Is Jesus God?

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Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father except through the son, what about Jewish people, I know Jesus was Jewish, what about Hindu’s, Buddist’s, Muslim’s, Atheist’s, 12 stepers in AA, God heals them, Blesses them, answer them,
(Part I of II)
It is true that Yahweh God works in mysterious ways… but it is also true that He let Himself be knonw:

19 For what can be known about God is perfectly plain to them, since God has made it plain to them: 20 ever since the creation of the world, the invisible existence of God and his everlasting power have been clearly seen by the mind’s understanding of created things. And so these people have no excuse: 21 they knew God and yet they did not honour him as God or give thanks to him, but their arguments became futile and their uncomprehending minds were darkened. 22 While they claimed to be wise, in fact they were growing so stupid 23 that they exchanged the glory of the immortal God for an imitation, for the image of a mortal human being, or of birds, or animals, or crawling things. 24 That is why God abandoned them in their inmost cravings to filthy practices of dishonouring their own bodies- 25 because they exchanged God’s truth for a lie and have worshipped and served the creature instead of the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 That is why God abandoned them to degrading passions: 27 why their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural practices; and the men, in a similar fashion, too, giving up normal relations with women, are consumed with passion for each other, men doing shameful things with men and receiving in themse 28 In other words, since they would not consent to acknowledge God, God abandoned them to their unacceptable thoughts and indecent behaviour. 29 And so now they are steeped in all sorts of injustice, rottenness, greed and malice; full of envy, murder, wrangling, treachery and spite, 30 libellers, slanderers, enemies of God, rude, arrogant and boastful, enterprising in evil, rebellious to parents, 31 without brains, honour, love or pity. 32 They are well aware of God’s ordinance: that those who behave like this deserve to die – yet they not only do it, but even applaud others who do the same. (Romans 1:19-32)

18 Jesus came up and spoke to them. He said, ‘All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go, therefore, make disciples of all nations; baptise them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teach them to observe all the commands I gave you. And look, I am with you always; yes, to the end of time.’ (St. Matthew 28:18-20)

'Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me; and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. (St. Matthew 10:40)

16 ‘Anyone who listens to you listens to me; anyone who rejects you rejects me, and those who reject me reject the one who sent me.’ (St. Luke 10:16)
if people don’t believe Jesus was God can they be forgiven for their sin, do they have eternal life, where do they go of they don’t know Jesus. Jesus said mercy is what pleases me not sacrifice.
Mercy is the reason why it took the Word to become Incarnate; Mercy is the reason why Jesus founded His Church; Mercy is the reason why Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to the Church; Mercy is the reason why the Church continues to work on the conversion of mankind; Mercy is the reason why the Parousia has not happened as yet… you are confusing willful disobedience and disbelief with genuine ignorance… the first will cause us to lose Salvation, the latter is accounted for in Romans 1:19-20a.
What if a man or woman lived a good life, but never recieved Jesus, but a man or woman who recieved Jesus and sinned their whole life and asked for forgiveness, it seems the person who obeyed withot know the complete truth was more faithful than the person who knew the truth but was sinful, Do we have a license to sin all we need to do is repent and we can live anyway we want? Jesus said if you love me you will obey my commands,
You are speaking of two distict people; the first, if genuinely ignorant, is addressed in the following:

12 All those who have sinned without the Law will perish without the Law; and those under the Law who have sinned will be judged by the Law. 13 For the ones that God will justify are not those who have heard the Law but those who have kept the Law. 14 So, when gentiles, not having the Law, still through their own innate sense behave as the Law commands, then, even though they have no Law, they are a law for themselves. 15 They can demonstrate the effect of the Law engraved on their hearts, to which their own conscience bears witness; since they are aware of various considerations, some of which accuse them, while others provide them with a defence . . . on the day when, 16 according to the gospel that I preach, God, through Jesus Christ, judges all human secrets. (Romans 2:12-16)

…the second example speaks of those who think that they are circumventing God’s Wrath through feigned repentance:

