Is it sin to go to a nightclub?

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I have pretty much decided that if my friend mentions again wanting me to go with him and his wife, I will go. I have been pretty down in the dumps and focused on selfish things for about six months now and I think I am beginning to come out of it. I think it will help me to be out among people in order not to go backward.

Yes, I need to pray the Rosary. That is something that I don’t do when I am depressed and focused on myself that I need to do more often. I know that a lot of the music I listen to has bad messages and I want to try to listen to more Christian music.

I am tired of being afraid all the time. I do not think that most of my fears are from God. I finally am starting to feel free from that.

The club I am invited to is NOT a strip joint. It is NOT one of those clubs I hear advertised on the radio that seem to be all about wet T-shirt contests etc. I have been to the clubs website. It is mostly Latin and reggae music they play and they offer salsa dancing lessons. I know the open-mic nights may have a rowdier crowd but my friend said he was impressed with how well-behaved this younger crowd was.

No, I am not going for the purpose of evangelizing. But I have given my friend who invited to this a Father John Corapi CD. He enjoyed it-said FAther was a tough guy like him. No, he did not instantly convert but he listened to it.
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🤷 Why would you go to evangelize? Is that like open mic, only you give a presentation? Sheesh, a nice place is for having fun, and there is nothing wrong with having some good, clean fun. Besides, didn’t St. Francis say we should preach, but only use words if necessary? Your good example and great behavior will be plenty evangelization.

I am glad you are tired of being afraid! You are in your 30s now. You certainly have enough common sense to know about the seamier side of life, and how to use that common sense. It’s not as if you are 17, and sneaking out someplace where you wouldn’t want your parents to know you went.

You go, and have a lovely time!👍 It sounds like fun. I would like to salsa dance better, myself, if I could get my husband to go. And if they have karaoke, see if they have the lyrics and music for “Politcally Uncorrect” and “Happy Girl”.
 
Hello. I would like to thank everybody. I don’t know whether my friends are still going tomorrow night or not. They go most every Friday so I will have a chance to go sometime. I promise that if we don’t go tomorrow night, I will try to say a Rosary while I am sitting home rether than just listening to the radio or surfing the internet. As a poster suggested.

I realize I desperetely need friends who share my faith. One poster asked if there was something at my parish. I used to go to the pro-life meetings at the parish but they are in the evenings. I work noon to eight- thirty PM and everything seems to be in the evenings. The groups that meet in the mornings seem to be made up solely of retirees my parent’s age for obvious reasons.

I can’t continue to throw my life away. I hope to try getting up earlier and attending Mass more during the week. I hope to find an answer.
 
Oh, enlighten me please. I have never heard “Politically Uncorrect” or “Happy Girl”.
 
You sound as if you have a good head on your shoulders, you know what you are getting yourself into, you are an adult, go and have fun. Being Catholic or even Christian does not mean that you cannot have fun, atleast I have never seen that in the Catechism?

I see that you are from the Lou, have fun where ever you go?
 
I have been to nightclubs in STL. None were strip joints. Just dance clubs. Do sinful acts take place? Yes, but you just avoid them and have fun in a Christian way. I will PM you and see if I have been to this place.
 
If you dont go you are throwing away a potentially fun night and a chance to meet your future spouse. I’v noticed as i get older im losing more and more friends, now an oppurtunity to go to a nightclub only comes around once every four months for me. Go there and have as much fun as you possibly can and try your hardest to meet someone, because lonliness is the fuel for depression.
 
chatterbox said:
Oh, enlighten me please. I have never heard “Politically Uncorrect” or “Happy Girl”.
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“Politically Uncorrect” is a Merle Haggard song that Gretchen Wilson recently covered.
cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/wilson-gretchen/politically-uncorrect-16429.html
“Happy Girl” is by Martina McBride:
lyricsfreak.com/m/martina+mcbride/happy+girl_20089677.html
Martina McBride- wonderful person!
martina-mcbride.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martina_McBride
Gretchen is very distant family. She’s had a big struggle, yet saw her dream to be a singer come true.
http://www.gretchenwilson.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gretchen_Wilson
 
Um, I don’t think country music would go over to well at this particular club. It’s definitely not a country type of place.

I do like some country music (among other kinds) and I do know about Gretchen Wilson and I like her song “Redneck Women.” I know Martina Mcbride too I just did not know that particular song.

You know, I am climbing out of a thirty year rut and I am not climbing very far. I am good at writing threads like this and whining and not good at doing things that scare me. A friend of mine wants me to join a young adult pro-life club. This is an older friend (has a daughter almost my age) who is active in Missouri Right to LIfe.I’m terrified. I pretty much have to do something to try to meet people or make friends and it scares me. I tell myself I should wait and go places after I become a better person or look better or whatever and days turn into years. I tell myself I can’t be around other Catholics becuase they won’t approve of me -I’m not high-class enough becuase I work in a nursing home. You have pretty much all told me it is silly.

