Is Judas one of the original Twelve Apostles, as they are understood in the prophecies of the Lord and in Apocalypse?

[thistle]

Yes, it would be this prophecy.
It is the larger question indeed, but not mine I just would like to know if sitting there is the betrayer or Matthias.
As for your question, I found that it would be the Apostles, pluis 12 other from the Church, so to show the beginning and the end, or the 24 courses of priests in Chroniles,or again 24 divisions of singers.

This however doesn’t tell us, whether Judas is one of them or not.

"Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of man shall sit on his glorious throne, **you who have followed me **will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28)”

I hardly think Judas would be counted here. He did not follow him. He betrayed him. All the others including his replacement followed Jesus to the end.

 

[petra22]

"Jesus said to them, “Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of man shall sit on his glorious throne, **you who have followed me **will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matthew 19:28)”

I hardly think Judas would be counted here. He did not follow him. He betrayed him. All the others including his replacement followed Jesus to the end.

That sums it up!

 

[Nita]

THank you, but this doesn’t answer the question. Will Judas be among the Twelve on Judgement Day, as prophecised, or will it be Matthias?

Mt. 19:28 Jesus said to them, "Truly, I say to you, in the new world, when the Son of man shall sit on his glorious throne, you **who have followed me **will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Judas did not “follow” Jesus; he abandoned Him.