Is justification the same thing as Baptism?

[De_Maria]

Baptism is said to confer justification. But when does the process of justification begin?

 

[rwoehmke]

It begins when one is Baptized and continues to be worked out over one’s lifetime. Baptism is the ordinary minimum, but through unrepented sin, one can throw salvation away, can reject it.

 

[De_Maria]

It begins when one is Baptized and continues to be worked out over one’s lifetime. Baptism is the ordinary minimum, but through unrepented sin, one can throw salvation away, can reject it.

[1989](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/1989.htm’) The first work of the grace of the Holy Spirit is conversion, effecting justification in accordance with Jesus’ proclamation at the beginning of the Gospel: "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."38 Moved by grace, man turns toward God and away from sin, thus accepting forgiveness and righteousness from on high. "Justification is not only the remission of sins, but also the sanctification and renewal of the interior man.39

[1990](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/1990.htm’) Justification detaches man from sin which contradicts the love of God, and purifies his heart of sin. Justification follows upon God’s merciful initiative of offering forgiveness. It reconciles man with God. It frees from the enslavement to sin, and it heals.

[1991](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/1991.htm’) Justification is at the same time the acceptance of God’s righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ. Righteousness (or “justice”) here means the rectitude of divine love. With justification, faith, hope, and charity are poured into our hearts, and obedience to the divine will is granted us.

[1992](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/1992.htm’) Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life:40

These statements from the Catechism seem to say that Justification begins at conversion.

 

[BRB1]

[1989](javascriptpenWindow(‘cr/1989.htm’) Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life:40

These statements from the Catechism seem to say that Justification begins at conversion.

Yes …

Look at the various accounts in Book of Acts. In some cases H.S. came on the convert BEFORE baptism was received. In other cases water baptism appears to have conferred H.S. (justification). In Paul’s case he received H.S. by laying on of hands … and immediatedly thereafter received water baptism.

Recall, Cornelius and family [Gentiles] believed and received H.S. BEFORE Peter had opportunity to baptize them.

Still, water baptism is the normative means of conferring grace of justification on a convert … but, not always. God reserves the right to do it however he choses.

 

[DLC]

Read romans 5:1 for the answer

 

[Randy_Carson]

Baptism is said to confer justification. But when does the process of justification begin?

First, a definition:

“Justification is a translation from that state in which a man is born a child of Adam, to the state of grace and of the adoption of sons of God through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Savior.”

Next, it is important to understand that Catholics speak of initial justification, progressive justification and final justification. We also speak of “re-justification” for those who have lost their justification through mortal sin.

Now to answer your question directly: We become Christians and are first justified when we repent, believe and receive baptism. Baptism is not an afterthought; it is essential to salvation itself for scripture tells us, “Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death” (Romans 6:3) and “For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.” (Galatians 3:27)

The translation of initial justification occurs when we are baptized into Christ.

 

[BRB1]

First, a definition:

“Justification is a translation from that state in which a man is born a child of Adam, to the state of grace and of the adoption of sons of God through the second Adam, Jesus Christ, our Savior.”

Next, it is important to understand that Catholics speak of initial justification, progressive justification and final justification. We also speak of “re-justification” for those who have lost their justification through mortal sin.

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So, at what point in justification can one be gifted with H.S. ? Initial, progessive, or final ?

The reason I ask is : Paul received H.S. via annointing of hands… and then was baptized. Converts at Pentecost received H…S. as direct gift from God,… and thereafter, we may presume received baptism. Cornelius and family received H.S. by Peter’s preaching alone … and then were baptized.

Disciples of John had recieved baptism into [repentance, and in name of Christ only] … they had yet to receive H.S. Paul re-baptized them with Trinitarian liturgy. But, they only received H.S. thereafter, when Paul laid hands on them.

Recall Christ said that while John baptized with water … Christ would baptize with H.S.

So, seems like Christ baptizes spiritually … from preaching [faith alone], from annointing with hands, or from water baptism.