Is it true that one must be of a particular race to join a particular church

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@Volodymyr 988:

Have the Ukrainian Catholic parishes that you have been to had the Divine Liturgy in English or Ukrainian or Church Slavonic?
 
The Ruthenian (in Indy) was all in English. The Ruthenian Mission in STL was in English and the UGCC in STL was half in Ukrainian and half in English (but you never knew when the priest would switch!:rotfl: )

It made for some confusion on my part:

“Hospodi Pomyluj!”

" Lord have mercy!"

It kept switching! :bigyikes:
 
That’s funny. I was in Berlin once and I could hardly understand the Turkish cab drivers accented German. :eek: Just reminded me of that. lol.
 
Volodymyr 988, you make Pani Rose 😊 blush

Look whose talk’n for someone that has only ‘dabbled’ in the East, you sure do have a head full of knowledge. :tiphat::rotfl:
 
holdencaulfield said:
I understand. I was just wondering. As it is, I don’t think I would be able to. I only have a couple of Eastern Catholic Churches in my area.
  • 1 Ruthenian Catholic (14 Minutes)
  • 1 Maronite Catholic (24 Minutes)
  • 1 Ukrainian Catholic (23 Minutes)
  • 1 Russian Catholic (Congregation Only) (20 Minutes)
  • 1 Ethiopian Coptic Catholic (Congregation Only) (19 Minutes)
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Wow! Those are *short *Masses! :eek:
 
Pani_Rose said:
I was raised Southern Baptist, my husband was raised Polish Nathional Catholic and went to Roman Catholic schools. We were married in a Methodist church and really didn’t belong anywhere for ten years. Now when we started asking the Lord where to go, we went everywhere to see what they were like Presbyterian, Methodist, Church of Christ, non-denoms - just to visit.

My hubby wanted something like his grandma’s church. I asked him the first time I went to church with his family if they thought you didn’t get enough exercise on a daily basis. I had never stood up, kneeled, and everything else in such a shor time in all my life (well outside of basic training), anyway he loved the ‘t’ traditions of his grandmothers church. A friend who said she would find out for me about this church that didn’t use Latin or English in their Mass, didn’t think it was Polish either since that parish was downtown. She called the next day and said it was a Ruthenian Byzantine Church - they used Slavonic.

Oh my, now I had never heard a Polish name till I went in the Air Force (was raised in rural south) much less words like Ruthenian, Byazantine, or Slavonic. Funny, it was the last time Angie and I ever had time to talk - I guess God gave us the directions he wanted us to have.

So it only took going to St. Josephs Ruthenian Byzantine Church in Toronto Ohio one time and we knew we were home. 👍 Now 22 years later, my husband is a Ruthenian deacon serving in a Melkite Greek Catholic Church in Birmingham Alabama. Suprise! Didn’t know anything about Melkites, much less Arabic, and Middle Eastern. :rotfl:

We have been truly blessed by God to walk with him in ways that we could have never imagined. It just takes saying, “Jesus Jesus, I will go where you want me to go, do what you want me to do, when you want me to do - despite my hesitations.” He says back, “if you hear my voice today, harden not your heart.” (Hebrews 3:7) GOD IS FAITHFUL TO COMPLETE THE WORK HE HAS BEGUN.

Don’t be concerned whether you are or aren’t of a particular nationality, our God is more than able to teach you anything you need to know. God created us all, and loves us all, and his is a giganitc world to explore. Just say YES!
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I’m not helping the topic with this, but this reminds me of when I first went to a Catholic college in the Upper Midwest after being raised in the Upper South. Pretty nearly all the other students were from the urban upper Midwest or the East. I just couldn’t get over my fellow students’ last names! Tongue twisters! Impossible to remember, I thought! German, Polish, Bohemian, Italian, Slovak, Lithuanian, Hungarian names and more! I said something about that once, and some of my fellow students didn’t believe me when I said everybody’s names back home were Brit or Scottish or Welsh or Irish or Scots-Irish…“American” names to me. (Mine’s Norman-Irish) So I brought a phone book from home to school and let them look at it to prove it. They were just amazed that anyplace could exist where everybody’s name is “Smith” or “Jones” or something starting with “Mac” or “Mc” or ending in “ton” or “ly”! A totally abnormal assembly of names to them. It got passed around quite a bit before I got it back. I don’t think it would have seemed any stranger to them had it been printed on mammoth tusk.

Some from the East didn’t believe me when I said I was from the Ozarks. They thought it was a mythical place, like “Dogpatch” or “Mayberry”; a name invented by comedians, not a real place.

Probably the biggest laugh was had when I brought a hometown newspaper to school, in which it was reported that a fellow named Slats James shot a razorback boar in his back yard near an area town named Shell Knob. That one got passed around everywhere.