1 As God’s dear children, then, take him as your pattern, 2 and follow Christ by loving as he loved you, giving himself up for us as an offering and a sweet-smelling sacrifice to God. 3 Among you there must be not even a mention of sexual vice or impurity in any of its forms, or greed: this would scarcely become the holy people of God! 4 There must be no foul or salacious talk or coarse jokes – all this is wrong for you; there should rather be thanksgiving. 5 For you can be quite certain that nobody who indulges in sexual immorality or impurity or greed – which is worshipping a false god – can inherit the kingdom of God. 6 Do not let anyone deceive you with empty arguments: it is such behaviour that draws down God’s retribution on those who rebel against him. 7 Make sure that you do not throw in your lot with them.
(Cont. on part II)
 
Jesus said…
Part II of II

8 You were darkness once, but now you are light in the Lord; behave as children of light, 9 for the effects of the light are seen in complete goodness and uprightness and truth. 10 Try to discover what the Lord wants of you, 11 take no part in the futile works of darkness but, on the contrary, show them up for what they are. 12 The things which are done in secret are shameful even to speak of; 13 but anything shown up by the light will be illuminated 14 and anything illuminated is itself a light. That is why it is said: Wake up, sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you. 15 So be very careful about the sort of lives you lead, like intelligent and not like senseless people. 16 Make the best of the present time, for it is a wicked age. 17 This is why you must not be thoughtless but must recognise what is the will of the Lord. 18 Do not get drunk with wine; this is simply dissipation; be filled with the Spirit. 19 Sing psalms and hymns and inspired songs among yourselves, singing and chanting to the Lord in your hearts, 20 always and everywhere giving thanks to God who is our Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Ephisians 5:1-20)

1 Let us beware, then: since the promise never lapses, none of you must think that he has come too late for the promise of entering his place of rest. 2 We received the gospel exactly as they did; but hearing the message did them no good because they did not share the faith of those who did listen. 3 We, however, who have faith, are entering a place of rest, as in the text: And then in my anger I swore that they would never enter my place of rest. Now God’s work was all finished at the beginning of the world; 4 as one text says, referring to the seventh day: And God rested on the seventh day after all the work he had been doing. 5 And, again, the passage above says: They will never reach my place of rest. 6 It remains the case, then, that there would be some people who would reach it, and since those who first heard the good news were prevented from entering by their refusal to believe, 7 God fixed another day, a Today, when he said through David in the text already quoted: If only you would listen to him today; do not harden your hearts. 8 If Joshua had led them into this place of rest, God would not later have spoken of another day. 9 There must still be, therefore, a seventh-day rest reserved for God’s people, 10 since to enter the place of rest is to rest after your work, as God did after his. 11 Let us, then, press forward to enter this place of rest, or some of you might copy this example of refusal to believe and be lost. 12 The word of God is something alive and active: it cuts more incisively than any two-edged sword: it can seek out the place where soul is divided from spirit, or joints from marrow; it can pass judgement on secret emotions and thoughts. 13 No created thing is hidden from him; everything is uncovered and stretched fully open to the eyes of the one to whom we must give account of ourselves. (Hebrews 4:1-13)
if we have love and then live for pleasure or money or fame or other motives what’s the truth the scripture say many things, many contradictions. Could the people that wrote it down got it wrong? What’s the most important thing, love right , what are signs of love, jesus said you would know his disciples by their love for one another.
The problem is that man’s love is not God’s Love; Jesus tells us that there’s no greater Love than He who gives His life for His friends… here’s St. Paul’s definition of Love:

4 Love is always patient and kind; love is never jealous; love is not boastful or conceited, 5 it is never rude and never seeks its own advantage, it does not take offence or store up grievances. 6 Love does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but finds its joy in the truth. 7 It is always ready to make allowances, to trust, to hope and to endure whatever comes. 8 Love never comes to an end. But if there are prophecies, they will be done away with; if tongues, they will fall silent; and if knowledge, it will be done away with. 9 For we know only imperfectly, and we prophesy imperfectly; 10 but once perfection comes, all imperfect things will be done away with. 11 When I was a child, I used to talk like a child, and see things as a child does, and think like a child; but now that I have become an adult, I have finished with all childish ways. 12 Now we see only reflections in a mirror, mere riddles, but then we shall be seeing face to face. Now I can know only imperfectly; but then I shall know just as fully as I am myself known. 13 As it is, these remain: faith, hope and love, the three of them; and the greatest of them is love. (1 Corinthians 13:4-13)
I know we are to interpret scripture thruogh the magistirum, tradition and the bible, but I don’t uderstand what the church teach’s in her writing’s the protestant have commentaires, they are easily read and cover the entire scriptue not portions our cathechism doesn’t qoute much scripture or explain what was meant or the context in which the author’s were referencing when writing.
Peace, Grace, Joy
…ever heard of the Holy Mass? Every single day the Church makes known the Word of God and the Celebrant Priest offers a Homily which speaks on the Written Word of God from his direct perspective, in accordance with the Doctrine of the Church.

