Is it time for federal garnishing of wages for unmarried men?

[JimG]

:angel1:Thank you for this very interesting and important topic that affects so many children.

On a closely related issue, I believe many states now have written into law that it is a federal offense to cross the border into another state in order to avoid court-designated child support in the state where one’s child (and/or the other parent) lives. In other words, years ago, deadbeat dads (or moms, to be fair here,) would cross the state line to avoid paying, thus making it harder for judges to enforce the court -ordered support.

Children suffer terribly when parents don’t step up to the plate, ways that affect the child for many years, such as malnutrition, social behavior, moral education, psychological health, and spiritual growth. Poverty and neglect of the youngest in society is heartbreaking. I’m glad you brought up a topic about parental responsibility.

As to tax issues, I’ll read the opinions here and join in the discussion on that. I do wish that somehow our country and others around the world could find a way so that children did not have to suffer for their parent’s dis-regard. As followers of Christ, we Catholics have a special concern for anyone suffering, and it is especially heartbreaking whenever children are in distress of any kind. We, and all people of good faith, can do more to alleviate suffering.

Kathryn Ann.
:harp::grouphug:
::knight1::flowers:

I was just thinking about this today, reading two separate newspaper stories involving children who had been abused or killed by a live-in boyfriend or abused by an unmarried step-parent. Now, I haven’t searched for any statistics on this, but just from anecodotes and observation, it seems to me that the rise of unmarried or cohabiting households has just been bad for children. They live in a situation in which one or both parents have decided that raising children is secondary to someone else’s desires.

 

[Kathryn_Ann]

I was just thinking about this today, reading two separate newspaper stories involving children who had been abused or killed by a live-in boyfriend or abused by an unmarried step-parent. Now, I haven’t searched for any statistics on this, but just from anecodotes and observation, it seems to me that the rise of unmarried or cohabiting households has just been bad for children. They live in a situation in which one or both parents have decided that raising children is secondary to someone else’s desires.

:clapping:Indeed. And as compassionate people, we all can help when people “fall through the cracks.” We do our best to steer our children and grown children towards loving relationships and to live lives of integrity. But so many in the world are not raised in loving homes and the discordance continues to the next generation to the next.

Co-habitation seems to be a trend for a great number of engaged coupes as well, months or years before a wedding date is set. I have heard statistics on this, that the chances for divorce are at least equally as high in cases where people “try each other out” first, versus those who wait to enter a full relationship until after marriage. I am old fashioned enough (a good thing) to agree that Catholic teaching on purity is the ideal.

I also know people who are very fine, who have entered marriages with all good intent, but their partners have changed dramatically in their beliefs and become abusive, where it is impossible for the parents to co-exist even in what appeared to be a perfect marriage. Sadly, after years of psychological abuse or distress, divorce can occur. All is not hopeless though! Love moves in wherever it is most needed. Christ yearns to heal the breech even when we think things impossible. Grandparents, siblings, extended family must move quickly to help parents and children involved. Compassion must rule here, especially when things go wrong.

For people in the most dire circumstances, there is also help:
In honoring The Blessed Virgin Mary, Our Holy Mother, we can support shelters that are there for the safety of families in crisis (sometimes father, mother and children in families where jobs have been lost, homeless families living on the street and in cars.) There are shelters for single mothers and their children, homeless veterans that we visit to encourage them towards positive outcomes. Parental training, help towards getting GED’s, job skills training, but most of all, raising all children involved in the best environment possible when the family is able to go out again “on its own.” I hope no struggling family is ever truly alone. Shelters often offer many services, but they need our help.

Although we all strive to instill ideals in our own children, so that they will grow up to raise children in a loving, two- parent environment, there are so many wives and mothers who have been emotionally and physically abused and where divorce, possibly annulment may follow. Rather than judge individuals, our compassion moves us to show them that with Christ, every person is whole and worthy of dignity.

I appreciate your comments because they are not judgemental but simply raise awareness. Yes, we hope so much that our children live out their lives surrounded by love. When we see someone along the way, some within our extended family who are hurting, we can reach out in compassion, knowing sometimes people of great personal integrity are going through confusing, distressing times.*** And we must ask ourselves, who is our family? ***Christ shows us the way as His Blessed Mother does: All, all are in our human, imperfect family. Just as I am so imperfect, I have a common bond with everyone who is blessed or distressed! Jesus said “I call not the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” Who but those in distress need His love and ours more then they? And so we give them His love through our acts of kindness. You are good to remind us to look beyond ourselves. :flowers::yyeess::kiss4you:
:angel1:

 

[Pugnax]

Married taxpayers are busy paying for 18 years of health, education, and welfare of their own kids (22 years if parents pay for college), but the govt forces married taxpayers to also pay for 18 years of health, education, and welfare of for unmarried men’s kids. How is that social justice? Weak men who mostly want sex should not force the responsibility onto taxpayers when they refuse to marry and take financial responsibility for their kids. A federal garnshing of wages would help solve the injustice. The number of kids born to unmarried mothers has risen from 10% a few decades ago to 50% today. If it was a samll percent, then it would be bearable, but it’s not. Why should one half of the population be forced to take a financial responsibility for both halves?

