Is it time to give people the option of having electrodes implanted into the pleasure centers of their brains?

[ManOnFire]

Who are these regressives? You make it sound like they are very powerful and no one can simply walk away from their promotions.

Entertainment Media. The media has caused people to follow emotion rather than Truth. There are too many irrational people making irrational demands based on emotion and passion. They have successfully used emotional entertainment to transfer the public’s values into the unelected media’s values, and this has reduced us away from depth and into shallow amusements, but many love it as long as it keeps them entertained in the short term. Once the entertainment wears off, jones for more. Instead, we could have intensity with romanticism and depth. Instead, we get thin pottie talk like big bang. The peculiar thing about Deception is that many don’t want to see it.

 

[StrawberryJam]

Having the pleasure button inserted would be voluntary. There’s no obligation to push it. Are you suggesting that people have no free will to prevent themselves from overdosing on it? Maybe you’re right, but how would anyone know for sure? Is there any other research to indicate what humanity would do if given limitless opportunity for pleasure with no sacrifice involved?

You just told me there are people who are suffering from these regressives you won’t name that force them to do terrible things. I am not understanding how your logic is working today.

 

[StrawberryJam]

Entertainment Media is promoting legalization of illegal drugs? Sorry, I jumped the gun here and assumed you meant illegal drugs. You simply said drugs.
I better ask my priest if it is still okay for me to use Benadryl from time to time. I have been sold a bill of goods by these regressives! Why can’t I be a bit more skeptical on such important matters? I think I have been sold a bill of goods. I will write to my former state senator who became US Senator, um- wait, I can’t. He claims to be a Christian, but I am told he is a Muslim. He won’t help me.After all, I bet he will tell me to stop having a glass of wine with my pasta dinners at Zia’s now. I may even be told to stop eating any Jimmy Dean’s breakfast sausages with pork in them. Then, and only then he will consider helping me if I agree to these things first.
I knew there was a reason to listen to the real behind the scenes information I would only get here. Entertainment Media may even have been responsible for his being President.
I will never support that… wait. I don’t support it as far as I know. I don’t have cable.

But, I am going to complain to this Entertainment Media people now. They must change this because, well- I am easily swayed by their compelling coupons that make me want to sign up so I can waste time on that instead of learning about things that matter in life.

 

[GEddie]

It’s a fun topic. What makes you so sure the brain would be burned out? Does the pleasure we receive from sex burn out the brain? What makes you think it would stop working. Drug overdoses stop the body from functioning. The pleasure doesn’t.

No, it would not shut down your body, however, there is at least the possibility it would damage your brain. Brain cells are not designed to be stimulated continuously; that is why we sleep. The muscles do not need so many hours of stillness; the brain needs those hours wihout using the senses or the memory, to recharge its cells.

Especially in a situation where the pleasure centers are being continuously supercharged with extraneous energy (i.e., from an electrode) there is the chance ISTM that the cells would burn out over time, resulting in a permanent anhedonia. Not a nice outcome! Natural depression is bad enough.

GOD Bless and ICXC NIKA

 

[ManOnFire]

Entertainment Media may even have been responsible for his being President.
But, I am going to complain to this Entertainment Media people now. They must change this because, well- I am easily swayed by their compelling coupons .

Of course they got him in. Otherwise, he was a nobody. When he won in his seat in Chicago in '06, the media fanfare went gaga over his victory. My wife and I simultaneously looked at each other and said “who in the world is this guy. never heard of him.”

The media doesn’t have coupons. People learn the media’s values because of the constant repetition. People can’t help but learn the propaganda unless they carefully discern.

 

[ManOnFire]

No, it would not shut down your body, however, there is at least the possibility it would damage your brain. Brain cells are not designed to be stimulated continuously; that is why we sleep. The muscles do not need so many hours of stillness; the brain needs those hours wihout using the senses or the memory, to recharge its cells.

Especially in a situation where the pleasure centers are being continuously supercharged with extraneous energy (i.e., from an electrode) there is the chance ISTM that the cells would burn out over time, resulting in a permanent anhedonia. Not a nice outcome! Natural depression is bad enough.

GOD Bless and ICXC NIKA

Yes, but we think and use brain cells all day long. And we would still sleep, even if pushing the pleasure button for a good part of the day. Is there any research along the lines of say, brain cells after the exhilaration of riding a roller coaster all day?

 

[StrawberryJam]

No, it would not shut down your body, however, there is at least the possibility it would damage your brain. Brain cells are not designed to be stimulated continuously; that is why we sleep. The muscles do not need so many hours of stillness; the brain needs those hours wihout using the senses or the memory, to recharge its cells.

Especially in a situation where the pleasure centers are being continuously supercharged with extraneous energy (i.e., from an electrode) there is the chance ISTM that the cells would burn out over time, resulting in a permanent anhedonia. Not a nice outcome! Natural depression is bad enough.

GOD Bless and ICXC NIKA

GEddie,

You are the very kind of Catholic that I aspire to be one day.
In my very deepest dreams, I believe it is a possibility I will be one.
I like the way you say it, and I like the way you present it.

I am much more of a bull in a china shop type. Running about, knocking things down unintentionally and generally a bore. The type you cringe at when realizing will be in attendance at the community get togethers for fundraising efforts. You both are working at a goal shared, but realize that there will be some there who are most likely going to yank your chain every darned minute or so. I hear this is what families at Thanksgiving and Christmas endure.
The final outcome of all the complaining about Uncle Bob who drinks too much and offends nearly everyone there, is it would not be the same without him. Without him, everyone would then have to resort to football (US type)

GEddie, I promise you this and everyone here. I am not trying to offend anyone or be the irritating Uncle Bob that no one wants to see let alone hear or be stuck with.

I will always remember the ones who used great skills and tact in expressing themselves so very openly and helpfully to ones like me.

I wish I had with my own real life Uncle Bob. But, I can not now.

He did at least, teach me how to tie my shoes. No one ever cared about that fact. I did.

 

[GEddie]

GEddie,

You are the very kind of Catholic that I aspire to be one day.
In my very deepest dreams, I believe it is a possibility I will be one.
I like the way you say it, and I like the way you present it.

I am much more of a bull in a china shop type.

Thank you mon ami.

Do not worry about the “broken china”. One of the minor things I miss about the university setting is the kind of amicable disagreements that arise there; that is how we gain wisdom. Human minds are like steel sword blades that need to clash together for sparks to be seen.

I will be praying for your conversion!

If there are any questions of the Faith that you can’t go to a priest for, or simply need another mind to spark yours off of, feel free to IM me.

ICXC NIKA!

 

[ManOnFire]

Strawberry, I’ll be honored to be your uncle bob. Unfortunately, I’m a natural.

 

[GEddie]

Yes, but we think and use brain cells all day long.

Sure, but not the same cells continuously. Eye movement, blinking, body motion, changing sounds and smells, etc, assure that the pattern of energization changes. And all the cells share a fixed amount of energy with the rest of the body; limited by the breath in the lungs, sugar in the blood, etc. When one cell cluster is stimulated, others slow down.

The Button will deliver extraneous energy to the same cells, almost continuously, except while asleep. Not in any sense normal usage.

And we would still sleep, even if pushing the pleasure button for a good part of the day. Is there any research along the lines of say, brain cells after the exhilaration of riding a roller coaster all day?

Even then the stimulation is interrupted when it comes to a stop, and for such things as waiting in line, bathroom breaks, food and drinks, etc. And one day wouldn’t do the damage, anyhow.

God Bless and ICXC NIKA