Is Judas in heaven?

[Fragile]

…really, I must be reading the wrong Bibles… I cannot recall where a Bible said exactly what you have stated.

Correct! …was it St. Paul that mentioned that while we were yet sinners Christ died?

Hard to imagine Christ claiming to come to the lost sheep and when He finds one, He uses it and then discards it.

Exactly! You, and others, keep ignoring what Christ knew from the Beginning and that as a Just and Merciful God He simply allowed Judas to fulfill his obligation, and, as ignorant of Christ’s Mercy as he was, singled him out for damnation after his tremendous contribution to God’s Salvific Plan… yeah, that Christ guy is a real generous soul!

Maran atha!

Angel

Your exegesis of scripture is woefully wanting!

 

[Fragile]

God also allowed Pharaoh to fulfill His plans, yet he was still culpable for his actions. Pharaoh hardened his heart, God confirmed his choices…same w/Judas. Christ indeed died for us while we were yet sinners, but to the reprobate who will not repent, to those who go on sinning willfully, no sacrifice for sin remains.

 

[jcrichton]

I believe it has long been tradition (small ‘t’) that this is what happened. Augustine of Hippo, for example, said this is what happened.

When I first read the death of Judas in Acts (“guts spilling out”), I personally saw it as an exaggeration of his death due to Judas’ evilness. Putting such an image in people’s minds as someone jumping from a cliff and falling so that his bowels and intestines come out obviously leaves a lasting impression. Just my opinion, though.

…I respect the opinions/findings of those who preceded us in the Faith but I tend to make a distiction between Teaching and personal findings/conclusions; ie: Jesus’ writings on the floor when presented with the “adulterous” woman and Paul’s falling from “a horse” at Jesus’ appearance…

Augustine of Hippo’s take on Judas’ fate further demonstrates the seriousness of Judas’ treacherous act which serves to separate him from most if not all sinners from Adam till Judgment Day… it is the seriousness of event that seems to accent the absence of Christ’s concern for Judas… if Jesus was generous enough to pray for His Disciples, and Peter in particular, why does He seem to be unconcern for the least of the lambs whose fate was sealed even before he was born?

…I also find it difficult that many seem to jump at the chance to hold Judas accountable for a spiritual awareness that he, as attested by Scriptures, lacked; it is as though we did not learn anything from Christ’s parable of the workers who had been hired in exchange for a specific salary not on the merit of their abilities or achievements but on the generosity of the employer!

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

Your exegesis of scripture is woefully wanting!

…it may well be that my pedestrian mind cannot but find that it is God who can determine if I or anyone else has indeed merited eternal damnation… clearly, I’m a child when it comes to determining where God’s limitations and bounderies are found… as it was onced coined “mea culpa!” :bowdown2::bowdown2::bowdown2:

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[jcrichton]

God also allowed Pharaoh to fulfill His plans, yet he was still culpable for his actions. Pharaoh hardened his heart, God confirmed his choices…same w/Judas. Christ indeed died for us while we were yet sinners, but to the reprobate who will not repent, to those who go on sinning willfully, no sacrifice for sin remains.

…as all those who came before the full manifestation of God’s Salvific Plan–those who died in ignorance and were visited by Christ, in the Spirit, between the period ranging from His Death and Resurrection…

Maran atha!

Angel

 

[Aaron_Creagh]

I think this is impossible for any of us to answer.

On one hand, the bible says that he repented because he realized he committed a grave sin. Did he truly repent to God, or did he simply have regrets afterward?

If he asked for forgiveness and was sincere, I believe that he made it. But did he ask God to be forgiven?

???