You can also joing a Bible Study in your parish–if none exists, you can organize one with the support of your Priest.

Maran atha!

Angel

Peace, Grace, Joy
 
If he is the Alpha and the Omega the begining and the end then why does he tell people to Pray to the Father and why does he say through himself he can do nothing, only what the Father allows, and he siad Abba Father why have you forsaken me why would he say into your hands I commend my spirit, Yes I’ve heard of the trinity and the mystery of God, but many people claim Jesus and a prophet, who is healing the hindu, the muslim, the buddist, the atheist when they get sick?
Jesus is God, and He said so in various ways. Here is one of them.

Jesus said that where two or more are gathered in His name, He is there in their midst. That is a very Old Testament and Jewish way of saying that He is God. In the OT, God is present in so many ways and in so many manifestations. For example, He was in the burning bush, speaking to Moses. He was in the tent of meeting, in the Holy of Holies. His presence was manifested by the cloud of smoke.

To say that He can be in the midst of any two or more people gathered in His name is to claim to be the divine presence expressed in the Old Testament.

The Hebrew word in the Jewish Bible Commentary (Talmud) for the presence of God is Shechinah. Jesus imputed the Shechinah to Himself.

One of the shorter and most familiar allusions to the Shechinah in the Mass are the words of the priest “The Lord be with you” – the presence of God What a blessing!
 
One of the shorter and most familiar allusions to the Shechinah in the Mass are the words of the priest “The Lord be with you” – the presence of God What a blessing!
When I think of what God asked of the people in the OT and NT when He said that “He would be with them”, Moses and Gilead and (of course) Mary, all I could do is offer of a bow of humbleness when I say, “And also with you”. I think of those words every time I hear them at Mass.
 
Reading scripture can be very confusing, which is one of the many reasons I am so very happy I am Catholic. You have to remember that the nature of the Trinity is equal but not identical, and God existed as the Trinity long before man was around to question what or who he/they should be. If you think of the father/son relationship, the son must be obedient to the father and must love the father, and the father must love the son. The son is not less than the father because he is the son. He is just who he is, but for the Trinity that father/son relationship has existed through out all of eternity. That is just who he/they are. We are imaged after God, not God after us. We need to understand our sonship, obedience issues, etc through the example that Christ gave us, not judge the worthiness or greatness of Christ by how we perceive the son/father relationship. Christ is stating that the Father allows him to act, because in his capacity as the Son of God made human, the Son is understanding the world through the eyes of the father, through prayer and faith. We do not completely understand the inner knowledge of Jesus while on this Earth. We can only listen to him and try to glean some knowledge about the inner nature of the Trinity. Thank God, however, that you are searching. That is where understanding starts, if your heart is open to God.
 
Reading scripture can be very confusing, which is one of the many reasons I am so very happy I am Catholic. You have to remember that the nature of the Trinity is equal but not identical, and God existed as the Trinity long before man was around to question what or who he/they should be. If you think of the father/son relationship, the son must be obedient to the father and must love the father, and the father must love the son. The son is not less than the father because he is the son. He is just who he is, but for the Trinity that father/son relationship has existed through out all of eternity. That is just who he/they are. We are imaged after God, not God after us. We need to understand our sonship, obedience issues, etc through the example that Christ gave us, not judge the worthiness or greatness of Christ by how we perceive the son/father relationship. Christ is stating that the Father allows him to act, because in his capacity as the Son of God made human, the Son is understanding the world through the eyes of the father, through prayer and faith. We do not completely understand the inner knowledge of Jesus while on this Earth. We can only listen to him and try to glean some knowledge about the inner nature of the Trinity. Thank God, however, that you are searching. That is where understanding starts, if your heart is open to God.
Hi, JoAnneBudi!