It would sure cut down on many problems. Some people are intentionally circumventing and cheating the system.

This is the most ignorant, mean spirited comment. I don’t even know what to say. Jesus taught love and compassion for all men. All I see here is hatred and ignorance. I can’t believe you just said that unmarried men with kids are just people who mostly want sex…do you have any facts to back that up sir…or are you just pulling that out of thin air. Disgusting

 

[ManOnFire]

I have a Take No Prisoners attitude when it comes to outing fathers. I also strongly believe that women absolutely have The Power to turn that all around, but they, also, are enablers: (1) They’re providing uncommitted, irresponsible, unaccountable sex, which suits young, randy men just fine; (2) They cooperate with the whole anonymity thing; when they get pregnant, suddenly it’s their problem alone. Really? There are millions of Marys of Nazreth walking around the modern world, all with children conceived by The Holy Spirit? Hmm. Who knew?

And big govt. and the media are happy to get more dependents.

 

[ManOnFire]

:angel1:Thank you for this very interesting and important topic that affects so many children.

On a closely related issue, I believe many states now have written into law that it is a federal offense to cross the border into another state in order to avoid court-designated child support in the state where one’s child (and/or the other parent) lives. In other words, years ago, deadbeat dads (or moms, to be fair here,) would cross the state line to avoid paying, thus making it harder for judges to enforce the court -ordered support.

Children suffer terribly when parents don’t step up to the plate, ways that affect the child for many years, such as malnutrition, social behavior, moral education, psychological health, and spiritual growth. Poverty and neglect of the youngest in society is heartbreaking. I’m glad you brought up a topic about parental responsibility.

As to tax issues, I’ll read the opinions here and join in the discussion on that. I do wish that somehow our country and others around the world could find a way so that children did not have to suffer for their parent’s dis-regard. As followers of Christ, we Catholics have a special concern for anyone suffering, and it is especially heartbreaking whenever children are in distress of any kind. We, and all people of good faith, can do more to alleviate suffering.

Kathryn Ann.
:harp::grouphug:
::knight1::flowers:

The sad part is that the suffering is not due to a lack of resources here in the U.S. Men don’t run from women whom they truly love. Love of self is the reason to run. The liberal media promotes feelgoodism for the self. Then we pretend to be shocked when selfish men run. They don’t really want to fix dependency. It’s all part of the plan to create MORE dependency.

No reasonable person would expect the majority of downtrodden children to be able to climb the ladder of success while their life’s experience amounts to being exposed to so much neanderthalic sex, drugs, and violence in the liberal media because the single mom tires from the task of raising kids herself, coupled with the role model of a selfish dad who ran. What else would young boys know? Why wouldn’t young girls expect the same? Don’t people deserve better than that? Then we pretend to be shocked that single parenthood and suffering are only growing with the liberal media’s messages to pursue selfish feelgoodism. Time to turn off the toxic messages which are creating masses of dependents.

 

[ManOnFire]

This is the most ignorant, mean spirited comment. I don’t even know what to say. Jesus taught love and compassion for all men. All I see here is hatred and ignorance. I can’t believe you just said that unmarried men with kids are just people who mostly want sex…do you have any facts to back that up sir…or are you just pulling that out of thin air. Disgusting

Open-minded people who merely consider alternative views are not in the least bit bothered by the Truth. Open-minded people SEEK the truth ahead of feelings. That’s where much of society is going wrong. Much of society is living by feelings of knee-kerk reactions to any negative comments rather than proper discernment of the truth. Choosing feelings ahead of facts is actually closed-mindedness because it ignores the truth, but people don’t want to believe it since the liberal media has already pronounced them to be enlightened and correct. Ignoring the truth makes people ignorant.

If unmarried men are together with their woman and kids, then that certainly helps, but there’s still no equality nor social justice by forcing taxpayers to pay for 22 years of health, education, and welfare for his kids when I’m forced to struggle to pay for 22 years of health, education, and welfare of BOTH mine AND his. Why is he not forced to struggle? But I’m forced to struggle to pay for both mine AND his? How is that justice and equality???

 

[prosecutor]

All states have a child support program that is dedicated to establishing paternity, support orders and then enforcing those orders. It is mandated under federal law. Also, if a mother is receiving Medicaid or TANF, she is required to cooperate with the child support agency or she could lose her benefits. The State can even keep some of the money to reimburse tax payers for past welfare benefits given out if the father was not supporting his child.

As for the people complaining about taxes for children of unmarried mothers in addition to their own, I don’t even have children and yet my taxes go for things like education. It is important for society to ensure that all children have things like education, housing and proper nutrition. Do we really want to have a nation of sickly, ignorant people just because of the choices their parents made?

 

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