Is Muhammad True Or False Prophet?

[Eden]

Muslim:

umm… the the answer to most of these questions would be ‘opinions’ and consdering your opinion on Islam I think what would the answers be…but lets not forget facts…
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was a descendent of Abraham just like Jesus and Moses (pbut).

Moses and Jesus were not Muslim.

Did Moses pray to Jerusalem or Mecca? Did Jesus? I gave both options since Muhammad prayed towards Jerusalem for the first 5 years of his prophethood, and later redirected his prayers towards Mecca.

And how about Passover? The yearly Passover ritual began the same year it was initiated in the 10th plague and continued uninterrupted for 1500 years. The weekly Lord’s supper ritual began the same week that Christ was crucified and has continued ever since for 2000 years. The Islamic rituals just come out of nowhere, 2600 years after Abraham lived. Are not the Jewish and Christian rituals more likely to be based on real history than the rituals of Islam that just pop out of nowhere 2600 years later?

Why do the Jews not say that their God is “Allah”? Why do Jews today not pray like Muslims if Moses would have? Two out of three “prophets” agree - Islam is not from God.

 

[LilyM]

Eden:

Why do the Jews not say that their God is “Allah”? Two out of three “prophets” agree - Islam is not from God.

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   George, unfortunately two out of those same three also agree that Christianity isn’t the true faith as well

 

[Muslim]

Eden:

Moses and Jesus were not Muslim.

Did Moses pray to Jerusalem or Mecca? Did Jesus? I gave both options since Muhammad prayed towards Jerusalem for the first 5 years of his prophethood, and later redirected his prayers towards Mecca.

And how about Passover? The yearly Passover ritual began the same year it was initiated in the 10th plague and continued uninterrupted for 1500 years. The weekly Lord’s supper ritual began the same week that Christ was crucified and has continued ever since for 2000 years. The Islamic rituals just come out of nowhere, 2600 years after Abraham lived. Are not the Jewish and Christian rituals more likely to be based on real history than the rituals of Islam that just pop out of nowhere 2600 years later?

Why do the Jews not say that their God is “Allah”? Why do Jews today not pray like Muslims if Moses would have? Two out of three “prophets” agree - Islam is not from God.

Muslim = one who submits to God.
did Moses and Jesus submit to God? yes?

 

[Eden]

LilyM:

George, unfortunately two out of those same three also agree that Christianity isn’t the true faith as well

Yes. But Moses lived in the time before Christ. We can see the fulfillment of the Old Testament in Jesus. Islamic rituals are completely unconnected to the teachings and history of either Moses or Jesus. If you are a Christian, you know that Jesus is not a “prophet”. He is the “Son of God”. Nowhere in the Bible does He tell us to anticipate a prophet yet to come.

 

[Eden]

Muslim:

Muslim = one who submits to God.
did Moses and Jesus submit to God? yes?

Not by praying to Mecca 5 times a day.

By your wording all Christians and Jews are Muslim which we know makes no sense. You know what I mean when I say Moses and Jesus were not Muslims. Please don’t play games.

 

[Muslim]

Eden:

Not by praying to Mecca 5 times a day.

By your wording all Christians and Jews are Muslim which we know makes no sense. You know what I mean when I say Moses and Jesus were not Muslims. Please don’t play games.

i am not playing games. i am stating the fact.
Moses and Jesus andall the Prophets were Muslims!

Muslim means one who submits to God.
this is what separates us from you. You are follower of Christ. Judaism comes from Judas I believe. We do not follow anybody but God. see the difference?

 

[Eden]

Muslim:

see the difference?

No. Because Jesus is God.

 

[inJESUS]

Eden:

Yes. But Moses lived in the time before Christ. We can see the fulfillment of the Old Testament in Jesus. Islamic rituals are completely unconnected to the teachings and history of either Moses or Jesus. If you are a Christian, you know that Jesus is not a “prophet”. He is the “Son of God”. Nowhere in the Bible does He tell us to anticipate a prophet yet to come.

Just look at HOW a Biblical prophet is defined in the Bible, you’ll see it doesnt apply to mohammad.

Just look at mohammad’s teachings, many contradict both Jesus and Moses…for example, polygamy…and another one : marrying another man to be able to go back to your first husband is called SHAMEFUL by God in the Bible but PERMISSIBLE in quran… is God Allah? allah granted his prophet “women” as “privileges” , is it God ? Allah poped up to grant mohammad’s carnal desires any time mohammad had some ( like marrying his adopted son’s wife after falling for her beauty in a light garment)…is this the sacredness of marriage taught by God?

 

[inJESUS]

inJESUS:

back to our topic, did mohammad come in the line of Biblical prophets? no
Did he give the same teachings as them? no
Did he give the same teachings of Jesus? no
was he prophecized? no
Did he give teachings that God calls “shameful”? yes.
Did he lead a sinful sexual life according to the Bible? yes
who said he is a prophet? jibreel. Who heard Jibreel? only mohammad. God NEVER revealed himself in this doubtful way.