I have got to promise not to post any more whiny threads until I bite the bullet and do something.
 
chatterbox said:
…You know, I am climbing out of a thirty year rut and I am not climbing very far. I am good at writing threads like this and whining and not good at doing things that scare me. A friend of mine wants me to join a young adult pro-life club. This is an older friend (has a daughter almost my age) who is active in Missouri Right to LIfe.I’m terrified. I pretty much have to do something to try to meet people or make friends and it scares me. I tell myself I should wait and go places after I become a better person or look better or whatever and days turn into years. I tell myself I can’t be around other Catholics becuase they won’t approve of me -I’m not high-class enough becuase I work in a nursing home. You have pretty much all told me it is silly.

I have got to promise not to post any more whiny threads until I bite the bullet and do something.
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Really? You might recall that Mother Teresa worked in a nursing home of sorts. She was a pretty good Catholic I might add. And lots of people wanted to be around her- in fact, TV crews vied for the oppotunity.

I think it’s very admirable of you to work in a nursing home. I certainly couldn’t do it, for the same reason I couldn’t work in a hospital around sick people: I would get angry with the ones who malinger, and cry for the ones who were really bad off. And I just might turn all the old folks loose! And feed them Hershey bars when they should have nutritous food, and start a happy hour, with real booze, and let them smoke if they didn’t have emphysema.
 
I work in food service at the home. I work in a kitchen. No, I don’t think they judge nursing homes as much as they judge the lifestyles of those that work there. And, I admit it gets a little rough the things people say to me and the atmosphere. The language, the sexual comments etc. They are extremely low-pay jobs and there are some troubled people but some nice people too. It is not all bad.

By the way, we have a liqour closet at the home. Residents can have alchohol with doctor’s permission and under supervision. they do have a happy hour every month and it is very carefully supervised. They have non-alchoholic cocktails for those who cannot drink. They can smoke but they have to smoke outside the building and a nurse or aide must be with them. The aide’s love that job-they can have a smoke too when they are outside. Of course this depends on medical conditions and not if they are on oxygen-they would blow the place up-but tabacco is still legal and residents have legal rights.
 
chatterbox said:
A few weeeks ago I had posted a thread on CAF about meeting people, particularly men in my age group (I am female) and I got a lot of feedback that made me think and helped me figure things out. I don’t want to sound like I am bringing up the same points, but I was wondering if it would be an occasion of sin to go to a nightclub with a married couple from my work who have invited me.

I am not at all going to get drunk and probably will not even drink. I am not going hoping to get picked up. I would be going becuase I have been invited and it seems polite to go. A co-worker of mine who is an aspiring recording artist will be performing at this “open-mic” night. And yes, he music has pretty explicit lyrics, but it is not like I have never heard cuss words before.

I never go out anywhere and I think I’m afraid to try to meet other CAtholics. I think they will judje me becuase I don’t have a proffessional job. I’m trying to get over it and get brave enough to try to volunteer in some Catholic organization. I am also afraid to go out to places that are questionable, morally, but when I step back I think that these things are probably not sins in and of themselves and I may be too afraid of doing anything out of my routine.

If I continue this way I will be stuck. Afraid to meet other Catholics + afraid to go out with people from work = not going out at all and staying home every night.

My mother is very against me going but not for the best of reasons and I am an adult. Do not wish to upset her but I am an adult.

I have turned down offers to go before and do not want to do so again
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Thoughts?
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Primarily, we are pilgrims on this earth, and our mission is to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ, seeking God’s will in all things.

Every action of our life is to be for the glory of God, from the mundane, to those that are exciting.

However, whether or not going to a nightclub is objectively sinful or not (and it may well be in this situation), we are also to avoid the sin of scandal, and you may well be sending out confusing messages to those who know you (i.e isn’t she Catholic but still going to nightclubs???).

If God has intended marriage for you, then rest assured you are not compelled to visit ‘places of debauchery’ to find him.

Be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect!

Peace and God Bless!
 
chatterbox said:
A few weeeks ago I had posted a thread on CAF about meeting people, particularly men in my age group (I am female) and I got a lot of feedback that made me think and helped me figure things out. I don’t want to sound like I am bringing up the same points, but I was wondering if it would be an occasion of sin to go to a nightclub with a married couple from my work who have invited me.

I am not at all going to get drunk and probably will not even drink. I am not going hoping to get picked up. I would be going becuase I have been invited and it seems polite to go. A co-worker of mine who is an aspiring recording artist will be performing at this “open-mic” night. And yes, he music has pretty explicit lyrics, but it is not like I have never heard cuss words before.

