Is it wrong to go to a nightclub?

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I want to go to a nightclub with my friends for some fun. They will play popular dance music at this club as they do at every club, which means some of the songs will have lyrics with nothing wrong with them and others will have raunchy lyrics. Is it wrong for me to go to the club just because some of the music will have bad lyrics? I think it would be better for a positive influence such as myself, a person who cares about morals, to be there, than for me not to go.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
I think it would be better for a positive influence such as myself, a person who cares about morals, to be there, than for me not to go.
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How? Are you going to get up and sing “alternative lyrics,” or something? Give a “Christian” version of the raunchy lyrics?😛 Seriously, I think you’d be better off going somewhere else.
 
Why are you going? Would you be going to dance and socialize? Would you know the stuff that you are listening to can be immoral? If the stuff is immoral, could you not let it influence you. If you are sensitive and could be lead astray, maybe not a good idea. Depends on how grounded you are on your morals.
 
I just want to go to have a fun time with my friends. We love to dance. (Not dirty dance). Anyway, I am strong in my morals.
 
There comes a time in life, when you will be exposed to people who lack morals. It is sad, but true. Are you a teenager? (if you are, would your parents approve). Just know that if you stray, that you will have to answer to Him. Keep in mind, everything you do should glorify Him.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
I think it would be better for a positive influence such as myself, a person who cares about morals, to be there, than for me not to go.
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I can’t say it is wrong or right …but:
what is your plan to be a positive influence for being there? what kinds of influences you have in mind?

Could a seminarian be a good example for going to nightclub with some friends? 🙂
 
My question is just is this: Is it wrong to be there if some of the music they play has bad lyrics? Because every club will do the same. It isn’t as if by my not being there the establishment will notice I’m not there and get a message that they need to change their music, but I could talk to the establishment if I were there.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
My question is just is this: Is it wrong to be there if some of the music they play has bad lyrics? Because every club will do the same. It isn’t as if by my not being there the establishment will notice I’m not there and get a message that they need to change their music, but I could talk to the establishment if I were there.
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If your purpose is to go to the establishment and talk to them about playing “wholesome” music. I don’t see that as a bad thing.🙂 Good luck to that.
 
This is a sad story, but it is another reason why some of them may be immoral.
This just happened last night in Mexico City, Mexico.

Twelve people died in a rush for the exit Friday night during a raid on a nightclub in northern Mexico City, police said.

The raid at 6:30 p.m. resulted in a rush for the doors that left two minors and three police officers among the dead, said Joel Ortega, secretary of public security.

Police said they were sent to the club after hearing that drugs and alcohol were being sold to minors. The legal age for drinking is 18.

Thirty-nine people were arrested, including the owner of the club, who was accused of instigating the stampede by announcing the raid on a microphone and of not having enough emergency exits.

cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/21/mexico.nightclub/index.html
 
In and of itself going to a nightclub isn’t wrong, though it depends what you’re doing there.

I wouldn’t go to a nightclub these days, but not because I necessarily think it’s wrong but because I got sick of the places when I used to go 2-3 times a week (I sold the tickets and got in VIP everywhere, though for the record the reason I sold them was because I was university hall president and it was safer for people to buy tickets for approved clubs from an approved source than getting them from unscrupulous ticket sellers who shouldn’t be on university premises and I also didn’t keep the profit money it all went on the students)
 
Wow, what a tough question! I suppose if one says no, the respondent will say, “Well, what kind of dances am I limited to then – none other than those at church halls?”

If I had children who asked, I would probably try to find out as much as I could about the hall in advance, and then let them go, but I would be out there to pick up afterward (even if they wanted me to hide around the corner). I might even drop down and get a ticket myself at least once, or send a friend to observe what goes on there (without necessarily advising my child that I might do that).

Sooner or later everyone has to make decisions regarding “not so wholesome places.” Hopefully those who attend will always keep in mind though, that respect is something you have to either “show or give” in order to get, and once it’s thrown out the window, it can be hard to get back again for many, many years.

Hopefully religious background will be strong enough to make young people “aware” of the types of people they are hanging around with and want to hang around at the most wholesome places possible.

In the meantime, I might be inclined to do all I could to find out if there were Christian dances in the area and encourage them to preferably attend those, trying to get my child to understand to understand and appreciate my concerns.
iwannabesomeone said:
I want to go to a nightclub with my friends for some fun. They will play popular dance music at this club as they do at every club, which means some of the songs will have lyrics with nothing wrong with them and others will have raunchy lyrics. Is it wrong for me to go to the club just because some of the music will have bad lyrics? I think it would be better for a positive influence such as myself, a person who cares about morals, to be there, than for me not to go.
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Even dinky little backwater Southern towns have Christian dance clubs these days. If your town does not have one, maybe you and your friends could start one.
 
