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I used to pray for my own healing, among other things, every day, requesting the intercession of people not-yet-canonized (hoping it would “be another good reason” for God to grant my petitions – so that these people could be canonized to give others inspiration). It hasn’t happened. (I’m hopeful for tomorrow!)
I then started reading St. Therese of Lisieux’s Story of a Soul, where she regards suffering and pain as gifts from God. I still don’t fully understand how she regarded suffering, but nonetheless, while reading this book the thought occurred to me that it was literally self-centered, selfish, for me to pray for myself.
It seems also to imply a disconnect from the will of God – as the Book of Job teaches, even to ask “Why am I suffering?” misunderstands the nature of God, whose providence and predestination has arranged everything for our good (Romans 8:28), and whose wisdom far surpasses our understanding. That is, it seems I ought to assume that whenever I suffer, it’s better than if I didn’t suffer (since God allows evil to bring about a greater good, right?).
So what do you think? If you disagree, then how is praying for ourselves – generally speaking – not selfish or demonstrating a disconnect from God’s will? I understand that praying for ourselves can have a selfless motivation, e.g. a sick parent wanting to recover to continue caring for a child, but this still seems to imply a disconnect from God’s will insofar as there is one’s own will being requested, rather than “unifying” ourselves to God’s will (as one passage in this book discusses) – that is, it seems the “best” prayer is only to pray for God’s will, and never our own. Yet it becomes difficult to distinguish this from the so-called “spiritual suicide” of Buddhism (as someone on Catholic Answers has critiqued it, i.e. the cessation of our own desires).
So I guess, more generally speaking, the interplay between our will and God’s will is not clear to me: It seems like the goal is for our will to become redundant (for us to only will what God already wills), yet this seems demeaning in a way, i.e. “God didn’t create us to be robots, but He wants us to act like robots,” by always looking first to see what God’s will is and then mimicking it.
What do you think?
I then started reading St. Therese of Lisieux’s Story of a Soul, where she regards suffering and pain as gifts from God. I still don’t fully understand how she regarded suffering, but nonetheless, while reading this book the thought occurred to me that it was literally self-centered, selfish, for me to pray for myself.
It seems also to imply a disconnect from the will of God – as the Book of Job teaches, even to ask “Why am I suffering?” misunderstands the nature of God, whose providence and predestination has arranged everything for our good (Romans 8:28), and whose wisdom far surpasses our understanding. That is, it seems I ought to assume that whenever I suffer, it’s better than if I didn’t suffer (since God allows evil to bring about a greater good, right?).
So what do you think? If you disagree, then how is praying for ourselves – generally speaking – not selfish or demonstrating a disconnect from God’s will? I understand that praying for ourselves can have a selfless motivation, e.g. a sick parent wanting to recover to continue caring for a child, but this still seems to imply a disconnect from God’s will insofar as there is one’s own will being requested, rather than “unifying” ourselves to God’s will (as one passage in this book discusses) – that is, it seems the “best” prayer is only to pray for God’s will, and never our own. Yet it becomes difficult to distinguish this from the so-called “spiritual suicide” of Buddhism (as someone on Catholic Answers has critiqued it, i.e. the cessation of our own desires).
So I guess, more generally speaking, the interplay between our will and God’s will is not clear to me: It seems like the goal is for our will to become redundant (for us to only will what God already wills), yet this seems demeaning in a way, i.e. “God didn’t create us to be robots, but He wants us to act like robots,” by always looking first to see what God’s will is and then mimicking it.
What do you think?