Excellent post! :cool:

…and welcome to the forum!

Coincidentally, there are passages in the Holy Scriptures that demonstrate Jesus’ Divinity and suggest that He is equal to or greater than the Father… one such example is when He Promises to send the other Paraclete–He is exact in telling the disciples that He must return to the Father in order for the Holy Spirit to be sent to the Church… I am not claiming that Jesus is greater than the Father, I completely agree with your statement; I am simply suggesting that from Scriptures it could be implied that unless Jesus sends the Holy Spirit, He will not be with the Church, which in turn implies that He, Jesus, is greater than both the Holy Spirit and the Father…

Sadly, due to our finite understanding we want to place God in a hierarchy system because that is the way we undestand this world!

Maran atha!

Angel
 
Yes, Jesus is God…but a distict person from the Father and a distict person from the Holy Spirit. They are of one essence but distict from each other. God is a trinity of persons, and Jesus is the second person of the trinity, while His Father is the first (and the Holy Spirit is the third.)
 
Not Worthy,
Excuse me. My post was directed to the author of the post. I think he called himself, FCCGM

God bless,
jean8
Ah, I see. But I think in your original post
not worthy,
Yes , Jesus is God. See Jn.8:58, Col.1:15–20, Jn.1:1-3
Please reply. 🙂
You may have mis-spelled FCCGM. No problem, it could happen to anyone! 😉
 
The simple answer is no, Jesus is not God. BUT, He and the Father are One as Jesus said. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahshua; not the same. Jesus’ authority and power came from the Father; He always deferred to His Father’s wishes. Consider this: God (the Father) knows everything, yet Jesus (the Son) does not know when He is returning.
 
The simple answer is no, Jesus is not God. BUT, He and the Father are One as Jesus said. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahshua; not the same. Jesus’ authority and power came from the Father; He always deferred to His Father’s wishes. Consider this: God (the Father) knows everything, yet Jesus (the Son) does not know when He is returning.
To narrow it down to this, as meaning Jesus is not God is well, narrow-minded.

For instance, look at Jesus’ word’s, “I am the Light of the World…” in context of Psalm 27 - The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom do I fear? ***The LORD is my life’s refuge; of whom am I afraid?

You’ll see Jesus’ divinity every time you read the psalms. Such as the psalms that say, and I’m paraphrasing, “Who alone but God treads the waters” and “God alone can calm the seas”.

Yes, it is the Old Testament that screams out Jesus’ Divinity.
 
The simple answer is no, Jesus is not God. BUT, He and the Father are One as Jesus said. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahshua; not the same. Jesus’ authority and power came from the Father; He always deferred to His Father’s wishes. Consider this: God (the Father) knows everything, yet Jesus (the Son) does not know when He is returning.
TJ,
Your wrong. 🙂
See Jn.8:58. It will tell you what Jesus has to say about this.

Jn.1:1-3 reads “In the begining was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2.He was with God in the beginning. 3. Through Him alll things were made.”

Now you can go to Col.1:15 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.16. For by Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisilbe, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities, all things were created by Him and for Him.”
Who is God? Keep in mind, there is only one God.
Please get your study Bible out and see. 🙂

God bless,
jean8
 
The simple answer is no, Jesus is not God. BUT, He and the Father are One as Jesus said. The Father is Yahweh, the Son is Yahshua; not the same. Jesus’ authority and power came from the Father; He always deferred to His Father’s wishes. Consider this: God (the Father) knows everything, yet Jesus (the Son) does not know when He is returning.
I think you are confused… the Lamb of God, the Word Incarnate, did not come to share His Divinity but to teach and die; hence, when matters of God’s knowledge, the Son of Man, would always acquiesce to the Father’s Authority:

St. John 14:10
Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

13But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. 14He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. 15All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. (St. John 16:13-15)

5Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature** of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death—
even death on a cross! (Philippians 2:5-8)

13while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, 14who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good. (Titus 2:13-14)

