Is it proper to go up for a blessing when not receiving Communion?

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This thread started by the OP asking if it is correct to go recieve a blessing in the communion line. There are two basic types here…those of us who say it is not ( including my priest who is a canon lawyer) and those of us who say it is correct.

Those of us who say it is not correct are labeled as bad Catholics who make people feel unwelcome. I just found out the lady who I didn’t bless the other day was divorced and remarried outside the church…evidently she has been told not to recieve…so now she comes up for a blessing…(which in my case was by a Lay person) I asked my priest this very question last night and he reinforced to me that the practice is unauthorized and I am NOT to give a blessing…he also said the only words I can say are “corpus christi” or " The body of Christ" Nothing more…he said doing so would be a personal innovation.

I guess I will just have to obey my priest and be an evil rule following rigid uncharitable Catholic…
 
WOW … maybe I have experienced a seismic and colossal misunderstanding.
No wonder you took such vindicating joy in your boast when you reported denying the wretch a blessing. I guess it must be tough putting up with all these new fangled customs which also prevented you and your canon lawyer from dragging the unclean woman out for a good old fashioned traditional burning at the stake?
Clearly there was no call for love, or compassion in this situation. Evidently you actually earned the high five and the pat on the back.
Please accept my abject apologies.

But seriously : for those of you who appear to have some difficulty in reading comprehension:
No one said anything describing the Tridentine Mass as hateful or exclusive.
For the record, I agree with Dr. Hahn’s writing describing the Mass as Heaven on earth, regarding both the current Mass and the Tridentine.
Can’t you get it ?
For the record, it is NOT the Pope, no one has said the Pope is disgusting.
It is NOT Tradition, no one has defamed or insulted Tradition.
It is no longer about or whether or not this or that Parrish gives a blessing during Communion. It is clear that it is done in some churches and not done in others.
It is equally clear that the Vatican has not forbidden it.

For the record, I am looking into what our Pope said regarding smaller churchand finding out what he meant. I am not qualified to speak on it, and considering the reading comprehension displayed in some posts on this forum, I do not feel comfortable with what has been claimed as the Pope’s meaning.

For the record, it IS petulant to presume to rebut an argument that no one is making.
And for the record, it is disturbing to perceive that someone would take glee in denying a blessing to even the worst of sinners. That is what I am writing about.

I too am trained as EMHC, and it is correct that we may say only" the body of Christ" or “the blood of Christ” when we are performing our humble task. But I was not trained to boast of denying blessings nor was I trained to give or receive a high five over it.
That someone can not receive Christ is a matter for sorrow, love and compassion. It is not something to rejoice over.
Must I be so blunt?
It was the glee over it, the rejoicing in it and the congratulation over it that some of us find extraordinarily unworthy of Christ.
 
THANK YOU “SOLID CATHOLIC”! MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS US WITH POSTS SUCH AS YOURS.

:gopray2: :grouphug:
 
Unless a bishop talks about the matter in public, I have no idea what his reasoning is. In such a case, for me to suggest his possible reasoning would be speculation.

However, we’re not blind, and we don’t check our intelligence in the narthex. We can only judge by the actions which we observe.
My intelligence says to not judge until I know all the facts.
 
Again, to restate this whole thing:
  1. EMHCs are not the bless parishioners. That’s what my “high five” was for. (and I knew you were talking about me. Just name names, it makes it easier) I was acknowledging that he upheld what we are to do. And he was backed by his priest. Thus, he upheld what we are to do, and what we have been trained to do. Perhaps, however, his parish priest may want to put something in the bulletin regarding those not receiving, or say something before Mass so such an incident does not happen again.
  2. Those not receiving are to partake in Spiritual Communion (which has been posted numerous times), and not go up for Communion, or to have a blessing. The instructions regarding going up for Communion have also been given. They can be viewed at anytime in the front of the misselette.
  3. Yes, SC- I will acknowledge that I was uncharitable. I apologize for it. However, these are the instructions that we, as the Faithful, have been given, and we should follow them as such. Just because it has been done in the past does not mean that it should be perpetuated in the future.
 
  1. Yes, SC- I will acknowledge that I was uncharitable. I apologize for it. However, these are the instructions that we, as the Faithful, have been given, and we should follow them as such. Just because it has been done in the past does not mean that it should be perpetuated in the future.
God Bless you :grouphug: PATIENCEANDLOVE!
 
