Is it true that the Catholic church is the true Christian church?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Charmaine8649
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
C

Charmaine8649

Guest
also, Is it wrong for me to feel that protestant churches are very conforming and do not follow their doctrines thoroughly.

I strongly believe in the Catholic faith
 
it is true that the Catholic Church is the only church established by Christ. Christ built the church on the rock of Peter, and the gates of hell will never prevail against it.
 
also, Is it wrong for me to feel that protestant churches are very conforming and do not follow their doctrines thoroughly.

I strongly believe in the Catholic faith
Christ’s Church subsists in the Catholic Church. So the Catholic Church is the true Church, but it doesn’t entirely eliminate the possibility that some protestant churches are Christ’s Church as well and it leaves the possibility that they unite with the Catholic Church.
 
Yes, Jesus built one church. Whether you agree with it or not, doesn’t matter. The best minds through history have worked to preserve the truths and enlightenment of the universal Catholic church. As with all true wisdom, many of the Church’s teachings take a lot of living to understand. Many are “turned off” because they are unwilling to put the effort in to see past the ritual and rules to the deeper truths that only a true spiritual journey can achieve…
 
also, Is it wrong for me to feel that protestant churches are very conforming and do not follow their doctrines thoroughly.

I strongly believe in the Catholic faith
It is true that the Catholic Church holds the fullness of the Christian faith. But it is also true that many other Christian communities hold and teach true Christian faith, but not in its fullness. The Orthodox churches are the closest to us, having a functioning apostolic priesthood, and all of the sacraments that God has given us. Mainline reformed church communities certainly have the truth with respect to the divinity of Jesus Christ, the trinity, and other essential doctrines. Most also have at least the sacraments of baptism and marriage. So, it is not wrong for you to believe that there is revealed truth to lesser degrees within those other Christian communities that have separated themselves from the Catholic Church. But we should also pray for the reunification of all Christian brothers and sisters in Christ, within the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that He built:
  1. The Church recognizes that in many ways she is linked with those who, being baptized, are honored with the name of Christian, though they do not profess the faith in its entirety or do not preserve unity of communion with the successor of Peter. (14*) For there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. (15*) They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ. They also recognize and accept other sacraments within their own Churches or ecclesiastical communities. Many of them rejoice in the episcopate, celebrate the Holy Eucharist and cultivate devotion toward the Virgin Mother of God.(16*) They also share with us in prayer and other spiritual benefits. Likewise we can say that in some real way they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power. Some indeed He has strengthened to the extent of the shedding of their blood. In all of Christ’s disciples the Spirit arouses the desire to be peacefully united, in the manner determined by Christ, as one flock under one shepherd, and He prompts them to pursue this end. (17*) Mother Church never ceases to pray, hope and work that this may come about. She exhorts her children to purification and renewal so that the sign of Christ may shine more brightly over the face of the earth.(Lumen Gentium, par. 15)
I hope this helps.

Peace,
Robert
 
As a former protestant, I would say that some protestant churches have completely ignored doctrine. Many churches will take a relative approach to theology. The problem with this approach is that there cannot be absolute truth and relativity. If you believe in absolute truth, then to live by “what works for you is ok, as long as it doesn’t effect me” is a lie. Two extreme viewpoints standing in direct opposition to each other can’t both be right. The church I was in viewed abortion as a woman’s right, the Catholic Church views abortion as murder, they can’t both be right.

The One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church would include the Eastern Orthodox. There is no evidence of any other churches before 1000ad. There were a few heretics, but the Catholic Church was the one Church formed by Christ. This issue has been debated many times, but nobody has given a starting date and founder of the Catholic Church besides 33ad and Jesus. There were certainly none of the denominations that we are familiar with.
 
also, Is it wrong for me to feel that protestant churches are very conforming and do not follow their doctrines thoroughly.

I strongly believe in the Catholic faith
I firmly believe that the Catholic Church is the Church our Lord established. I would not be Catholic if I felt otherwise. As to the second part of your question, regarding Protestants, I don’t think you should hold protestants to such a standard for I think you could be disappointed by Catholics who do not follow Catholicism thoroughly as well. Don’t focus on the failings of men. Protestant or Catholic. Yes there are protestants who do not follow their beliefs thoroughly and conform to societal pressures. With our fallen nature this should not surprise anyone. There are Catholics who do the same but the truth of Catholicism does not hinge on those who fail to uphold it’s doctrines. Likewise with Protestantism.