5For to which of the angels did God ever say,
“You are my Son;
today I have become your Father”? Or again,
“I will be his Father,
and he will be my Son”? 6And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says,
“Let all God’s angels worship him.” 7In speaking of the angels he says,
“He makes his angels winds,
his servants flames of fire.” 8But about the Son he says,
“Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
9You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy.” 10He also says,
“In the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth,
and the heavens are the work of your hands.
11They will perish, but you remain;
they will all wear out like a garment.
12You will roll them up like a robe;
like a garment they will be changed.
But you remain the same,
and your years will never end.” 13To which of the angels did God ever say,
“Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet”? (Hebrews 1:5-13)

1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. (St. John 1:1-4)

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. (Isaiah 9:6)

1After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi[a] from the east came to Jerusalem 2and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east** and have come to worship him.”
10When they saw the star, they were overjoyed. 11On coming to the house, they saw the child with his mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped him. Then they opened their treasures and presented him with gifts of gold and of incense and of myrrh. (St. Matthew 2:1-2, 10-11–compare with 1 Samuel 8:6-7)

Maran atha!

Angel****
 
The Bible is clear: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” (John 1:1). We know Jesus is the Word because John 1:14 tells us, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us.” God the Father was not made flesh; it was Jesus. Jesus is the Word, the Word is God, therefore Jesus is God.
im a catholic. but a minister of Iglesia Ni Christo (Church of Christ) told me the meaning of that verse… and according to them its like this>>> “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God” because its God’s words, that’s the reason the word was in the beginning. “and the Word was God” it is God’s word so it is GODLY, not GOD. there is only one God, that’s the Father. if the “Father” is the “Son” then in Exodus God said he will send his Son, So if that God was also the Son Jesus, who will Jesus send? God said he will send his Son, Jesus have a Son?

well, that’s what they told me…repeatedly… whahaha… anyways… any comment?

and oh, i also posted one of their “Pasugo-Mail box” issue… comment on that too huh…
 
“and the Word was God” it is God’s word so it is GODLY, not GOD. there is only one God, that’s the Father.
So you’re friend has to re-write Scripture in order to prove his point? What kind of proof is that?

I believe it says, “…and the Word was with God and the Word was God…” - not “the Word was Godly…” or “The Word was Of God”.

You’re friend is coming up with answers and then twisting Scripture to fit those answers - a problem that many people seem to have.
 
im a catholic. but a minister of Iglesia Ni Christo (Church of Christ) told me the meaning of that verse… and according to them its like this>>> “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God” because its God’s words, that’s the reason the word was in the beginning. “and the Word was God” it is God’s word so it is GODLY, not GOD. there is only one God, that’s the Father. if the “Father” is the “Son” then in Exodus God said he will send his Son, So if that God was also the Son Jesus, who will Jesus send? God said he will send his Son, Jesus have a Son?

well, that’s what they told me…repeatedly… whahaha… anyways… any comment?

and oh, i also posted one of their “Pasugo-Mail box” issue… comment on that too huh…
I’m a pedestrian Catholic (know the Faith through hard-knocks not scholarly achievements) and I can tell you that the Jehovah Witnesses spin that same passage to mean that “logos” the word was created and as a created being was made a god who was with God but not truly God but a god… follow my jest?

Many choose to ignore the whole of the Sacred Scriptures in favor of a few verses which they can twist and turn to their comfortable and preconceived meaning…

Yahweh God never promised that He would send His Son in Exodus–if we quote the Scriptures correctly we find that He promised to send a Prophet like Moses (Moses was made like a god to the Pharaoh (Egypt) and the Hebrews (Israel), he was in the likeness of the high priest, he was as a king, and he was as a judge and prophet); but, unlike Jesus, Moses would would forever be a servant and would never share His Glory (Power, Authority, Being–see Isaiah 9:6-7).

Sadly, these confused brethren think that the revelation given to St. John is simply a statement about God speaking and thus creating; this has two very important flaws: it demonstrates that God did not have the power to do things as Scriptures say (“I alone…”), and it contradicts Scriptures since the Holy Spirit revealed to St. Paul that we were elected in Christ Jesus before the beginning of Creation!