WOW … maybe I have experienced a seismic and colossal misunderstanding.
No wonder you took such vindicating joy in your boast when you reported denying the wretch a blessing.
I am the person that didn’t bless the individual and I have talked to her about it. Could you please point out my boasting of the situation.

New fangled tradtions? You mean the stuff people make up on a whim to tickle their own personal fancies?

Gee we must all be educated liturgists to have freedom to manipulate the Mass of the faithful…ie:
 
I am the person that didn’t bless the individual and I have talked to her about it. Could you please point out my boasting of the situation.

New fangled tradtions? You mean the stuff people make up on a whim to tickle their own personal fancies?

Gee we must all be educated liturgists to have freedom to manipulate the Mass of the faithful…ie:
How was talking to her? What did you say to her? Was it “all good” after the talk?
 
How was talking to her? What did you say to her? Was it “all good” after the talk?
I told her Sorry…I didn’ know what to do…we were instructed by Fr that blessings cannot be done in the communion line…she just said “ooohhhhh’” and giggled then changed the subject to somthing else…we finished coffee and rolls talking about the Knights of Columbus feather parties over the past few years.

Being the cold hearted mean spirited person that I am…
 
I told her Sorry…I didn’ know what to do…we were instructed by Fr that blessings cannot be done in the communion line…she just said “ooohhhhh’” and giggled then changed the subject to somthing else…we finished coffee and rolls talking about the Knights of Columbus feather parties over the past few years.

Being the cold hearted mean spirited person that I am…
I think you’re lovely 👍
 
I am the person that didn’t bless the individual and I have talked to her about it. Could you please point out my boasting of the situation.

New fangled tradtions? You mean the stuff people make up on a whim to tickle their own personal fancies?

Gee we must all be educated liturgists to have freedom to manipulate the Mass of the faithful…ie:
Yes how did it go when you spoke with her?
Did she accuse you of small mindedness or putting ceremony before the teachings of Jesus or perhaps just being cruel?
Where you accused of making a mockery of the faith??

Never mind Thurifer…you posted your reply as I posted my questions…no need to reply to this post.😊
 
I told her Sorry…I didn’ know what to do…we were instructed by Fr that blessings cannot be done in the communion line…she just said “ooohhhhh’” and giggled then changed the subject to somthing else…we finished coffee and rolls talking about the Knights of Columbus feather parties over the past few years.

Being the cold hearted mean spirited person that I am…
God Bless you Thurifer!
 
I’m still praying for all who are posting on this thread with hateful or hurtful words.

Before any of you post again here, consider what you have said. Go back and read all of your posts again. They are awful.

How many people have already read this stuff and turned away from the Catholic faith? Just 1 would be too many.

Christs died and was resurrected for all of us. Not just those of us who are fortunate enough to be Catholic.

No matter what Christ was doing, or where he was going, he always made time for any who would ask for his blessing.

It seems the posts here have made a mockery of him. I feel so very sad for the people who have come to this forum to learn more about Christ. What on earth are you people doing?
God bless you! 👍
 
I told her Sorry…I didn’ know what to do…we were instructed by Fr that blessings cannot be done in the communion line…she just said “ooohhhhh’” and giggled then changed the subject to somthing else…we finished coffee and rolls talking about the Knights of Columbus feather parties over the past few years.

Being the cold hearted mean spirited person that I am…
I’m glad you talked with her. That was the right thing to do. May I suggest that if a similar situation presents itself in the future that you try to handle it differently. Perhaps you could politely lean in …whisper in their ear and say…I’m sorry dear, but I can’t give you a blessing. This way they don’t walk away embarrassed and you don’t look like a cold hearted mean spirited person. Then approach them later and respectfully explain why so they have a firm understanding of what is allowed and what isn’t.

This is what some of us have been trying to say, but to no avail. Our many attempts to do so have been met with more hostility and have been given a litany of rules over and over and over again. Sometimes being “right” isn’t the most important thing. But you can still uphold what you have been told to do and still demonstrate tactfulness and compassion to your fellow man or woman. I don’t know how many ways this can be said.

I don’t believe we are asking too much here. I didn’t see anybody post about needing their “fantasies tickled”, but if that’s what you call showing compassion and a little respect to your fellow human being then I am so guilty of “tickling my fantasies.”
 
