are blessed for it.

So I guess I go back to what I said originally about the priest at our parish. He sees nothing wrong with blessing and blessing and blessing. And I see no reason why I should believe anything is wrong with it either.

As for eucharist ministers…I come from a religious background where no one wears robes at church. it took me MONTHS to figure out who all the robed people are. I had no idea who was the priest, deacon, ministers. I didn’t even know these titles. All I knew is that somewhere in all those robes was a priest.

I feel bad for the rejection given to someone who may have not known who was who and what their roles are. Especially if the scenario was one where it was a first mass and someone informed him to join the Communion line with arms crossed. A little whisper of “only the priest gives blessings” would have been an ok thing to do, don’t you think?
 
LOL!

I was not born a Catholic I too entered the church via RCIA.
During the process I too felt I wanted to be closer to Jesus during Mass…never did I get up for a blessing as I knew that the Communion line was just that a line for Communion. I knew that I could make a spiritual communion sitting in my pew that would bring me closer to Jesus and if I had a real hankering to get even closer & personal I could attened our churches Adoration.

Each their own. If your priest has no issues with this then by all means get a blessing:rolleyes: I for one am thankful that our Parish and our Priests see no need to perform this “ritual” to make people “feel” welcome or a part of something. If you want to be a part of the commuion and are unable to recieve then sit in your pew and make a spirtiual communion (that is what it is there for)!
 
Jesus didn’t keep the Gentiles away from Him? Why should we keep them away, if they’d like to see, and recieve a blessing?
what is this show and tell or Mass?

The giving of blessings during Communion time is a sticky subject. There are several principles to keep in mind:

Since giving a blessing is not the same thing as giving Communion, this represents an interruption of the distribution of Communion.
It is not provided for in the liturgical books, and canon and liturgical law prohibit introducing new elements into the liturgy.
That being said, a priest is empowered to interrupt the liturgy for an adequate cause. For example, if a plane flies over during a prayer or his homily, he can pause for a moment until the plane is past.
It strikes me as reasonable–and it’s certainly within the realm of legitimate liturgical opinion to hold that it is reasonable–for a priest to pause the distribution of Communion in order to administer a blessing if the alternative is sending someone away disappointed and possibly angry and disaffected.
That being said, I would not be encouraging people to go up for such a blessing since it is not provided for in the liturgical books–yet. (See below on this.)
What I have said applies to priests and deacons. It does not necessarily apply to laity who are giving Communion and who are empowered to give blessings in many fewer circumstances than members of the clergy.

Having said that, I suspect that the giving of blessings during Communion time is may receive authorization at some point.

At the recent Synod of Bishops meeting on the Eucharist, the bishops talked about this practice as a way of giving people (including non-Catholics) a way to participate so that they don’t feel pressure to receive Communion if they aren’t able to receive it. We know that because the topic showd up in the Instrumentum laboris for the Synod, which stated:

Some responses [by bishops to a questionnaire sent out to prepare the groundwork for the Synod] mention that priests, while distributing Holy Communion, give a blessing to children or catechumens—both duly pointed out—who approach the altar and have not made their First Communion. In some Churches, a blessing is imparted to non-Catholics who approach the altar at Communion time. In this regard, some responses from Asia suggest finding some gesture at Communion time towards non-Christians to make them feel more a part of the liturgical community.

It is possible that Pope Benedict will take up the subject in his Post-Synodal Exhortation, which should be released within a year or so. If he does take it up (and I’m not saying that he will) then my guess is that he will approve the practice for precisely the reasons that the bishops’ responses spoke positively of it–that it will relieve social pressure to receive Communion for those who are not able to receive, thus resulting in fewer sacrilegious receptions of Communion (something that the synod fathers were very concerned about).

It is also possible, giving how widespread this practice is, that the Congregation for Divine Worship may weigh in on it. If that happens, it could either approve or disapprove of it.

All this is just speculation, though. The issue at hand is what does liturgical law provide now (covered in the bullet points above).

Since this practice does not have current authorization, I’d try to be understanding of your priest. He’s trying to do what he think is right, even if his application on the law of this point may have not taken account of the idea that it is reasonable to pause the distribution of Communion for a just cause.
  1. He also does not bless the smaller children, which I have seen done other places. What is the common (or alternatively, the advisable) practice regarding that?
The same considerations apply. If you have a child being brought up for a blessing and one is denied then either the parents or the parents and the child may go away disappointed, angry, and disaffected, which strike me as legitimate reasons to pause to give a blessing.
  1. If a blessing is allowed and/or proper/encouraged, what would you recommend as supporting evidence to the pastor?
Since this practice is not provided for in liturgical law, there isn’t really any documentation on it, but feel free to show him this blog post as a liturgical law opinion.

THANKS TO JIMMYAKIN
 
It is for recieving communion **NOT BLESSINGS **.

Isnt the thread titled…Questions about going up during Communion for a blessing?
But over and over you say **YOUR NON RECEIVING CHILDREN ARE IN THE LINE! **
so why are your children different in God’s eyes?
Again, are we to leave small children unattended in the pew?
Did you miss the parts where she says her children will walk up with her, but stand to the side and do not receive a blessing?
Not at all the hypocrisy is much like a white elephant in the room. Let me ask is she the only one allowed to choose who goes up, or do you also get to chose for others?
why get a blessing on the communion line when a blessing is given to all shortly afterwards?
A better quesion is who are you to decide?
 
what is this show and tell or Mass?

