Is it wrong to feel this way?

[Biblelove13]

There are many things that sparked my answer, but I will only share one. A slovenly man responded to a spoken word video titled “I hate religion, but love Jesus” with “I hate religion, and – too”. I know we are supposed to tell people about Jesus, but I really don’t care if people like this go to hell. I don’t want to lie to God, or myself, by pretending that I do. Because honestly I deserve hell, and I am now certain that is where I am going, because even though I repented of my old sins, I sin every single day, I continue to sin. I have repented 100 times over, but I still sin (not the old sins pertaining to meditation and new age stuff, but I still lie, I still have uncharitable thoughts, I still wish ill on people who make me mad). The way I see it, I am so rotten my time must be spent on trying to fix myself, trying to make God happy, NOT trying to educate them. It’s every soul for themselves. Is it a sin to feel this way?

 

[Nelka]

There are many things that sparked my answer, but I will only share one. A slovenly man responded to a spoken word video titled “I hate religion, but love Jesus” with “I hate religion, and – too”. I know we are supposed to tell people about Jesus, but I really don’t care if people like this go to hell. I don’t want to lie to God, or myself, by pretending that I do. Because honestly I deserve hell, and I am now certain that is where I am going, because even though I repented of my old sins, I sin every single day, I continue to sin. I have repented 100 times over, but I still sin (not the old sins pertaining to meditation and new age stuff, but I still lie, I still have uncharitable thoughts, I still wish ill on people who make me mad). The way I see it, I am so rotten my time must be spent on trying to fix myself, trying to make God happy, NOT trying to educate them. It’s every soul for themselves. Is it a sin to feel this way?

Yes.

The spiritual works of mercy are:

•To instruct the ignorant;
•To counsel the doubtful;
•To admonish sinners;
•To bear wrongs patiently;
•To forgive offences willingly;
•To comfort the afflicted;
•To pray for the living and the dead.

 

[knotanes]

There are many things that sparked my answer, but I will only share one. A slovenly man responded to a spoken word video titled “I hate religion, but love Jesus” with “I hate religion, and – too”. I know we are supposed to tell people about Jesus, but I really don’t care if people like this go to hell. I don’t want to lie to God, or myself, by pretending that I do. Because honestly I deserve hell, and I am now certain that is where I am going, because even though I repented of my old sins, I sin every single day, I continue to sin. I have repented 100 times over, but I still sin (not the old sins pertaining to meditation and new age stuff, but I still lie, I still have uncharitable thoughts, I still wish ill on people who make me mad). The way I see it, I am so rotten my time must be spent on trying to fix myself, trying to make God happy, NOT trying to educate them. It’s every soul for themselves. Is it a sin to feel this way?

We have to pray for ourselves and for others–even the ones we don’t like. I, daily, find myself praying for help to be the kind of person God wants me to be and fulfill His purpose for my existence. Because I have quite a few sin-albatrosses draped over my neck.

Don’t beat yourself up, and try to forgive others. Part of the Christian/Catholic life is accepting forgiveness and forgiving.

I understand where you’re coming from, but I do believe there is hope for all of us in God’s time and through God’s mercy.

I’m having a hard time not thinking “serves em’ right” about a few individuals right now, but this isn’t good. I’m praying I can overcome this urge to think this way.

 

[JRKH]

There are many things that sparked my answer, but I will only share one. A slovenly man responded to a spoken word video titled “I hate religion, but love Jesus” with “I hate religion, and – too”. I know we are supposed to tell people about Jesus, but I really don’t care if people like this go to hell. I don’t want to lie to God, or myself, by pretending that I do. Because honestly I deserve hell, and I am now certain that is where I am going, because even though I repented of my old sins, I sin every single day, I continue to sin. I have repented 100 times over, but I still sin (not the old sins pertaining to meditation and new age stuff, but I still lie, I still have uncharitable thoughts, I still wish ill on people who make me mad). The way I see it, I am so rotten my time must be spent on trying to fix myself, trying to make God happy, NOT trying to educate them. It’s every soul for themselves. Is it a sin to feel this way?