Is the quran from God? well if you consider that God quotes fables/ myth ,apocryphal Bibles and Talmud, then yes.

The only way muslims can be sure is to find the mysterious Bible that supports their claims, which happened to disappear for 3000 years although allah said he preserved the Bible.

umm… the the answer to most of these questions would be ‘opinions’ and consdering your opinion on Islam I think what would the answers be…but lets not forget facts…
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was a descendent of Abraham just like Jesus and Moses (pbut).

umm. Not only isnt mohammad from their “brethren” in order to say he came to continue them, his being from abraham is very questionable…anyway, God said His covenant is with Isaac, NOT Ishmael who is not portrayed in a good way in the Bible but as a blood-thirsty guy…mmm yes indeed maybe mohammad IS from ishmael…Second, he didnt do any miracle unlike the Biblical prophets and this is one of the signs a Biblical prophet is known according to the Bible…mohammad failed miserably.

Did he give the same teachings as them? no

not opinion but FACT.

Did he give the same teachings of Jesus? no

not opinion but FACT.

was he prophecized? no

not opinion but FACT.

Did he give teachings that God calls “shameful”? yes.

not opinion but FACT.

Did he lead a sinful sexual life according to the Bible? yes

not opinion but FACT.

who said he is a prophet? jibreel. Who heard Jibreel? only mohammad. God NEVER revealed himself in this doubtful way.

not opinion but FACT.

Is the quran from God? well if you consider that God quotes fables/ myth ,apocryphal Bibles and Talmud, then yes.

not opinion but FACT. read the parallelism thread if you dare.

The only way muslims can be sure is to find the mysterious Bible that supports their claims, which happened to disappear for 3000 years although allah said he preserved the Bible.

not opinion but FACT.

 

[Hudd]

This has been an interesting debate to observe. Ironically, I posed this same question to my sister a few months ago. “What if it was satan instead of Gabriel who spoke to Muhammed?” What ‘god’ would command his followers to slaughter anyone who was different? Being in ‘paradise’ with 70 virgins isn’t what a pure man would want. It is a fantasy for Larry Flynt. Our ancestors were Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve and Brenda and Julia, etc…

I make no claim to be a theologian. I cannot quote verses from any holy books. I was raised in a secular setting with Christian values and beliefs. I wasn’t baptized until I was 26 (Methodist). I have contacted the local parish priest and may ‘return’ to The Church where I feel we all belong soon.

The conflicts involving Christian sectarian violence in the 20th and 21st centuries were more nationalistic that religious. Since the Crusades and even during them, this has been the case. But, if you want to say that the Crusades were barbaric and atrocious, consider that they were a millenium ago. Christians have come a long way since the dark ages. It’s time for all true believers of God to emerge from the dark ages.

In other words, I believe Muhammed was a false prophet and a fool.

 

[creativecat]

I’m sick of all this revisionism. I researched Muhammad’s life on the internet. Even Muslim scholars and historians admitt that he married a nine year girl. Also the man had hundreds of concubines and told his warriors it was okay to take women of those they conquered as their sexual slaves.It is a fact that he was a caravan thief, a murderer, a pedophile, a conquerer, a politician, while JESUS was none of these things. Jesus rejected the political and only obeyed the spiritual. Muhammad is worse than Ron Hubbard of Scientology and Moon of the Unification Church. Muslims have no choice to admit that he married a young girl of nine years, maybe even younger. Even Muslim apologists accept this fact! Not one of them deny it! They also accept that he murdered his enemies, like a Jewish
tribe in Saudi Arabia. Oh yes, remember that the crescent is a symbol and hold over from the Moon God, Allah. Whether Muhammad did a few good things is irrelevant, even Stalin and Hitler did some good things, they also killed a lot of people. Say One thing that Jesus did bad! Prove to me that he was a sinful man! Because you can’t! Why follow Muhammad when you can follow a perfect man!
Also do a search on the Satanic Verses on the internet, on how Muhammad himself admitted that some of the original koran was created from Satan! Muhammad was deceived by Satan. Also, God does not fight God. God doesnt want a house divided. That is: either we are wrong or you are completely wrong. Prove to me that Jesus wasnt sinless! Prove to me that Muhammad wasnt any of the things that I and others have said. With the spread of the Internet the whole world is learning about Muhammad’s life. But nothing bad has ever been said against Jesus. No one has been able to find it!

 

[creativecat]

I challenge all Muslims and their apologists to go to this site and read the truth for themselves, right here:

answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/sverses.htm#part2

This is an extensive and researched essay on Muhammad’s childhood and his experience with demons. People who knew Muhammad when he was young said that he was often possessed by bad spirits.

answering-islam.org/Silas/demons.htm

Then return to this site and lets see if you have a rebuttal. Show me proof that he wasn’t deceived by Satan.