It amazes me that there is a Melkite parish in Birmingham. But then, it’s a good-sized city, so perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised.
 
Ridgerunner said:
I’m not helping the topic with this, but this reminds me of when I first went to a Catholic college in the Upper Midwest after being raised in the Upper South. Pretty nearly all the other students were from the urban upper Midwest or the East. I just couldn’t get over my fellow students’ last names! Tongue twisters! Impossible to remember, I thought! German, Polish, Bohemian, Italian, Slovak, Lithuanian, Hungarian names and more! I said something about that once, and some of my fellow students didn’t believe me when I said everybody’s names back home were Brit or Scottish or Welsh or Irish or Scots-Irish…“American” names to me. (Mine’s Norman-Irish) So I brought a phone book from home to school and let them look at it to prove it. They were just amazed that anyplace could exist where everybody’s name is “Smith” or “Jones” or something starting with “Mac” or “Mc” or ending in “ton” or “ly”! A totally abnormal assembly of names to them. It got passed around quite a bit before I got it back. I don’t think it would have seemed any stranger to them had it been printed on mammoth tusk.

Some from the East didn’t believe me when I said I was from the Ozarks. They thought it was a mythical place, like “Dogpatch” or “Mayberry”; a name invented by comedians, not a real place.

Probably the biggest laugh was had when I brought a hometown newspaper to school, in which it was reported that a fellow named Slats James shot a razorback boar in his back yard near an area town named Shell Knob. That one got passed around everywhere.

It amazes me that there is a Melkite parish in Birmingham. But then, it’s a good-sized city, so perhaps I shouldn’t be surprised.
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You know Ridgerunner, it truly is amazing. When you grow up in rural areas and come to the big city - well maybe Jethro Bodine was so far off :rotfl:Not that we were him, but just the shock of city life and all the fancy names.

Then tie in faith, well the world truly comes alive. I was searching my ancestry and found on one side of my family they all had been in the Crusades. Well, I guess then, that means I really did come home to the Catholic Church - looks like that is where the family belonged whether they admitted it or not 👍
 
Pani_Rose said:
You know Ridgerunner, it truly is amazing. When you grow up in rural areas and come to the big city - well maybe Jethro Bodine was so far off :rotfl:Not that we were him, but just the shock of city life and all the fancy names.

Then tie in faith, well the world truly comes alive. I was searching my ancestry and found on one side of my family they all had been in the Crusades. Well, I guess then, that means I really did come home to the Catholic Church - looks like that is where the family belonged whether they admitted it or not 👍
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The Crusades! Neat!

Not long ago, my adult son met a young lady who told him that she and her whole family converted to Catholicism from some Protestant group or other fairly recently. My son told her that his family, too, was a family of converts. “From what?” she asked. “From paganism” he responded. “From paganism???” she was thunderstruck. “What kind?”, “From Norse paganism, sometime between 918 A.D.and 1066 A.D. you know, Odin and Thor and all that.”

The young lady appreciated the humor, but was also impressed that a family had kept faithful to the Church that long, notwithstanding that, having converted during that time frame, they were relative “newcomers” to the Church, compared, e.g., to Romans and the Eastern Catholics. I guess, to a former Protestant, that much continuity would, indeed, seem remarkable, just as the Eastern Catholics’ continuity seems remarkable to me.
 
holdencaulfield said:
Wikipedia said it was the Ruthenian Catholic Church, however that one in Chicago doesn’t even look like that.
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And that is why some generalizations are not very useful.

“Latinization” is a term so broadly used, it is hard to even be sure you are on teh same page with people who use it…
 
Ridgerunner said:
The Crusades! Neat!

Not long ago, my adult son met a young lady who told him that she and her whole family converted to Catholicism from some Protestant group or other fairly recently. My son told her that his family, too, was a family of converts. “From what?” she asked. “From paganism” he responded. “From paganism???” she was thunderstruck. “What kind?”, “From Norse paganism, sometime between 918 A.D.and 1066 A.D. you know, Odin and Thor and all that.”

The young lady appreciated the humor, but was also impressed that a family had kept faithful to the Church that long, notwithstanding that, having converted during that time frame, they were relative “newcomers” to the Church, compared, e.g., to Romans and the Eastern Catholics. I guess, to a former Protestant, that much continuity would, indeed, seem remarkable, just as the Eastern Catholics’ continuity seems remarkable to me.
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First draft of Paul’s letter to the Romans: “Hey, n00bs!”
 
And I just have to butt in here to say:

Wow - a 4-page thread with no arguments??? I’m stunned!! 👍
 
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