Is it proper to go up for a blessing when not receiving Communion?

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Fathers, thank you for your (name removed by moderator)ut. I appreciate the correction. I did go on and do some reading and the Vatican’s official stance on it is that it is happenning, it can add confusion, but Pope John Paul did it at times. I do not think this is something I will do in the future but I can understand why it has become such a mainstream thing.

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Ed, the problem is that we line up to receive Holy Communion, not a blessing.
Not some people. They line up to recieve a blessing.
There is no such provision in the Roman Missal, let alone the General Instruction of the Roman Missal for this to take place.
There are many things that are not directly spelled out for the Church, thank God.
It is sad that we have this mentality that we need to form a line to receive “something” if we can’t receive “Someone”. It’s like we need to have a substitute. That is wrong.
In my church there is no separate line. Those who wish to recieve a blessing cross their arms across their chest.
As I indicated in my previous post, those who could not receive Holy Communion were (and should be) taught the importance of making a spiritual communion. You stay in your pew and pour your heart out to Jesus.
This can also be done in line, before, and after recieving a blessing.
It was an unfortunate innovation
Why is it unfortunate?
 
I don’t think the church has covered every single issue. At one point in our mass, there is an exit of all the young children to an adjacent hall where they are taught the lessons of the mass in more simple language. I don’t think the church has addressed this either, and again, I see no problem with it.
The problem is that the Church has addressed it. The Church has said over and over again very clearly that no one may add anything to the Liturgy on his own authority. That is precisely how the Church has covered every single issue; by saying that if the Church doesn’t make it part of the Liturgy, neither may anyone else.

It’s not a matter of whether or not you see a problem with it. It’s a matter of whether or not the Church has made it part of the Mass. That’s the problem in modern “liturgy.” People think that they can do whatever they want so long as they think it’s appropriate.

I understand what you’re saying, and not trying to be critical of you, but critical of the mentality that seems to be so widespread in the Church in western culture. When it comes down to it, “I don’t see a problem with it” is the same argument made in favor of abortion. It’s about what “I want” instead of “what’s right” I know that’s not what you’re getting at, but the mentality is the same. It has become about “what I like” instead of “what the Church requires.”
 
I don’t think the church has covered every single issue. At one point in our mass, there is an exit of all the young children to an adjacent hall where they are taught the lessons of the mass in more simple language. I don’t think the church has addressed this either, and again, I see no problem with it.
Actually, Ed, there is a provision that allows for a Children’s Liturgy of the Word apart from the regular congregation. It is permitted, but, with very specific parameters. The Directory for Masses with Children allows this:
Sometimes, moreover, if the place itself and the nature of the community permit, it will be appropriate to celebrate the Liturgy of the Word, including a homily, with the children in a separate, but not too distant, room. Then, before the Eucharistic Liturgy begins, the children are led to the place where the adults have meanwhile celebrated their own Liturgy of the Word.
Thus the Church has that area covered. Now, according to Redemptionis Sacramentum:
[11.] The Mystery of the Eucharist “is too great for anyone to permit himself to treat it according to his own whim, so that its sacredness and its universal ordering would be obscured”.27 On the contrary, anyone who acts thus by giving free rein to his own inclinations, even if he is a Priest, injures the substantial unity of the Roman Rite, which ought to be vigorously preserved,28 and becomes responsible for actions that are in no way consistent with the hunger and thirst for the living God that is experienced by the people today. Nor do such actions serve authentic pastoral care or proper liturgical renewal; instead, they deprive Christ’s faithful of their patrimony and their heritage. For arbitrary actions are not conducive to true renewal,29 but are detrimental to the right of Christ’s faithful to a liturgical celebration that is an expression of the Church’s life in accordance with her tradition and discipline. In the end, they introduce elements of distortion and disharmony into the very celebration of the Eucharist, which is oriented in its own lofty way and by its very nature to signifying and wondrously bringing about the communion of divine life and the unity of the People of God.30 The result is uncertainty in matters of doctrine, perplexity and scandal on the part of the People of God, and, almost as a necessary consequence, vigorous opposition, all of which greatly confuse and sadden many of Christ’s faithful in this age of ours when Christian life is often particularly difficult on account of the inroads of “secularization” as well.31
The sections that I highlighted from this document certainly cover liturgical innovations such as the blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion. As one can see from this and other threads, such action causes confusion among the faithful and results in more harm than good because of poor catechesis and a loss of the Sensus Fidei (Sense of the Faith).
 
so it’s not okay for my local priest to follow JPII’s example?
This is getting silly. No, it’s not OK for a priest to take it upon himself to make changes to the Mass.

JP2 also ordained many bishops, and your local priest should not do that on his own authority either.
 