Personally - I think yo are wise to recognize where you are and what you are capable of at the present moment…
No one comes to the Church a “ready made saint”…it takes time…Even those who seem to have been saintly from a very early age (like the little flower St Therese) felt that they were horrible sinners…

At present your job IS to work on yourself.
Your job at present is NOT to educate others.
You cannot be a good witness in your current state and God knows this.
You are better off, and doing God’s will, by evangelizing your own self rather than trying to evangelize others.

So - consider yourself to be the sole person you are trying to bring to God.
Treat yourself like you would treat a trusted friend. If that friend (who is Catholic) came to you and said “I know I destined for hell”, what might you say to help that person…Something like:
“AWW come on man…It isn’t that bad. I’ve seen you do a lot of good things. OK so you still lie…bad habits are tough to break. It takes time. Yea - I know you some times still talk bad about others…but I’ve also seen when you’ve caught yourself…the look of sorrow on your face says it all.”
“Remember man that God is forgiving…Let’s pray together and always know I’m here for you anytime…”

Start saying these things to yourself…and to us here at CAF too…We are good listeners…

Peace
James

 

[Julia_Mae]

… I am now certain that is where I am going, because even though I repented of my old sins, I sin every single day, I continue to sin. I have repented 100 times over, but I still sin (not the old sins pertaining to meditation and new age stuff, but I still lie, I still have uncharitable thoughts, I still wish ill on people who make me mad).

Soooo…you are a normal human being, then? Pretty sure you aren’t so special that you are the only one going to hell for being an average Joe.

Jesus came to save sinners, not reward the sinless.

What did He say? "None are good but God alone."

So, if you go to Mass, if you try to keep your mind on Him, if you avoid occasions of sin, if you seek out positive company and try too find ways to serve, sooner or later some good will come through you. That will be the action of God through the Holy Spirit because - guess what? You are still not good and still going to sin.

Just like the Pope. And me. And that lady on the bus bench.

People send themselves to hell by hating God, not by being human.

 

[Rich_C]

People send themselves to hell by hating God, not by being human.

Our Lord also said that He will spit the lukewarm out of His mouth. A lot of people are lukewarm. We shouldn’t be content to be “good enough,” but we need to replace worry with trust in God. Stay close to the sacraments and pray from the heart everyday, and be as kind as you can. When you’ve found your feet, you can help others better. For now, I second what JRKH wrote.

 

[YESSENIA1]

You are a “Beautiful” creation from “God”
And I will keep you in my prayers…

 

[Veronica97]

I was once very ignorant of my Faith–that person you were angry with could be me! Our main goal in life as Catholic Christians is to become more and more united to Jesus and more and more LIKE Jesus. Jesus says we are to love one another. If I love someone, I want them to go to Heaven. Our Lady of Fatima said that many souls go to Hell b/c there is no one to pray for them. At the Last Judgement, Jesus will show us all the souls we helped get to heaven through our prayers and good words and deeds. And He will also show us those souls whom we COULD have helped but didn’t…and now are lost for all eternity! It will either be an AWESOME day or the WORST DAY IMAGINABLE! Right now just pray to God to love Him above all things and to love your neighbor as yourself. It may take time, but He will change your heart.

 

[Julia_Mae]

For now, I second what JRKH wrote.

Hey, I’ll second it and I haven’t even read it. …:::reading:::… yup, right on.

 

[JRKH]

Our Lord also said that He will spit the lukewarm out of His mouth. A lot of people are lukewarm. We shouldn’t be content to be “good enough,” but we need to replace worry with trust in God. Stay close to the sacraments and pray from the heart everyday, and be as kind as you can. When you’ve found your feet, you can help others better. For now, I second what JRKH wrote.

Hey, I’ll second it and I haven’t even read it. …:::reading:::… yup, right on.

Aww…Now I’m … :blushing:

Peace
James

 

[YESSENIA1]

I Love that Veronia 97!!!

 

[mike2112]

“Every Saint has a past, and every sinner has a future.” Keep praying for each other! We should have in our mindset that no one should go to hell. It is up to God to judge.We have to be always looking out for each other because life will be but a vapor in the wind.

