Is Lent Over?

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I have a question about whether or not I can now have the thing that I gave up for Lent. My RCIA instructor said yesterday that Lent is over. I just want to know if I can really start having sweets again or if I have to wait for Easter Sunday?

I am still learning, please be patient with me.

McCoypt
 
No Lent isn’t over until Holy Thursday. I have heard it said that it is technically over when the Mass of the Lord’s Supper starts. Not sure about that level of technicality. But Holy Thursday starts the Tridium which is also a penetential season - even more so then Lent itself so it generally isn’t “done” to give up your penance until Easter - or at least when you get home from Vigil Mass. 😃
 
I have a question about whether or not I can now have the thing that I gave up for Lent. My RCIA instructor said yesterday that Lent is over. I just want to know if I can really start having sweets again or if I have to wait for Easter Sunday?

I am still learning, please be patient with me.

McCoypt
It’s Holy Week, which is either a continuation and deepening of Lent, or its own Penitential Season, depending on who you ask (same thing with the Triduum - is it a separate season, or is it part of Lent?)

Anyway, to your question about penance - no, your Lenten Penance, whatever you have chosen for that to be, ends at midnight on Saturday. 🙂

PS: And don’t forget that Good Friday and Holy Saturday are days of fasting for those who are entering the Church. Good Friday is a day of fasting for all healthy adults between the ages of 14 and 59.
 
I have a question about whether or not I can now have the thing that I gave up for Lent. My RCIA instructor said yesterday that Lent is over. I just want to know if I can really start having sweets again or if I have to wait for Easter Sunday?

I am still learning, please be patient with me.

McCoypt
Your instructor was wrong. It is not over yet. Maundy Thursday or as it is also known Holy Thursday is the end of Lent and the start of the Easter Tridum.

You are almost home free but not quite!👍 👍
 
It’s Holy Week, which is either a continuation and deepening of Lent, or its own Penitential Season, depending on who you ask (same thing with the Triduum - is it a separate season, or is it part of Lent?)

Anyway, to your question about penance - no, your Lenten Penance, whatever you have chosen for that to be, ends at midnight on Saturday. 🙂
Actually, it is over at the beginning of the Easter Vigil Mass on Saturday night. That Mass is the first Mass of Easter, and with it, the celebration of the Ressurection begins.
 
Actually, it is over at the beginning of the Easter Vigil Mass on Saturday night. That Mass is the first Mass of Easter, and with it, the celebration of the Ressurection begins.
Yes, but we are in Church, and fasting for Holy Communion at that time. 😉

At the end of that Mass (at around midnight or so) we get to break into our Easter baskets and eat all the chocolate bunnies. 😃
 
Well, let’s ignore the liturgists who have been playing fast and loose with this business and just count the forty days of Lent. We all know that Sunday is a Sabbath Festival Day so is not counted as a Penitential Day, thus from Ash Wednesday to Saturday, count four days; Monday through Saturday count six days for six weeks and we have a total of forty days of Lent.
Lent should, therefore end at sundown or midnight of Saturday of Holy Week. This depends on how you count days. They are either from sundown to sundown (the Jewish way) or midnight to midnight (the Roman way).

Matthew
 
Well, let’s ignore the liturgists who have been playing fast and loose with this business and just count the forty days of Lent. We all know that Sunday is a Sabbath Festival Day so is not counted as a Penitential Day, thus from Ash Wednesday to Saturday, count four days; Monday through Saturday count six days for six weeks and we have a total of forty days of Lent.
Lent should, therefore end at sundown or midnight of Saturday of Holy Week. This depends on how you count days. They are either from sundown to sundown (the Jewish way) or midnight to midnight (the Roman way).

Matthew
Thank you Matthew for reaffirming what everyone else ignored; The Truth!
 
Well, let’s ignore the liturgists who have been playing fast and loose with this business and just count the forty days of Lent. We all know that Sunday is a Sabbath Festival Day so is not counted as a Penitential Day, thus from Ash Wednesday to Saturday, count four days; Monday through Saturday count six days for six weeks and we have a total of forty days of Lent.
Lent should, therefore end at sundown or midnight of Saturday of Holy Week. This depends on how you count days. They are either from sundown to sundown (the Jewish way) or midnight to midnight (the Roman way).

Matthew
A wonderful response. I have been having a “debate” all morning with someone about this very topic and finally ended it with
The answer is – you break Lenten fast / penance / abstinence on Saturday after attending the Vigil or Saturday at midnight (whichever comes first).
Triduum is a deepening of Lent.
No more Jesuit intellectual sophistry allowed.
I like your response much better. 👍
 
I have a question about whether or not I can now have the thing that I gave up for Lent. My RCIA instructor said yesterday that Lent is over. I just want to know if I can really start having sweets again or if I have to wait for Easter Sunday?

I am still learning, please be patient with me.

McCoypt
Eating sweets is often sin of gluttony.
 
