Right, and typically, it’s understood that the food bank only expects those who have difficultly securing food on their own to frequent their establishment. But now adjust the analogy to where you have a food bank that not only supplies your basic food needs, but treats every comer to a five-star all-expenses paid dining experience at an expensive establishment. This is something that the typical working person can’t afford regularly, and way over and above solving the situation of food insecurity. Then they say they only expect you to take advantage of it if you can’t eat on your own… However, the food bank is obviously not directing its resources simply to address hunger any more. The incentives are messed up, but that reflects more on the food banks management, than on those that go there.
Same here, but our gov’t apparently doesn’t operate with limited resources… therefore I don’t know what I would do if I had to decide whether to take the CARES subsidy or a pay cut to work.
I didn’t mean a little bit of money. I meant when you give someone a normal pay check’s worth on a normal basis.
That is still a “little bit” compared to what that person could make with an MBA or a professional degree. One can always want more. That is why the claim that if you give someone money (even equivalent to a normal low-wage regular paycheck) it is not true that they will just sit back and do nothing to better themselves.LeafByNiggle:
I didn’t mean a little bit of money. I meant when you give someone a normal pay check’s worth on a normal basis.
I never said that everyone will sit back and do nothing. But enough will to cause damage to the economic health over time.
Yes and yes. Look at the enclosure movement.
Not necessarily. There are examples of people given a UBI who went on to further their education and become much more productive than they would have been without that help.
I’m not talking about socialism. Also, PragerU!!! But mostly, I’m not talking about socialism.
robber barons were surely selfish.
I know. That’s why I said “I never said that everyone will sit back and do nothing.”
And I was talking about socialism. I was not talking about welfare programs, which I support.
You know who turned me onto PragerU? Patrick Madrid. He is always saying good things about them, so I started listening to their 5 minute videos. Lots of good info there. I dare anyone to listen to them with an open mind. If they don’t change your mind, you will at least have a better idea re where conservatives are coming from.
But it appears that you don’t really want to understand. If you did, then you would have paid attention to the many posts outlining the various scenarios where your apparent assumptions of laziness and/or greed simply are not accurate or even slightly justified. There is no one size fits all answer to any of this.
Inference based on tone. Hence the use of “apparent”.
I don’t remember seeing anyone saying or implying that. Nor do I see anyone saying or implying that it is not possible for anyone to be gaming the system for greed, just that taking the benefit even if there is a job available (and without anyone else knowing if that job is suitable for the person’s circumstances) is not automatically sinful. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially since I cannot know their particular circumstances.