Is lust like masturbating without the 'touching?' Just a thought

[wworld]

Everything is in the title, and I don’t know what more to say.

 

[tvdxer]

If you mean the sin of lust, I think that gets to describing it.

Lust basically consists in the illicit consent to venereal (sexual) pleasure. That’s how it seems to have been defined for centuries by moral theologians. “Venereal” pleasure is the (physical?) sensation resulting from sexual arousal. Notice I said “consent to” and not “feeling of” - everybody experiences venereal pleasure. “Unindulged” venereal pleasure that sometimes arises is not lust. Consent and deliberation are the keys here.

As Fr. John Hardon so elegantly states:

While there is no “minimum limit” in matters of sex, so that the amount of carnal pleasure a person derives does not change the essential gravity of guilt, yet the degree of awareness of what he is doing and the fullness of volitional consent he gives make a great difference. Unless there is complete awareness of mind and full consent of the will a mortal sin is not committed, no matter how strong the pleasure or how long it lasts or what reactions take place in the body.

It cannot be overemphasized that venereal pleasure in itself is not sinful, otherwise married people could not indulge it and, in fact, have a sacrament instituted by Christ to regulate its enjoyment. Even in the unmarried, such pleasure is natural and responds to a divinely-implanted instinct whose purpose is the noble one of leading men and women to conceive and procreate children. It may last for hours without a shred of guilt. But for the unmarried it is wrong to yield to that pleasure in the sense of wanting it in the body by knowing it is there, consenting to its presence and enjoying the genital stimulation which it gives. All three elements must be verified to constitute sin for the unmarried. It is indifferent whether the pleasure is deliberately procured or arises spontaneously; what is forbidden is the intentional yielding to an excitation of the generative organs.

Source: therealpresence.org/archives/Moral_Theology/Moral_Theology_009.htm

 

[phineasandferb]

what is masturbation?

 

[FNDRB58]

Everything is in the title, and I don’t know what more to say.

Lust is a mortal sin if the lustful thought that pops into your head is indulged upon, whether by action or by giving in to the thought and thinking it some more. If you turn away from it the moment you realize you are lusting then you did a holy act and there is no sin. Its difficult to do but you can do it.

 

[thistle]

what is masturbation?

CCC 2351 Lust is disordered desire for or inordinate enjoyment of sexual pleasure. Sexual pleasure is morally disordered when sought for itself, isolated from its procreative and unitive purposes.

CCC 2352 By masturbation is to be understood the deliberate stimulation of the genital organs in order to derive sexual pleasure. “Both the Magisterium of the Church, in the course of a constant tradition, and the moral sense of the faithful have been in no doubt and have firmly maintained that masturbation is an intrinsically and gravely disordered action.” “The deliberate use of the sexual faculty, for whatever reason, outside of marriage is essentially contrary to its purpose.” For here sexual pleasure is sought outside of “the sexual relationship which is demanded by the moral order and in which the total meaning of mutual self-giving and human procreation in the context of true love is achieved.”