The giving of blessings during Communion time is a sticky subject. There are several principles to keep in mind:

Since giving a blessing is not the same thing as giving Communion, this represents an interruption of the distribution of Communion.
It is not provided for in the liturgical books, and canon and liturgical law prohibit introducing new elements into the liturgy.
That being said, a priest is empowered to interrupt the liturgy for an adequate cause. For example, if a plane flies over during a prayer or his homily, he can pause for a moment until the plane is past.
It strikes me as reasonable–and it’s certainly within the realm of legitimate liturgical opinion to hold that it is reasonable–for a priest to pause the distribution of Communion in order to administer a blessing if the alternative is sending someone away disappointed and possibly angry and disaffected.
That being said, I would not be encouraging people to go up for such a blessing since it is not provided for in the liturgical books–yet. (See below on this.)
What I have said applies to priests and deacons. It does not necessarily apply to laity who are giving Communion and who are empowered to give blessings in many fewer circumstances than members of the clergy.

Having said that, I suspect that the giving of blessings during Communion time is may receive authorization at some point.

At the recent Synod of Bishops meeting on the Eucharist, the bishops talked about this practice as a way of giving people (including non-Catholics) a way to participate so that they don’t feel pressure to receive Communion if they aren’t able to receive it. We know that because the topic showd up in the Instrumentum laboris for the Synod, which stated:

Some responses [by bishops to a questionnaire sent out to prepare the groundwork for the Synod] mention that priests, while distributing Holy Communion, give a blessing to children or catechumens—both duly pointed out—who approach the altar and have not made their First Communion. In some Churches, a blessing is imparted to non-Catholics who approach the altar at Communion time. In this regard, some responses from Asia suggest finding some gesture at Communion time towards non-Christians to make them feel more a part of the liturgical community.

It is possible that Pope Benedict will take up the subject in his Post-Synodal Exhortation, which should be released within a year or so. If he does take it up (and I’m not saying that he will) then my guess is that he will approve the practice for precisely the reasons that the bishops’ responses spoke positively of it–that it will relieve social pressure to receive Communion for those who are not able to receive, thus resulting in fewer sacrilegious receptions of Communion (something that the synod fathers were very concerned about).

It is also possible, giving how widespread this practice is, that the Congregation for Divine Worship may weigh in on it. If that happens, it could either approve or disapprove of it.

All this is just speculation, though. The issue at hand is what does liturgical law provide now (covered in the bullet points above).

Since this practice does not have current authorization, I’d try to be understanding of your priest. He’s trying to do what he think is right, even if his application on the law of this point may have not taken account of the idea that it is reasonable to pause the distribution of Communion for a just cause.
  1. He also does not bless the smaller children, which I have seen done other places. What is the common (or alternatively, the advisable) practice regarding that?
The same considerations apply. If you have a child being brought up for a blessing and one is denied then either the parents or the parents and the child may go away disappointed, angry, and disaffected, which strike me as legitimate reasons to pause to give a blessing.
  1. If a blessing is allowed and/or proper/encouraged, what would you recommend as supporting evidence to the pastor?
Since this practice is not provided for in liturgical law, there isn’t really any documentation on it, but feel free to show him this blog post as a liturgical law opinion.

THANKS TO JIMMYAKIN
I will be instituted as an acolyte in the next few years…I will be asked on Occaision to help with communion. I will not however bless people and by not blessing people I am doing nothing wrong…I am not going to be forced to participate in somthing I don’t believe in…Similar to hand holding which is not mandatory either.
 
But over and over you say **YOUR NON RECEIVING CHILDREN ARE IN THE LINE! **
so why are your children different in God’s eyes?
My kids DO NOT RECIEVE A BLESSING my dear TR. Isnt that what this thread is about???
Not at all the hypocrisy is much like a white elephant in the room. Let me ask is she the only one allowed to choose who goes up, or do you also get to chose for others?
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
this thread is about getting on a communion line so you can get a “blessing” not Communion.
A better quesion is who are you to decide?
🙂 My Priest decides and he has stated NO BLESSINGS!
But better yet why perform something that is not authorized???😉

1.Since giving a blessing is not the same thing as giving Communion, this represents an interruption of the distribution of Communion. **
2. It is
not provided **for in the liturgical books, and canon and liturgical law **prohibit **introducing new elements into the liturgy.
3.That being said, a priest is **empowered to interrupt **the liturgy for an adequate cause. For example, if a plane flies over during a prayer or his homily, he can pause for a moment until the plane is past.
4. It strikes me as reasonable–and it’s certainly within the realm of legitimate liturgical opinion to hold that it is reasonable–for a priest to pause the distribution of Communion in order to administer a blessing if the alternative is sending someone away disappointed and possibly angry and disaffected.
5. **That being said, I would not be encouraging people to go up for such a blessing since it is not provided for in the liturgical books–yet. (See below on this.) **
6. What I have said applies to priests and deacons. It does not necessarily apply to laity who are giving Communion and who are empowered to give blessings in many fewer circumstances than members of the clergy.
 
I will be instituted as an acolyte in the next few years…I will be asked on Occaision to help with communion. I will not however bless people and by not blessing people I am doing nothing wrong…I am not going to be forced to participate in somthing I don’t believe in…Similar to hand holding which is not mandatory either.
Good for you!👍
 
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