Is it wrong to kill animals?

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Also Hindus believe in reincarnation and believe that when some people die they “return” as animals. So that is the main reason why most Hindus don’t kill animals because they think they might have killed a friend from their “past life” or might have killed a person (which of course isn’t true!)
 
catholicboy2 said:
I agree with distracted
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gee, i wasn’t expecting to hear these words on CAF anytime soon… 😃
its just sick how people can show affection to animals but no affection towards humans.:eek:
Insects really bother me though and I don’t feel guilt usually on killing them, especially if they’re inside.
I usually don’t kill non-biting bugs but I still have.
Yes I’ll kill them outside if they’re really close to me or jump on me, but I usually just hit them away. But I try to kill biting bugs if they’re near me.
I have felt a little guilt a few times but I don’t really let it get to me.
And it’s not like if I kill a few bugs, it’s going to affect the entire ecosystem
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How do we know?? :hypno:

😃

yeah, i actually just came to the conclusion that it was a neurosis on my part… feeling somewhat guilty for having to kill bugs inside…

but then… i guess it makes sense since God created the annoying little &*&^%s

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catholicboy2 said:
Also Hindus believe in reincarnation and believe that when some people die they “return” as animals. So that is the main reason why most Hindus don’t kill animals because they think they might have killed a friend from their “past life” or might have killed a person (which of course isn’t true!)
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well, we civilized countries need to disabuse them of such nonsensical beliefs…

by invading their country and disposing of their leader… and telling them what they can and cannot believe… 😃

uh… that’s what we usually do, isn’t it??? :o
 
no, i’m not saying waht happened to Saddam was wrong… not hardly…
 
distracted said:
i was agreeing w/ you… until you said this:

you and i obviously worship a different God…
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I am not sure what makes you say that? Catholicism says quite clearly that in moral theology, that the end never justifies the means.

I don’t think Christianity teaches that killing animals for food is intrinsically wrong (though it could be in certain situations.) But** if it did**, then circumstances wouldn’t make it ok in some situations. A starving person could not in that case justify killing a dog to eat, or killing the guy next door to eat. That is pretty much a given in Christian theology.

Similarly, if Hindus came to the conclusion that to kill animals for food was intrinsically morally wrong, then the fact that an individual was starving would not make it right somehow. I wouldn’t expect Hindus to sacrifice their moral imperatives to convenience any more than Christians, even if I think they might have the wrong end of the stick on the moral imperatives.
 
distracted said:
not sure why this is relevent… (?)
(not to mention that long-term vegetarianism is unhealthy and no long-time vegan lives to age 100 or beyond…)
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Only because it was suggested in a previous post that there would be no reason for a Christian to be a vegetarian, which isn’t really the case. Trappist monastics are vegetarians, for example.

Actually, a lot of vegans live to be quite old, in some cases they are among the longest lived worldwide. There is even a famous iron-man competitor, a good one, who is a vegan. His main difficulty is just eating enough calories, not a problem for many of us.

That being said, I have no desire to be a vegan, and I don’t think it’s ethically required unless you take a vow.
 
Eddie_Mac said:
You should not give animals human characteristics.

We have owned animals we loved very much, but when it was time to put them down we did so. I would not euthanize one of my children.

I would never favor one of my animals over a human.

Eddie Mac
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So where did I go wrong? The former owner was looking to find homes for two Persian cats and I accepted the offer. I took upon the responsibility of their well-being. I treat them as kids because I don’t have any kids. If I had kids then, yes, I would “favor” the kids, but they’d all be part of my family.

You’d probably be offended but I once saw someone at a cat show wearing a tee shirt saying “My cats were allergic so I got rid of the kids.” 🙂
 
distracted said:
God created animals for human use… I don’t believe in cruelty to animals but animals are not equal to human beings or anywhere close…
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There was a story, I think it was in one of the movies, that Christ first realized His Divinity when after He cried over a dead bird, He found He could bring it back to life.

We don’t have to believe this, however. But I’m sure Christ wasn’t cruel to animals.

Remember too, sacrificing the best lamb you had by a high priest was made under the Old Covenant. Christ Himself replaced the animals in the New Covenant. Did I phrase that correctly?
 
