Is life after death necessary to follow Jesus?

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FOllowing on an idea in another thread- I pose the question. Imagine (hypothetically), there is no Heaven and Hell, no life after death. Would the teachings of Jesus still make sense?

Personally, I think the teachings of Jesus tell us the best way to live life, regardless of whether there is Heaven and Hell. I am interested if you still follow the commandments of Christ, even if you found out (hypothetically) there was no after life. I would…
 
yes,or why not just do what you want if here and now is it.
 
If you’re talking about emulating the values and the temperament of Jesus, then no, belief in the afterlife is not necessary. You can be an atheist and be a generally good person.

However, if you want to embrace the fullness of His message-the whole dying, rising again, and saving our souls part-yeah, an afterlife is kind of important.😉

Also, if you believe in justice, it’s hard to imagine that there is no justice after death, that this life is all there is.
 
If I were to find out tomorrow that there was nothing after this life, then it would be even more important to treat others in what we term a Christian manner-- after all, there would be no afterlife in which they would receive their due rewards, and only the kindness of this life would be experienced.
 
Some people without any religious upbringing are honest very caring people, while
others that call themselves Christian are scoundrels, so is life after death necessary,
no I don’t think so.
 
FOllowing on an idea in another thread- I pose the question. Imagine (hypothetically), there is no Heaven and Hell, no life after death. Would the teachings of Jesus still make sense?

Personally, I think the teachings of Jesus tell us the best way to live life, regardless of whether there is Heaven and Hell. I am interested if you still follow the commandments of Christ, even if you found out (hypothetically) there was no after life. I would…
One of the major focuses of Christianity would be lost without the belief in eternal salvation in the form of life after death. What would be the point of Jesus’ vicarious atonement for the sins of humanity by means of His suffering, death, and resurrection? On the other hand, one could still learn much from the moral teachings of Jesus: for example, such beautiful practices as loving thine enemy. I think Quakers would agree with the latter. The Torah provides a means of living a moral life, as Jesus knew very well. While Judaism generally does believe in an afterlife, its main focus is on leading a moral life here on Earth by acts of love and kindness.
 
If I were to find out tomorrow that there was nothing after this life, then it would be even more important to treat others in what we term a Christian manner-- after all, there would be no afterlife in which they would receive their due rewards, and only the kindness of this life would be experienced.
Great point! I think, in some ways, knowing that this life is all we have would make it even more precious. However, the lack of justice in such a situation is one of the things that disturb people, since many deserving people would NOT be treated kindly in this life.
 
Living in harmony with the world around us, including our fellow humans, is surely a part of the key to happiness during this life.

For example, if we decide we want to go around sleeping with whomever we choose, perhaps give the odd punch to people who offend us, steal the odd thing that we desire (sadly this kind of lifestyle is not all that rare) - we are bound to be heading eventually towards isolation, loneliness, in some cases guilt.

But to be truly inspired by Christ, I feel we need to move beyond what is simply good for us in this life. Until we drop this attachment to ourselves, how can we really feel connected with Christ?

When we really drop that attachment, then serving God becomes even more important than considerations of the after-life, and so in this sense there is truth in what you say. I also believe living in the hope of the after-life, rather than the expectation, offers us the opportunity to desire God in every moment rather than take Him for granted.

But the humanitarian goodness of an atheist, no matter how altruistic, is ultimately meaningless beyond poetry (if what he/she believes is true).

However, given the actual existence of God, even the goodness of an atheist is far from devoid of meaning, driven as we all our towards compassion and sympathy. In other words, God drives the desire to be good, and we can hop on board freely whether we believe He is driving or not.

That is not a commentary on atheists receiving salvation regardless of belief, that is a judgment far beyond my own opinion. It is simply saying we all share in the instinct to please God whether we know it or not. The fact people may deny that instinct is indicative of free will.
 
yes,or why not just do what you want if here and now is it.
I suppose Jesus teaching give us “life, and life to the full” in the here and now. If you lead an immoral life, it leads to misery and emptiness, in the here and now as well.

Even in the case of martydom, I think it would be living more fully to die for what you believe. Even if, in the end, it just dust to dust, ashes to ashes, the teachings of Jesus still make sense.
 
I suppose Jesus teaching give us “life, and life to the full” in the here and now. If you lead an immoral life, it leads to misery and emptiness, in the here and now as well.
Being this “hypothetical” is per impossibile there’s little to discuss, though your statement of “im/moral” life needs justification in such a world where all ‘thoughts’ (which an intellectually honest materialist will say ‘thoughts’ do not exist) are reduced to material functions in the brain and all acts are reduced to efficient causes which explain themselves without final causes, even though such things are absurd.
 
Being this “hypothetical” is per impossibile there’s little to discuss, though your statement of “im/moral” life needs justification in such a world where all “thoughts” are reduced to material functions in the brain and all acts are reduced to efficient causes which explain themselves without final causes, even though such things are absurd.
To put it in a simple terms- is it possible to convey the message of the Gospel to people who don’t believe (or are unsure) about the afterlife? Does the message of the Gospel stand if evluated only in the hinc et nunc.
 
To put it in a simple terms- is it possible to convey the message of the Gospel to people who don’t believe (or are unsure) about the afterlife? Does the message of the Gospel stand if evluated only in the hinc et nunc.
The pinnacle message is to reject the galmor of sin, detachment of everything to receive Being (the message is not reducible to the modernist view of “just be nice to everyone”). Without foundational understand of the immortality of the soul, which can be demonstrated as natural truth, I don’t see how/why one could/would practice such a narrow and difficult path.
 
FOllowing on an idea in another thread- I pose the question. Imagine (hypothetically), there is no Heaven and Hell, no life after death. Would the teachings of Jesus still make sense?
Excellent question, my friend! The answer is yes, because Jesus teaches Law.
He wants us and Him to experience a limitless happiness without anyone ever losing peace. Since we are imperfect, we will make mistakes in the process of living. In order to maintain peace, given mistakes which typically produce disturbance, we must be patient and kind in reaction to maintain the peace.
Since we desire the experience of happiness, we must be kind in order to achieve any level of happiness.

In His Crucifixion, Jesus shows us how to be perfectly patient and kind, even in the face of unjust impatience, meanness, and hatred. From His Crucifixion, He has shown the way to peace and happiness given a world of mistakes, including great selfishness.

Thoughts?
 
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