I’m glad you talked with her. That was the right thing to do. May I suggest that if a similar situation presents itself in the future that you try to handle it differently. Perhaps you could politely lean in …whisper in their ear and say…I’m sorry dear, but I can’t give you a blessing. This way they don’t walk away embarrassed and you don’t look like a cold hearted mean spirited person. Then approach them later and respectfully explain why so they have a firm understanding of what is allowed and what isn’t.

This is what some of us have been trying to say, but to no avail. Our many attempts to do so have been met with more hostility and have been given a litany of rules over and over and over again. Sometimes being “right” isn’t the most important thing. But you can still uphold what you have been told to do and still demonstrate tactfulness and compassion to your fellow man or woman. I don’t know how many ways this can be said.

I don’t believe we are asking too much here. I didn’t see anybody post about needing their “fantasies tickled”, but if that’s what you call showing compassion and a little respect to your fellow human being then I am so guilty of “tickling my fantasies.”
Ok…I will take your very good advice…but heres the deal…in order for you to tell me to handle it differently you have to have known what went down at Mass… have you ever distributed the host at Mass?..If you have you know what I am talking about…but it is a VERY brisk event…dozens and dozens of people come up …" the body of Christ…the body of Christ…the body of Christ…the body of Christ…etc. etc. etc. " then you develop an wonderful rhythm…then… BOOOOM! Uh OHH!! COnfused confused confused… Pause pause…I froze OK I have handed out the host for years and never had this happen…It was a pause I collected myself and the person moved on…
 
A Priest Writes

I offer my reasons as I have them to date.

(1) The teleological answer: Quite simply, the line for the distribution of Holy Communion is precisely for that, and that only. It is not the intent of the ritual that it be a line for other things, however worthwhile they may be in their own right.

(2) The theological answer: The Church teaches the Holy Eucharist is “the source and summit of the Christian life” (Const. on the Church, 11). If asked, most of us would easily point to the consecration as the most important part of the Holy Mass. If we thought a bit more, I think we would naturally extend that to also include the reception of Holy Communion (not because the validity of the Holy Eucharist depends upon its reception, but because the Holy Eucharist is ordered toward reception). In any event, worthy reception of the Holy Eucharist is the most perfect form of participation in the Sacred Liturgy. With that in mind, at the precise moment when the climax of the Holy Mass is reached, when we arrive at that to which the whole Mass is directed and from which it flows, the reception of Holy Communion is replaced with a blessing? As if anyone’s blessing, even a priest’s, could possibly take the place of reception of the Sacrament?

(3) The liturgical answer: The Fathers of Vatican II describe the Sacred Liturgy as “the summit toward which the activity of the Church is directed; it is also the font from which all her power flows” (Const. on the Sacred Liturgy, 10). Because of this, the Church closely regulates the Sacred Liturgy. It is not the private or local property of anyone, not even a bishop or priest. It is the common patrimony of the Universal Church. It should come as no surprise, then, that the Church establishes rubrics that direct the sacred action proper to each participant in the Sacred Liturgy. The rubrics surrounding the Holy Eucharist and the various rites for its adoration (note especially how Benediction is given by a cleric with veiled hands, and the rubrics governing Exposition and Adoration when immediately following the Holy Mass) make it clear that a cleric is not to give “his” blessing in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament exposed. This does not, I know, automatically exclude the blessing of children. However, and though I would not be in agreement with what follows, it would at least be more liturgically consistent to give a Benediction to non-communicants, since the Blessed Sacrament is exposed at that point of the Holy Mass. (Notice how attention to this would also clarify the awkward practice of extraordinary ministers giving blessings with hands, as does a cleric. Since a cleric is not to do that when the Blessed Sacrament is exposed, certainly neither should a lay person.) In addition, the priest’s blessing upon the people is specifically situated at the end of the Mass, not during Holy Communion. Furthermore, the implementation of Vatican II can be said to be marked by a simplification of rites. Numerous signs of the Cross were removed from the Holy Mass. Couldn’t it be said, then, that the multiplication of blessings during Holy Communion is contrary to the direction of the liturgical renewal we have been given? Finally, this practice is yet another unintended change of the Sacred Liturgy. Though perhaps minute, it seems to be another manifestation of a foreign attitude that seeks to co-opt the Sacred Liturgy, making it the production of the local community, rather than a font of grace received from beyond ourselves.
 