Silver_Thread said:
Wait a minute …wasn’t Ghandi a Hindu and don’t they believe Cows are sacred animals? Couldn’t we find a better reason for caring for animals. When I was growin up over 50 yrs ago, if an animal was sick it was shot and buried. Kittens were offered around the neighborhood the excess were drowned. A dog was for hunting and property protection. Strays were shot, usually during hunting season. Pets were rarely abused, but if they were who cared. No one! Today many pets are substitutes for children and are even referred to as my boys or girls, my kids by owners. (sick). We;ve come a long way baby!
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We sure have…and not for the better.😦 I believe Gandhi’s quote pertains to all animals. You state aboput what happened 50 years ago and you are correct. Look now around our society. We have so little regard for ANY form of life…human and animal. You can see that very plainly in the society we have today.
 
distracted said:
i don’t like dogs, not all that crazy about cats…

but i find (just being human) tht i really despise them because of this, what you mention…

pepole babying their *&^%$ animals while aborting their children and/or not giving a rip whether others do the same…

but i guess that’s what happens when pepole are not … in God’s will (his church, Scirpture…)
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How sad…I feel very sorry for you…
 
BlyssfulDreamer said:
We sure have…and not for the better.😦 I believe Gandhi’s quote pertains to all animals. You state aboput what happened 50 years ago and you are correct. Look now around our society. We have so little regard for ANY form of life…human and animal. You can see that very plainly in the society we have today.
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Absolutely right on!!! Turn on the TV or go to the movies. We make entertainment out of killing people, and nobody bats an eye about that. Our society disrespects ALL of life.
 
ProVobis said:
There was a story, I think it was in one of the movies, that Christ first realized His Divinity when after He cried over a dead bird, He found He could bring it back to life.

We don’t have to believe this, however. But I’m sure Christ wasn’t cruel to animals.

Remember too, sacrificing the best lamb you had by a high priest was made under the Old Covenant. Christ Himself replaced the animals in the New Covenant. Did I phrase that correctly?
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Christ not realizing His Divinity until -[fill in the blank] - is blasphemous.
 
Silver_Thread said:
Wait a minute …wasn’t Ghandi a Hindu and don’t they believe Cows are sacred animals? Couldn’t we find a better reason for caring for animals. When I was growin up over 50 yrs ago, if an animal was sick it was shot and buried. Kittens were offered around the neighborhood** the excess were drowned**. A dog was for hunting and property protection. Strays were shot, usually during hunting season. Pets were rarely abused, but if they were who cared. No one! Today many pets are substitutes for children and are even referred to as my boys or girls, my kids by owners. (sick). We;ve come a long way baby!
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A bit too ghoulish for my tastes, although otherwise I agree.
 
It is wrong to kill animals if it is unnecessary because it makes you more cruel and your actions may spread towards humans. However if you feel your life is in danger or for food, or of course if it is a snake (yuck), you shouldn’t feel bad for killing it.
 
Bluegoat said:
Strictly speaking, the Hindu views on cows are related to cultural values rather than religious ones.

Ghandi was an interesting, and not at all stupid person, who placed a very high value on human life - I wouldn’t mock him without learning a bit about him.
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Nobody said he was stupid. Hindu’s consider cows as sacred and do not eat beef. If you want to take it further, Hinduism is a cultural religion. Individual practices can vary depending on the individual.
 
ProVobis said:
I believe Christ had a Human Nature as well. Human implies biological development. What were you taught?
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ProVobis,

Christ is a Divine Person - but with two natures; Divine and human. He was never schizophrenic as the modernists would have you believe and knew full well whom He was and what His mission was even while He was in the womb of the Blessed Virgin Mary. What you’re describing is Nestorianism which was anathematized by the Council of Ephesus.

credo.stormloader.com/Doctrine/nestor.htm
 
Just for the record, Gandhi never uttered that quote and, when push came to shove, he valued human life as superior to that of animals. For example, he sanctioned the killing of monkeys to protect crops, and killing stray dogs. He even went as far as to put down a cow in his ashram, contrary to Hindu sentiment though it was.

As for the animals, the Church is clear. No more important than rocks or trees.
 
Pope_Noah_I said:
Just for the record, Gandhi never uttered that quote and, when push came to shove, he valued human life as superior to that of animals. For example, he sanctioned the killing of monkeys to protect crops, and killing stray dogs. He even went as far as to put down a cow in his ashram, contrary to Hindu sentiment though it was.

As for the animals, the Church is clear. No more important than rocks or trees.
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But, how important are rocks and trees? And are we not to treat them according to their nature, which is God-given.
 
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