Is Michael Richards Catholic?

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On another thread, Saint Michael posted the following:
That is scary because I was in Bella’s debate yesterday trying to find Richard’s religon, I couldn’t find it anywhere. I read that Wiki ten times, there was nothing, now today it is updated to say he was raised Catholic? WOW very very odd to say the least. Someone made a point to say he’s Catholic after this episode.
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I took a look at the Wiki page myself and I noticed that the reference to him being Catholic is given from the following source:
According to sources familiar with Richards, the actor was raised Catholic. A biography of him on the Wikipedia web site lists no religion, but does say Richards is very involved in the Masons.
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This doesn’t sound like a very reliable source to me…
 
It is odd. I’ve heard one or two people say he was catholic. Most people here and across the web think he’s Jewish. It gets further complicated by the fact that he has been involved in some Jewish indie films and I think was involved with the King Davids of Comedy at the Hollywood Improv.

The only thing that is for sure is that he was a Freemason which he joined because his idol Red Skeleton was one.
 
The New York Times says he is from a Jewish background.

The New York Times says a lot of things. 👍
 
It’s not inconceivable that Michael Richards doesn’t really exist.😃
 
Honestly what does his statement have to do with Catholicism? I think he is jewish. What does his statement have to with Judaism?
 
Well it could be possible that his race is Jewish, was raised Catholic and then became a Freemason… very possible. So that would mean… “all of the above.” 😛
 
Atreyu said:
On another thread, Saint Michael posted the following:

I took a look at the Wiki page myself and I noticed that the reference to him being Catholic is given from the following source:

This doesn’t sound like a very reliable source to me…
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wikipedia updated the article yesterday based on the article that appeared in the Los Angeles Jewish Times (I think that’s what its called),
 
AlegreFe said:
Well it could be possible that his race is Jewish, was raised Catholic and then became a Freemason… very possible. So that would mean… “all of the above.” 😛
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(Judaism is not a race). It could be possible that he was born jewsh and raised catholic, became a freemason, dated a Hindu, worked for a Buddahist, and was always a racist.
 
Valke2 said:
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AlegreFe:
Well it could be possible
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that his race is Jewish, was raised Catholic and then became a Freemason… very possible. So that would mean… “all of the above.” 😛 (Judaism is not a race). It could be possible that he was born jewsh and raised catholic, became a freemason, dated a Hindu, worked for a Buddahist, and was always a racist.
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There, is that big enough for you. 😃 Do you see the word “Judaism” in my post? No. I didn’t say that. I said that it could be possible that “his race is Jewish” not Judaism.

Why don’t people ever seem to read my posts? :whacky:
 
AlegreFe said:
There, is that big enough for you. 😃 Do you see the word “Judaism” in my post? No. I didn’t say that. I said that it could be possible that “his race is Jewish” not Judaism.

Why don’t people ever seem to read my posts? :whacky:
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Jewish is not a race, either 😛
(if that’s what you meant) 🙂
 
AlegreFe said:
There, is that big enough for you. 😃 Do you see the word “Judaism” in my post? No. I didn’t say that. I said that it could be possible that “his race is Jewish” not Judaism.

Why don’t people ever seem to read my posts? :whacky:
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I did read your posts. Neither Judaism or Jewish is a race. There really isn’t a Jewish race. That’s a term that was originally adopted by anti-semites, like Hitler. As a way of attributing Jewish “traits” as something genetic/racial. I know that isn’t how you intended to imply, but it is a reason why some Jews take exception to being called a race.

My race is white/hispanic. I am Jewish because me religion and culture is Judaism.
 
Atreyu said:
On another thread, Saint Michael posted the following:

I took a look at the Wiki page myself and I noticed that the reference to him being Catholic is given from the following source:

This doesn’t sound like a very reliable source to me…
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Well, wikipedia is not the most reliable sourse on the earth…
I am sure of one thing. I didn’t like that he tried to say in his apology that he’s not a racist. The first thing that came into his head when he went on his diatribe was lynching. I think he needs to take a serious look at himself and wonder why that’s the first thing that came into his head. My mom says, “What’s said when drunk, has been thought out before.”
 
Valke2 said:
(Judaism is not a race). It could be possible that he was born jewsh and raised catholic, became a freemason, dated a Hindu, worked for a Buddahist, and was always a racist.
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:rotfl: This one get’s my vote.
 
Valke2 said:
HIs PR firm is saying he’s jewish.
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Valke2,
Even if he isn’t practicing his Jewish faith, would he still be considered Jewish if his mother was Jewish?? That is my understanding… if a person’s has a Jewish mother, they are Jewish - but not so if their mother is a Gentile even if their father is Jewish.

Not sure where I heard that… please correct me if I am wrong.
 
carol_marie said:
Valke2,
Even if he isn’t practicing his Jewish faith, would he still be considered Jewish if his mother was Jewish?? That is my understanding… if a person’s has a Jewish mother, they are Jewish - but not so if their mother is a Gentile even if their father is Jewish.

Not sure where I heard that… please correct me if I am wrong.
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**Who is a Jew? **

A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.
It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism?
This has been established since the earliest days of Judaism. In the Torah, you will see many references to “the strangers who dwell among you” or “righteous proselytes” or “righteous strangers.” These are various classifications of non-Jews who lived among Jews, adopting some or all of the beliefs and practices of Judaism without going through the formal process of conversion and becoming Jews. Once a person has converted to Judaism, he is not referred to by any special term; he is as much a Jew as anyone born Jewish.
Although all Jewish movements agree on these general principles, there are occasional disputes as to whether a particular individual is a Jew. Most of these disputes fall into one of two categories.
First, traditional Judaism maintains that a person is a Jew if his mother is a Jew, regardless of who his father is. The liberal movements, on the other hand, consider a person to be Jewish if either of his parents was Jewish and the child was raised Jewish. Thus, if the child of a Jewish father and a Christian mother is raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Reform movement, but not according to the Orthodox movement. On the other hand, if the child of a Christian father and a Jewish mother is not raised Jewish, the child is a Jew according to the Orthodox movement, but not according to the Reform movement! The matter becomes even more complicated, because the status of that children’s children also comes into question. Second, the more traditional movements do not always acknowledge the validity of conversions by the more liberal movements. The more modern movements do not always follow the procedures required by the more traditional movements, thereby invalidating the conversion. In addition, Orthodoxy does not accept the authority of Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist rabbis to perform conversions, and the Conservative movement has debated whether to accept the authority of Reform rabbis
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jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm
 
carol_marie said:
Valke2,
Even if he isn’t practicing his Jewish faith, would he still be considered Jewish if his mother was Jewish?? That is my understanding… if a person’s has a Jewish mother, they are Jewish - but not so if their mother is a Gentile even if their father is Jewish.

Not sure where I heard that… please correct me if I am wrong.
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Basically. But if he converted to Cathoclism or any other religion, he would essentially be cut off from Judaism. You can’t officially convert out of Judiasm but if you do you are viewed as renunciating Judaism, and would obviously be an apostate. He’s also be considered an idolater and, according to halacha, would not have a share in the world to come. Which is pretty harsh considering that we believe that a christian who did not convert from Judaism could have a share in the world to come.

And, while techinically still a Jew, a convert forfeits their legal and social rights under judaism.
 
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