God bless
 
I believe in one God, the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial
with the Father;
Through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate
of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
Code:
For our sake he was crucified
  under Pontius Pilate,
    he suffered death and was buried,
    and rose again on the third day
    in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
    and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
    to judge the living and the dead
    and his kingdom will have no end.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son
is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
I believe in one, holy, catholic,
and apostolic Church.
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection
of the dead and the life of the world to come.
Amen.
:crossrc:
 
Catholics have one thing no one can prove or disprove. That is traditon, the unwritten word of Christ. Do you want a biblical church as is Lutheran and Presbyterians and hedge your bet traditions are fallacy?
 
The Catholic Church is the mother of the New Testament. The Church is not based on the NT; rather, The New Testament is based on the living, teaching Church whose leaders wrote it. The NT consists of 27 of the Catholic Church’s own writings.

That, and the fact that Christ founded the Catholic Church in A.D. 33 in Jerusalem (Mt 16:18-19), and promised to be with her always, until the end of time (Mt 28:20 KJV) establishes her place in history as the One True Church.

The Catholic Church is God-made. All Protestant organizations are man-made, founded in or after the 16th century.
 
Why be Catholic is you don’t believe so. But challenge your faith, who could afford a bible much less read it before the 16th century. So are other Christian churches wrong to be bible based as more wealth and literacy became available.? That is your decision.
 
The Orthodox believe that they are the true church of Christ also and that the Catholic church is NOT the real church

How do we know who is right?

Is St Peter and his sucessor the Pope and being in union with them the most important thing?

Catholics believe the gates of hell will never overcome their church,but i know that the Orthodox believe that the gates of hell HAVE overcome the Roman Catholic church

Why do they believe that ? that Rome is in error or heresy…?

If Romes beliefs were truly sound,then why would the Orthodox have such a case against them and accuse them of being heretical?

Who do we believe?
 
The Orthodox believe that they are the true church of Christ also and that the Catholic church is NOT the real church

How do we know who is right?

Is St Peter and his sucessor the Pope and being in union with them the most important thing?

Catholics believe the gates of hell will never overcome their church,but i know that the Orthodox believe that the gates of hell HAVE overcome the Roman Catholic church

Why do they believe that ? that Rome is in error or heresy…?

If Romes beliefs were truly sound,then why would the Orthodox have such a case against them and accuse them of being heretical?

Who do we believe?
Christians should believe Christ, the Apostles and Ante-Nicene Fathers, and the Bible.

Without exception.

In that order.
 
also, Is it wrong for me to feel that protestant churches are very conforming and do not follow their doctrines thoroughly.

I strongly believe in the Catholic faith
It’s a beautiful thing that you believe strongly in the Catholic faith. From my experience, the more you learn the more you grow to love it.

Please do be careful not to paint our Protestant brothers with too big of strokes, though. While there are indeed Protestant denominations that may not follow their doctrine, there are also many Catholics who don’t score too well either in this column. There are certainly examples of Protestant communities that follow their doctrine quite thoroughly to.

God bless you in your walk with the Lord.
 
Christ’s Church subsists in the Catholic Church. So the Catholic Church is the true Church, **but it doesn’t entirely eliminate the possibility that some protestant churches are Christ’s Church as well **and it leaves the possibility that they unite with the Catholic Church.
What does that mean?
 
What does that mean?
It simply means that they are not defined as false churches. It does not mean that they could be the true church and ours false. I wanted to clarify that but I didn’t realize that until the time was up.
 
Christians should believe Christ, the Apostles and Ante-Nicene Fathers, and the Bible.

Without exception.

In that order.
To believe Tertullian or Origen over the Gospels or the Epistles of Paul, Peter and James? Blasphemy! Surely one should read the New Testament (and preferably the Psalms) several times over before ever venturing to read the church fathers (Ante-Nicene Fathers included) or the Old Testament.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top