Lets not get scrupulous -not to mention that was not the question asked.
“Pope Innocent XI has condemned the proposition which asserts that it is not a sin to eat or to drink from the sole motive of satisfying the palate. However, it is not a fault to feel pleasure in eating: for it is, generally speaking, impossible to eat without experiencing the delight which food naturally produces. But it is a defect to eat, like beasts, through the sole motive of sensual gratification, and without any reasonable object. Hence, the most delicious meats may be eaten without sin, if the motive be good and worthy of a rational creature; and, in taking the coarsest food through attachment to pleasure, there may be a fault.”

From: books.google.com/books?id=srPUGnO3xs4C&pg=PA282&dq=Innocent+XI+has+condemned+the+proposition+which+asserts,&as_brr=1

In most cases (at least in my case) the only reason people eat candy is through attachment to pleasure.
 
In the Byzantine use, Great Lent proper actually ends with the Ninth Hour on the Friday before Palm Sunday.

Holy Week begins with the Presanctified Liturgy–or Vespers–on that day.

The Lenten form of the office ends with the Presanctified on Wednesday of Holy Week.

The FAST, however, does not end until Communion on Pascha.
 
“Pope Innocent XI has condemned the proposition which asserts that it is not a sin to eat or to drink from the sole motive of satisfying the palate. However, it is not a fault to feel pleasure in eating: for it is, generally speaking, impossible to eat without experiencing the delight which food naturally produces. But it is a defect to eat, like beasts, through the sole motive of sensual gratification, and without any reasonable object. Hence, the most delicious meats may be eaten without sin, if the motive be good and worthy of a rational creature; and, in taking the coarsest food through attachment to pleasure, there may be a fault.”

From: books.google.com/books?id=srPUGnO3xs4C&pg=PA282&dq=Innocent+XI+has+condemned+the+proposition+which+asserts,&as_brr=1

In most cases (at least in my case) the only reason people eat candy is through attachment to pleasure.
Wow than all those Rosary Society bake sales (with all those cookies, brownies, fudge, cakes and other sweets) and children’s Christmas party at out parish must be promoting sin.:rolleyes: Not too mention those CCD teachers passing out candy to the kids for rewards. Oh and the candy our priest gave to our daughter after meeting us for the first time when we joined the parish -I guess that was sinful too.

Gluttony is about excessiveness.
 
Wow than all those Rosary Society bake sales (with all those cookies, brownies, fudge, cakes and other sweets) and children’s Christmas party at out parish must be promoting sin.:rolleyes: Not too mention those CCD teachers passing out candy to the kids for rewards. Oh and the candy our priest gave to our daughter after meeting us for the first time when we joined the parish -I guess that was sinful too.

Gluttony is about excessiveness.
"In the lives of the Fathers it is related that, though the same food was served to all the monks of acertain monastery, a holy bishop saw some of them feasting on honey, others on bread, and others on mire. By this vision he was given to understand, that the first eat with a holy fear of violating temperance, and were accustomed, at meals, to raise their souls to God by holy aspirations: that the second felt some delight in eating, but still returned thanks to God for his benefits; and, that the third eat for the **mere gratification of the taste. **

books.google.com/books?id=srPUGnO3xs4C&pg=PA282&dq=Innocent+XI+has+condemned+the+proposition+which+asserts,&as_brr=1#PPA282,M1

Gluttony not only consists in exceeding the adequate quantity of food, but also in seeking pleasure from food.
 
No Lent isn’t over until Holy Thursday. I have heard it said that it is technically over when the Mass of the Lord’s Supper starts. Not sure about that level of technicality. But Holy Thursday starts the Tridium which is also a penetential season - even more so then Lent itself so it generally isn’t “done” to give up your penance until Easter - or at least when you get home from Vigil Mass. 😃
That’s good patience, I had chocolate in my hand on the way out of the Easter Vigil 😊

That before hitting the free wine they were giving out in our Church bar (it’s also the local university’s Catholic Chaplaincy), if you can’t drink to celebrate the Resurrection, when can you I say (though being hungover Easter Sunday morning before getting to Mass is not such a good thing)
 
"In the lives of the Fathers it is related that, though the same food was served to all the monks of acertain monastery, a holy bishop saw some of them feasting on honey, others on bread, and others on mire. By this vision he was given to understand, that the first eat with a holy fear of violating temperance, and were accustomed, at meals, to raise their souls to God by holy aspirations: that the second felt some delight in eating, but still returned thanks to God for his benefits; and, that the third eat for the **mere gratification of the taste. **

books.google.com/books?id=srPUGnO3xs4C&pg=PA282&dq=Innocent+XI+has+condemned+the+proposition+which+asserts,&as_brr=1#PPA282,M1

Gluttony not only consists in exceeding the adequate quantity of food, but also in seeking pleasure from food.
So Jesus turned water into wine for the nutritional value?
 
Lent ends when the Mass on Holy Thursday starts. This is when the Triduum starts. i.e., the Holiest season of the Liturgical year.
Deacon Ed B
 
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