 

[Lady_Love]

Feelings are not sinful but what you do with those feelings can be sinful.

St. Therese used to feel repugnance for a certain sister in her community but she did not let her feelings determine her actions. In fact, her community thought that Therese was rather “attached” to that sister because she showed the woman such special treatment.

 

[LegoGE1947]

Personally - I think yo are wise to recognize where you are and what you are capable of at the present moment…
No one comes to the Church a “ready made saint”…it takes time…Even those who seem to have been saintly from a very early age (like the little flower St Therese) felt that they were horrible sinners…

At present your job IS to work on yourself.
Your job at present is NOT to educate others.
You cannot be a good witness in your current state and God knows this.
You are better off, and doing God’s will, by evangelizing your own self rather than trying to evangelize others.

So - consider yourself to be the sole person you are trying to bring to God.
Treat yourself like you would treat a trusted friend. If that friend (who is Catholic) came to you and said “I know I destined for hell”, what might you say to help that person…Something like:
“AWW come on man…It isn’t that bad. I’ve seen you do a lot of good things. OK so you still lie…bad habits are tough to break. It takes time. Yea - I know you some times still talk bad about others…but I’ve also seen when you’ve caught yourself…the look of sorrow on your face says it all.”
“Remember man that God is forgiving…Let’s pray together and always know I’m here for you anytime…”

Start saying these things to yourself…and to us here at CAF too…We are good listeners…

Peace
James

Also, if you love Jesus but imperfectly, you may go to purgatory but that is temporary and then you’ll spend forever in heaven with God.

 

[acacia12]

Personally - I think yo are wise to recognize where you are and what you are capable of at the present moment…
No one comes to the Church a “ready made saint”…it takes time…Even those who seem to have been saintly from a very early age (like the little flower St Therese) felt that they were horrible sinners…

At present your job IS to work on yourself.
Your job at present is NOT to educate others.
You cannot be a good witness in your current state and God knows this.
You are better off, and doing God’s will, by evangelizing your own self rather than trying to evangelize others.

So - consider yourself to be the sole person you are trying to bring to God.
Treat yourself like you would treat a trusted friend. If that friend (who is Catholic) came to you and said “I know I destined for hell”, what might you say to help that person…Something like:
“AWW come on man…It isn’t that bad. I’ve seen you do a lot of good things. OK so you still lie…bad habits are tough to break. It takes time. Yea - I know you some times still talk bad about others…but I’ve also seen when you’ve caught yourself…the look of sorrow on your face says it all.”
“Remember man that God is forgiving…Let’s pray together and always know I’m here for you anytime…”

Start saying these things to yourself…and to us here at CAF too…We are good listeners…

Peace
James

I third this! Wtg. Reading this made me feel good!

 

[JaredR]

Here’s the thing about Catholicism. Yes, your primary objective in life is getting it straightened out and pleasing God. But you can only do this through charity toward others. If you’re not kind and serving to others, all your efforts at this essential task of moving toward God will be fruitless. Remember what St. Paul said about the necessity of love? If I have not love… etc.

In a sense, saving others is essential to saving yourself. Why? Because to love God we have to love what He loves, and He loves people. We have to want what He wants, and He wants everyone to come to repentance.

 

[JRKH]

Here’s the thing about Catholicism. Yes, your primary objective in life is getting it straightened out and pleasing God. But you can only do this through charity toward others. If you’re not kind and serving to others, all your efforts at this essential task of moving toward God will be fruitless. Remember what St. Paul said about the necessity of love? If I have not love… etc.

In a sense, saving others is essential to saving yourself. Why? Because to love God we have to love what He loves, and He loves people. We have to want what He wants, and He wants everyone to come to repentance.

This is very true…but let’s not forget that even St. Paul, who had been persecuting Christians, went to Arabia for three years before he started evangelizing (“saving”) others.
Likewise Jesus taught the Apostles for three years before he turned them loose to evangelize.

Love is the key. Of this there can be no doubt. But learning that, and learning how to apply that is crucial…and until that time…it’s best to concentrate on the internal.

Peace
James