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(4) The pastoral answer: (a) Dispensing blessings during Holy Communion promotes, I believe, the false idea that “everyone gets something,” perhaps even going so far as to promote more frequent unworthy reception of the Sacrament by people who feel compelled to simply come forward in the Holy Communion line, regardless of their state of soul, because everyone else is. This is especially the case when we are blessed to have non-Catholic visitors who are ignorant of the Holy Eucharist and unaware of how to alert that they should receive only a blessing. (b) As a minister I find the practice confusing. I am not a good judge of age, even less so when trying to focus on my duties at the Holy Mass. It happens often that the sign requesting a blessing (hands folded over chest) is not followed, leaving me unsure why the person stands before me. This is especially noted in the case of older children and adults, who by appearance certainly could be old enough to receive, but who have not yet made First Holy Communion. (c) It seems to me there is value in waiting, praying, and preparing for something. This corresponds to the virtue of patience, something we are rapidly loosing all vestige of in society. Being cheated out of the anxious waiting can cheapen the expectation proper to more full participation at Holy Mass.

(5) The historical answer: I realize that the giving of a Benediction (notice, I did not say blessing) at the time of Holy Communion does occupy a place in history, in the Traditional Rite. But, also notice that the giving of the Benediction with the Sacred Host was given to the person receiving the Sacrament, not as a replacement of reception. While reciting the formula for distribution, the cleric would give Benediction with the Sacred Host, which was then placed on the communicant’s tongue.

(6) The asthetical answer: The often fevered attempts of elders, on the approach for Holy Communion, to force small children to place their hands over their chests (and to pretend that they just might stay that way…this time!) is, to put it lightly, very distracting. I doubt it promotes proper focus for the elder who struggles with a child down the entire aisle of church. I know it distracts me.

(7) The analogical answer: I would venture to guess that most of us would find it inappropriate if someone were to present himself in the line for Holy Communion, not for the Sacrament, but to have a Rosary blessed. The priest, despite the sad appearance of many of our modern church structures, is not some sort of “sacral vendor,” dispensing Holy Communion here, blessed medals there, holy cards here, rosaries there. Just as I would refuse to bless a Rosary at that moment of the Holy Mass, so do I refuse to bless a child. Yes, I realize the limitations of this analogy, as all analogies are limited. No, my refusal would have nothing to do with my dislike of the Rosary, just as my refusal has nothing to do with a dislike of children. And, no, my refusal should not be interpreted to mean that blessing rosaries is bad, just as it should not be interpreted that blessing children is bad. That moment of the Holy Mass is, quite simply, not the place for blessing rosaries. Likewise with the blessing of children.

And if all the above fails to appease an offended parent, I am always happy to bless individually any and all children who come to me after Holy Mass, when my hands are not otherwise occupied and when I can even pick them up, and have some time to say a few words to them!
 
Thanks for posting the opinion of a Priest. It was well written.
Good prose. Temperate tone. He argues his case clearly,
intelligently, and logically. I am delighted it was shared with us.
It still seems to me that precisely because the Vatican has declined to forbid the practice, precisely because the American Bishops have declined to forbid the practice, that it has been by intention left to the Bishops and the Priests to handle as they see
fit within each Parrish or Diocese. It still seems to me that by declining to come down one way or the other at this time that the Vatican and Bishops are saying that the practice does not seem to rise to meet the standard of an alteration which is a serious enough abuse to forbid. I am suggesting it has been for now left to
our Priests and our Bishops by intention.
This web site and this forum came to my attention because a
catechumen who was batted around on this forum attends my church. Some of us were concerned that some of the postings on this forum could confuse, side track, harm or hurt additional
catechumens and others interested in our Faith, so we spoke out.
It seems to me that some people including some Priests and Bishops find the practice to be a good thing and that others see the practice as a bad thing. Perhaps we will not have a meeting of the minds there. But I do hope that we can agree that catechumens and others who are trying to learn about our faith should be treated with some forbearance, some compassion and with some patience. I do hope that we will not suggest to catechumens that they should in effect defy their Priests regarding matters that rightly belong to their Priests. I wish to offer an apology to any I have hurt or offended by my own words. As much as I have been disturbed by some of the comments on this site, I have learned and been blessed through the experience of this forum and I value the ardent and devoted love of our Catholic faith that everyone on this forum has demonstrated. May our Lord bless us each and all.
*** May I offer this for an olive branch : 1st John, 4:7-12
 
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