I never go out anywhere and I think I’m afraid to try to meet other CAtholics. I think they will judje me becuase I don’t have a proffessional job. I’m trying to get over it and get brave enough to try to volunteer in some Catholic organization. I am also afraid to go out to places that are questionable, morally, but when I step back I think that these things are probably not sins in and of themselves and I may be too afraid of doing anything out of my routine.

If I continue this way I will be stuck. Afraid to meet other Catholics + afraid to go out with people from work = not going out at all and staying home every night.

My mother is very against me going but not for the best of reasons and I am an adult. Do not wish to upset her but I am an adult.

I have turned down offers to go before and do not want to do so again
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Thoughts?
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Not a sin and its perfectly ok to go out with some friends.
 
I have kind of decided that I am going to go out the next time I am invited. And I sent an e-mail to the young adult pro-life group-to see about joining. I am more afraid of change than anything else. I spent my entire twenties sitting home every night-not a friend in the world-and I can’t go on like that esp. if I want to get married someday.

I say that I am a CAtholic and deep down I believe and I always will believe but I have trouble practicing my faith as I should. Becuase I don’t know anyone who I can socialize with who shares my beliefs. I think that would help. But I am scared. So I just take baby steps and I am almost always a nervous wreck and almost always unhappy. I make people around me unhappy.

I tell myself I will never meet a nice man becuase I work at a low-paying job. Others tell me it is not true-men don’t care about that in women etc. But I see only evidence that it is true. AMong the women I work with I see some girls like me-who never have dates and never go out anywhere except work. Not putting them down-I am in same boat. Many women at work who have men in thier lives-usually a live-in boyfriend but sometimes a husband have really dysfunctional relationships. Some have a boyfriend who is in jail. Some have a live-in boyfriend who doesn’t work and doesn’t want to look for job. Not critizing, they grew up in difficult circumstances and that is all they know. But I don’t know girls at work in happy relationships which leads me to believe that nice church-going men will not be attracted to a women that works in a nursing home. Becuase I don’t see that that ever occurs. I am being too down on Catholic men by assuming they will judge me. Honest answers, please.
 
Magicsilence said:
Primarily, we are pilgrims on this earth, and our mission is to follow in the steps of Jesus Christ, seeking God’s will in all things.

Every action of our life is to be for the glory of God, from the mundane, to those that are exciting.

However, whether or not going to a nightclub is objectively sinful or not (and it may well be in this situation), we are also to avoid the sin of scandal, and you may well be sending out confusing messages to those who know you (i.e isn’t she Catholic but still going to nightclubs???).
If God has intended marriage for you, then rest assured you are not compelled to visit ‘places of debauchery’ to find him.

Be perfect as our Father in heaven is perfect!

Peace and God Bless!
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And how will they know she is at a nightclub…unless “they” are there too? I doubt the OP is going there to meet men. It did not appear that it was her intent.

And who gives a hoot if the busybodies have nothing better to do…most of them are in bed by nine anyway. 😃
 
It can be an occasion of sin, but there are two things I want to mention:
  1. BE VERY CAREFUL for two reasons:
a) In your other thread, you mentioned that some coworkers wanted to get you drunk. Is couple part of that group? If so, can you trust them? I probably wouldn’t.
b) Even if you drink non-alcoholic beverages, be careful so that somebody doesn’t slip a date-rape drug into your drink.
  1. Even if you are careful, there is still concern about the issue of scandal for supporting profanity-laden entertainment. You may not be able to do anything about what others say at work, but whether you attend ot not can either contribute to his ratings or not contribute to it.
 
chatterbox said:
I work in food service at the home. I work in a kitchen. No, I don’t think they judge nursing homes as much as they judge the lifestyles of those that work there. And, I admit it gets a little rough the things people say to me and the atmosphere. The language, the sexual comments etc. They are extremely low-pay jobs and there are some troubled people but some nice people too. It is not all bad.
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Well, people need to be fed for sure! How would you like to be old and not have a kitchen? I started my life feeding people, in part time jobs and in the Navy. As for the other people who work there, they are not you.
chatterbox said:
By the way, we have a liqour closet at the home. Residents can have alchohol with doctor’s permission and under supervision. they do have a happy hour every month and it is very carefully supervised. They have non-alchoholic cocktails for those who cannot drink. They can smoke but they have to smoke outside the building and a nurse or aide must be with them. The aide’s love that job-they can have a smoke too when they are outside. Of course this depends on medical conditions and not if they are on oxygen-they would blow the place up-but tabacco is still legal and residents have legal rights.
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Cool. I shall remember all this in 30 or 40 years!
 
I sure dont’ think that it is a sin.

Ironically, I would always think that a club was the least of the places to find a significant other… My DH and I met at one and our marriage has been wonderful!
 
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