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[space_ghost]

Here is the senario…

The deacon fills the gobletts and chalice with wine, there is wine left in the carafe and he places the carafe over on the creedence table away from the alter… during communion an extraordinary minister runs out of the Blood of Christ… he goes to the creedence table and fills his cup with the wine in the carafe… My question… is it wine or the Blood of Christ… since it was not on the alter at the time of consecration (even though in the sanctuary)
was it consecrated too?

 

[Deacon_Ed]

The answer is – it depends on the intention of the priest. If he intends to consecrate that which is on the credence table then it is consecrated. However, the normal intention is to consecrate what’s on the altar so, in general, the answer is no, it’s not consecrated and should not be used.

Deacon Ed

 

[space_ghost]

Deacon Ed:

The answer is – it depends on the intention of the priest. If he intends to consecrate that which is on the credence table then it is consecrated. However, the normal intention is to consecrate what’s on the altar so, in general, the answer is no, it’s not consecrated and should not be used.

Deacon Ed

Thankyou sir!

 

[misericordie]

space ghost:

Here is the senario…

The deacon fills the gobletts and chalice with wine, there is wine left in the carafe and he places the carafe over on the creedence table away from the alter… during communion an extraordinary minister runs out of the Blood of Christ… he goes to the creedence table and fills his cup with the wine in the carafe… My question… is it wine or the Blood of Christ… since it was not on the alter at the time of consecration (even though in the sanctuary)
was it consecrated too?

Some of these Deacons need to keep up to date in their formation. Most are still stuck in the late 1960’s and worse 1970’s when most of their formation consisted in learning the song (not hymn) “Kumbayah my lord.” Seems like the one of your example here is one of those. Deacon!! Please: READ!! The Latest documents out of ROME: Redemptionis Sacramentum by Cardinal Arinze’. By the way, PLEASE don’t say “the cup” (it is protestant) it is called: “CHALICE.”

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

space ghost:

Here is the senario…

The deacon fills the gobletts and chalice with wine, there is wine left in the carafe and he places the carafe over on the creedence table away from the alter… during communion an extraordinary minister runs out of the Blood of Christ… he goes to the creedence table and fills his cup with the wine in the carafe… My question… is it wine or the Blood of Christ… since it was not on the alter at the time of consecration (even though in the sanctuary)
was it consecrated too?

More than likely it is NOT the Blood of Christ. There is no reason that it could not have been on the corporal if the priest intended to Consecrate it. This action in itself is illicit because all items intended to be consecrated should be on the Corporal to avoid such confusion. There are very rare exceptions.

 

[Deacon_Tony560]

Don’t be too quick to blame the deacon. The deacon can not be everywhere. In my parish there is just one deacon. I try to instruct those who assist, but can not watch them every minute. I once caught someone trying to mix consecrated hosts with non-consecrated ones. We do the best we can.

God bless,
Deacon Tony SFO

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Deacon Tony560:

Don’t be too quick to blame the deacon. The deacon can not be everywhere. In my parish there is just one deacon. I try to instruct those who assist, but can not watch them every minute. I once caught someone trying to mix consecrated hosts with non-consecrated ones. We do the best we can.

God bless,
Deacon Tony SFO

I would suggest that a server or other person take the “pitcher” or whatever you want to call it out of the area altogether, maybe back into the sacristy. That way EMHC cannot make this mistake.