They further compromise themselves because they assume that once the Word is revealed as God (the Son) He takes away the existence of God (the Father) who was with the Word from the Beginning. They also ignore Yahweh God’s own revelation that He is Forever God and that in Him there is no change! Yahweh God can only be a liar if the Word, who is God, and the Holy Spirit, who is also God, are created later on in some sort of pre-Creation phase to assist Him with Creation and Salvation:

**10 You yourselves are my witnesses, declares Yahweh, and the servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that it is I. No god was formed before me, nor will be after me. 11 I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Saviour but me. 12 I have revealed, have saved, and have proclaimed, not some foreigner among you. You are my witnesses, declares Yahweh, I am God, 13 yes, from eternity I am. No one can deliver from my hand; when I act, who can thwart me? 14 Thus says Yahweh, your redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: ** (Isaiah 43:10-14a)

Now, if Yahweh God (the Father) is the Holy One, and Jesus is nothing why is Scripture so adamant about calling Him (Jesus) the Holy One?:

The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you with its shadow. And so the child will be holy and will be called Son of God. (St. Luke 1:35)

**‘Ha! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are: the Holy One of God.’ ** (St. Luke 4:34)

**68 Simon Peter answered, ‘Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the message of eternal life, 69 and we believe; we have come to know that you are the Holy One of God.’ **(St. John 6:68-69)

**It was you who accused the Holy and Upright One, you who demanded that a murderer should be released to you **(Acts 3:14)

This is also why it says in another text: You will not allow your Holy One to see corruption. (Acts 13:35)

But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and have all received knowledge. (1 St. John 2:20)

When we read a verse or several verses of Scriptures and we divorce it/them from the rest of the Sacred Writings it is easy to misconstrue the meaning of God’s Word. Sadly, many of these misunderstandings are not simply due to genuine ignorance or misguided fervor.

Before you set your heart on ecumenism with “Christians” who have an innovative way of reading/interpreting Scriptures, learn your Faith in light of the Church’s Doctrines.

Maran atha!

Angel
 
wow nice feedback on my comment… heheh… anywayz, they told me (The Church of Christ “I.N.C”), if Jesus is God, and there is only 1 God, it means, Jesus is also the Father, rite? then why is it that when ever Jesus Pray to God, he dont pray to him self? why is it the Father the Father the Father? why not Me,Me,Me? God’s power comes from no one, Jesus’ powers comes from the Father. God don’t get hurt, and Jesus suffered, God don’t die, Jesus died. Jesus was raised to the dead, he didn’t raised him self. God dont weep Jesus wept. God has a son, Jesus dont have a son. Jesus teach that there is only one God, he didn’t teach there is 3 persona of God. the only good thing catholics teach is “do a good”, every thing else is a lie. Jesus will tell you Catholics that “I dont know you”. the way to God is trough the Son, Not “the way to God is trough God”. Catholics invented their church when the last apostle died. God knows everthing, Jesus doesnt know everything (he dont know when he will return).

thats it for now… cant remember other things they told me.
 
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wow nice feedback on my comment… heheh… anywayz, they told me (The Church of Christ “I.N.C”), if Jesus is God, and there is only 1 God, it means, Jesus is also the Father, rite? then why is it that when ever Jesus Pray to God, he dont pray to him self? why is it the Father the Father the Father? why not Me,Me,Me? God’s power comes from no one, Jesus’ powers comes from the Father. God don’t get hurt, and Jesus suffered, God don’t die, Jesus died. Jesus was raised to the dead, he didn’t raised him self. God dont weep Jesus wept. God has a son, Jesus dont have a son. Jesus teach that there is only one God, he didn’t teach there is 3 persona of God. the only good thing catholics teach is “do a good”, every thing else is a lie. Jesus will tell you Catholics that “I dont know you”. the way to God is trough the Son, Not “the way to God is trough God”. Catholics invented their church when the last apostle died. God knows everthing, Jesus doesnt know everything (he dont know when he will return).

thats it for now… cant remember other things they told me.
First off If your catholic, stop going to a Church of Christ. They are on crack when it comes to Doctrine. They believe you have to speak in Tounges to be saved and a whole bunch of other against the bible Doctrines.

Second, Jesus and God are the same person. get over it. Stop listening to Half cracked preachers and listen to the word of God Spoken through the prophets trusted to the Catholic church. Then you will get the whole truth and nothing but the Truth.
 
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