The age old music question… someone should sticky this (blog by Jimmy Akin, a Catholic apologist)

jimmyakin.typepad.com/defensor_fidei/2005/07/bad_music.html

Anyway in some nightclubs there’s a lot worse going on than music with bad words (drunk people, people engaging in inappropriate sexual conduct, people fighting, etc. This is not the case at all night clubs though, especially if its an underage nightclub). However despite that, I don’t think it’s wrong to go to a nightclub - just don’t do the wrong things the other patrons do and you’ll be alright, I’d say.
 
iwannabesomeone said:
I want to go to a nightclub with my friends for some fun. They will play popular dance music at this club as they do at every club, which means some of the songs will have lyrics with nothing wrong with them and others will have raunchy lyrics. Is it wrong for me to go to the club just because some of the music will have bad lyrics? I think it would be better for a positive influence such as myself, a person who cares about morals, to be there, than for me not to go.
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Brother… what are you going to do at the night club?
Just going there to talk with your buddies and maybe have a coke and a bit of dancing with some pretty girls? There is nothing wrong with that…
most music is actually not so bad… lyrics that are down right perverse are found mostly at strip clups or maybe some rap-clubs…
Again… what do you expect to do there?
I will tell you… if you wanna be an attractive Catholic man you will avoid being seen a places where people might think you are something else… dont go to a place where you would not want to take your 13-year old son or daughter… or where you would not want your respectable wife to know that you like to hang out…
I think you know the story: What would Jesus do…
He hung out with sinners… yes… but He did not go into brothels to preach there. if you are called to preach… do it at places where your voice can be heard… not in a noisy night club.
 
mommyof4 said:
Is there a “theology on tap” program for you in your area?
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They don’t dance at TOT, do they? 😉
GraceDK said:
if you are called to preach… do it at places where your voice can be heard… not in a noisy night club.
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I dunno…don’t you think one could preach by their actions? Not drinking to excess when one’s buddies do, not leering at cute girls and making suggestive comments even though your friends do i.e. being a good example by one’s behavior? I think there may be some merit there. 🤷
 
Newbie2 said:
They don’t dance at TOT, do they? 😉

I dunno…don’t you think one could preach by their actions? Not drinking to excess when one’s buddies do, not leering at cute girls and making suggestive comments even though your friends do i.e. being a good example by one’s behavior? I think there may be some merit there. 🤷
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Yes… by their actions… when you hang out with people and drink while they drink to excess then… no… I dont think anyone but you notice just exactly how many drinks you have had… A young man or woman might see you and your friends together at the club and think: “Oh… isnt that so and so from Church who says he is a Catholic… yeah well… you know how Catholics drink” … the same with suggestive comments… Do you think your buddies are going to notice your silence or whatever you are planning on? I believe that if you want to make a statement showing that you dont talk about women in a degrading way you can make that point to your buddies at any other time and place where they will actually remember your words vividly afterwards.
I once sat at a table with a bunch of drunkards and preached to them… my oh my… talking about throwing pearls in front of pigs. I dont think any of them woke up the next morning puking and thinking: Oh my… but at least I talked to Grace and I will be sure never to get drunk again. oh no… you forget when you drink. and when you want preaching or deep conversation you talk to a friend or go to Church.
Could it be that you really wanna go to this club… not because you want to show a good example but because you dont want to be left out? Look… if thats the case then why not be honest about it… we all know its tough to be the odd one out… and you go to places and make up excuses on the way.
I have secular friends too who have tried to get me to party with them…they bid me a beer and I say: no thanks. They know I am a Christian and they think :“okay… that is Grace… but this is me”- and then they empty the bottle and open the next one and go have sex with their girl friend… Even though they see me and know my stance… because we talk about these things in a civilised manner when they are sober too. i dont need to go clubbing in order to tell my friends about my faith. Do you?
I am sorry… you might not like to hear this… but I dont admire a man who preaches by silence while he is in the night club with his friends. If you wanna be an example then talk and walk as a Christian and loose the friends that cant handle the light of a new creation.

these are just my two cents…🤷
 
Newbie… by the way… I see you are not the OP right… but that does not matter… the scenario is hypothetical… so dont take it personally… I dont mean to say you engage in this behaviour… just that the the explanations you offered dont really hold water with me…
 
It’s not objectively immoral to go to a nightclub.

That being said, I will not go to one. I’m in college, so I see many advertisements for nightclubs (usually in the form of cards under my windshield wipers or people handing out energy drinks). All of them contain a sweaty looking girl whose bikini barely covers the taboo areas…

For me, it has nothing to do with the music. It’s the other activities that commonly happen in nightclubs that I avoid like the plague. I’m not afraid of falling in to sin and partaking in such activities, I just see no real reason to subject myself to it. Maybe there are more wholesome nightclubs, but I don’t plan on finding out.

I agree with Grace that a nightclub isn’t the place to spread the Word. I think I set a better example by not going to one than by going to one and still avoiding sin. When I think about the most Christ-like people I know, I couldn’t imagine them in a stereotypical nightclub.
 
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