Actually, Ed, there is a provision that allows for a Children’s Liturgy of the Word apart from the regular congregation. It is permitted, but, with very specific parameters. The Directory for Masses with Children allows this:
Didn’t know that! Cool.
The sections that I highlighted from this document certainly cover liturgical innovations such as the blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion. As one can see from this and other threads, such action causes confusion among the faithful and results in more harm than good because of poor catechesis and a loss of the Sensus Fidei (Sense of the Faith).
What’s the confusion? I don’t really see how this practice fits in with the cautions and dangers in the bit that you quoted.
 
so it’s not okay for my local priest to follow JPII’s example?
Only the Holy Father has that prerogative since he is the Holy See. But, just because one sees something different at a Papal Mass that doesn’t give the rest of us license to do the same.
 
No, it’s not OK for a priest to take it upon himself to make changes to the Mass.
There really is no substantive change.
JP2 also ordained many bishops, and your local priest should not do that on his own authority either.
You know the two are completely unrelated. That’s a bad comparison, just like the comparison with abortion.
 
Didn’t know that! Cool.
What’s the confusion? I don’t really see how this practice fits in with the cautions and dangers in the bit that you quoted.
Once again “I don’t realy see how…” is not the relevant question. Whether you see it or not, whether I see it or not, makes no difference. Only what the Church says should be done in the Mass should be done in the Mass.
 
Once again “I don’t realy see how…” is not the relevant question. Whether you see it or not, whether I see it or not, makes no difference. Only what the Church says should be done in the Mass should be done in the Mass.
And in that regard, if JPII can give blessings during the reception of the eucharist, then so can my priest.
 
Didn’t know that! Cool.

What’s the confusion? I don’t really see how this practice fits in with the cautions and dangers in the bit that you quoted.
Actually, it does. People feel this “need” to stand in line to receive “something” because they can’t receive “Someone” in Holy Communion. We live in a culture that says that we have to get something out of anything we do, including the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Standing up to receive a blessing that is going to be imparted anyway to everyone at the end of Mass doesn’t make sense.

There is no organic precedent for this kind of thing. It just gives people the unfortunate and mistaken notion that if they don’t stand in line to receive “anything” they haven’t participated in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. They do not realize (through not fault of their own, but through poor catechesis) that they are participating in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass by simply being there and praying.

What is wrong with simply remaining in your pew and immersing yourself in prayer? You don’t have to stand up just because everyone else is doing it. You certainly don’t have to feel the need to be a part of the crowd just because you see everyone else standing in line. You can invite Jesus into your heart by staying in prayer. Even the saints advocated this holy and pious practice. No saint nor blessed that I know of ever advocated standing in line to receive a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion. It is not found in any of our liturgical traditions. It is an unfortunate innovation that has crept into the Church and it needs to go.
 
And in that regard, if JPII can give blessings during the reception of the eucharist, then so can my priest.
That’s not your decision to make. Why do you not see this? It is not about what you want, what you feel is right, what you feel should be done, what you feel is a “substantive change”, or anything else about how you personally feel. It’s about what the Church says in regard to the Mass.

The more you drag this on, the more you prove my point about the comparison with abortion–it’s all about “what I want” and the Church will not tell me otherwise.
 
And in that regard, if JPII can give blessings during the reception of the eucharist, then so can my priest.
No. Once again, the Holy Father has a unique prerogative that is granted to him and him alone. This doesn’t apply accross the board to a bishop nor a priest. Furthermore, it is not found in any of the official liturgical books of the Church. If you notice, Pope Benedict has begun doing away with a lot of things that happened occured during Pope John Paul’s reign. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pope John Paul II. However, Pope Benedict has taken measures that have restored a lot of solemnity to the Mass, from replacing the Papal MC to restoring truly sacred music.

Incidentally, if you obseve the Papal Masses of late, Pope Benedict isn’t blessing anyone. In fact, those who receive Holy Communion from him must do so kneeling and on the tongue, which is covered under the norms. That is certainly one thing that your priest can emulate.
 
Because the magesterium says so. It’s that simple. I believe that once in a while a priest gets tongue tied and says something equivalent by accident. I extend that charity to him. I’m just not foolish enough to believe that they all are doing it by accident. Sometimes they get cowboy with it. It’s not proper.

Look at it this way. better not post that. very distracting…sorry.
 
No. Once again, the Holy Father has a unique prerogative that is granted to him and him alone. This doesn’t apply accross the board to a bishop nor a priest. Furthermore, it is not found in any of the official liturgical books of the Church. If you notice, Pope Benedict has begun doing away with a lot of things that happened occured during Pope John Paul’s reign. Don’t get me wrong, I love Pope John Paul II. However, Pope Benedict has taken measures that have restored a lot of solemnity to the Mass, from replacing the Papal MC to restoring truly sacred music…
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