Is my belief in flat earth heretical?

[Nine_Two]

There is only one pole in flat earth model. Sun, Moon, and Stars rotate across the Earth daily on the Equator.

I believe in conspiracy. The purpose is to undermine the importance of Earth and make it look like “just another planet” with no significance. Making people feel worthless, it gives Satan greater power to rule over them.

The question is how does it rotate around the equator without hitting everything else? Although the rays would hit unevenly, they would hit everything. Additionally, even if you accept that somehow the light doesn’t hit everything, how do you explain the differing amount of light, and the fact that it changes, i.e. at the equator you get 12 hours day, 12 hours night, while north of the arctic circle, and south of the antarctic circle, you get 24 hours day, 24 hours night (depending on the season, themselves another issue with this).

There are just far too many issues with the idea, and the bible isn’t a geology textbook, and contains several minor errors and inconsistencies that make a literalistic look at passages that have been traditionally accepted as allegorical, problematic. I think, and I apologize in advance for giving my unsolicited advice, you set yourself up for a crisis of faith when you take such a hardline interpretation of scripture. The Church has always interpreted it as being inspired by God, but never the literal truth given to God by man (That was Christ).

 

[datritle]

IS THIS A JOKE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Flat Earth!?! I think the moon is made of cheese.

 

[kozlosap]

Does anyone here remember the song “They are Coming To Take Me Away”?!!! LOL! I think that the OP is playing us all for fun and relaxation. I don’t believe that anyone over the age of 5 would think that the world is flat or a conical in shape. Anyone who has flown has seen the shape of the earth when looking towards the horizon. I would like to inquire as to the educational status of the OP as well as what anti psychotics he’s currently taking and if he is recycling all of the tin foil he uses on his windows and hats

 

[datritle]

does anyone here remember the song “they are coming to take me away”?!!! Lol! I think that the op is playing us all for fun and relaxation. I don’t believe that anyone over the age of 5 would think that the world is flat or a conical in shape. Anyone who has flown has seen the shape of the earth when looking towards the horizon. I would like to inquire as to the educational status of the op as well as what anti psychotics he’s currently taking and if he is recycling all of the tin foil he uses on his windows and hats

seriously!!!

 

[McDale721]

Heretical, no. Delusional, yes.

 

[april32010]

since the belief in a flat earth is a scientific belief rather than a theological belief, it cannot be considered a “heresy” since “heresy” is the obstinate doubt of any doctrine of the faith. The shape of the earth has not been doctrinally defined (nor will it ever be), since it is neither a problem of morals nor faith.

if your belief in a flat earth does not interfere with your duties to god and to your fellow human beings, and if it does not cause you anxiety or result in any waste of time, then it is entirely harmless.

ding,ding, ding we have a winner!!!

 

[Nine_Two]

Does anyone here remember the song “They are Coming To Take Me Away”?!!! LOL! I think that the OP is playing us all for fun and relaxation. I don’t believe that anyone over the age of 5 would think that the world is flat or a conical in shape. Anyone who has flown has seen the shape of the earth when looking towards the horizon. I would like to inquire as to the educational status of the OP as well as what anti psychotics he’s currently taking and if he is recycling all of the tin foil he uses on his windows and hats

Yes, having had the time to think about it, all his arguments do come straight from a single Wikipedia page.

 

[triumphguy]

I have some problems with modern cosmology;

Heaven and sky are identical in Scriptures.

What about Tower of Babel? God punished the Babylonians for building the Tower that stretches to Heaven. Now there are claims that humans even went to the Moon, and God does nothing about it? That’s inconsistent.

What about Enoch, Elijah, Jesus, Mary going up to Heaven? We know that God lives on top of the Heavens, did they travel trillion upon trillions of miles? That just seems absurd to me.

Bible clearly speaks that God sits on top of Heaven, in modern cosmology there is no such thing as top or bottom, especially with antipodes.

Heaven is not a place in our material universe. It exists at God’s will, outside of our time and space.

 

[Bill_Martin]

The Bible is not a science book.

 

[Aramis]

Does anyone here remember the song “They are Coming To Take Me Away”?!!! LOL! I think that the OP is playing us all for fun and relaxation. I don’t believe that anyone over the age of 5 would think that the world is flat or a conical in shape. Anyone who has flown has seen the shape of the earth when looking towards the horizon. I would like to inquire as to the educational status of the OP as well as what anti psychotics he’s currently taking and if he is recycling all of the tin foil he uses on his windows and hats

sadly, there are a great many people who reject truth for delusion.

Really, it isn’t a matter of faith is the person believes the earth to be flat or ound. It’s willful ignorance, but not a matter of religious faith.

But those prone to that form of ignorance often are equally ignorant of scripture’s meaning as taught, putting their own interpretations ahead of the church’s.And that is a problem.

 

[someperson555]

youtube.com/watch?v=XZxzJGgox_E

 

[DlandFan06]

Circumnavigation and international dateline are possible with this map.

relativelyinteresting.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/modern+flat+earth+map.png

As you can see, there is no such thing as continent Antarctica or the South Pole. Instead, there is a giant Ice Wall around the circle of Earth. Beyond this Ice Wall, as well as below Earth, is a lot of Water. There is a canopy of water (perhaps ice) over entire Earth and Firmament of Heaven.

If the earth is indeed flat then how do you explain the rest of the planets? They are spherical. Or what about comets or meteors?

 

[Bill_Martin]

Does anyone here remember the song “They are Coming To Take Me Away”?!!! LOL! I think that the OP is playing us all for fun and relaxation. I don’t believe that anyone over the age of 5 would think that the world is flat or a conical in shape. Anyone who has flown has seen the shape of the earth when looking towards the horizon. I would like to inquire as to the educational status of the OP as well as what anti psychotics he’s currently taking and if he is recycling all of the tin foil he uses on his windows and hats

I think so too. He’s dong a great job of it; I’m getting a kick out of it.

 

[HouseUponRock]

sadly, there are a great many people who reject truth for delusion.

Really, it isn’t a matter of faith is the person believes the earth to be flat or ound. It’s willful ignorance, but not a matter of religious faith.

But those prone to that form of ignorance often are equally ignorant of scripture’s meaning as taught, putting their own interpretations ahead of the church’s.And that is a problem.

I accept all infallible dogmas of the Church. I clearly stated in my original post “I have no authority and I will change if Church infallibly tells me to.” Holy Spirit guides the Church to lead us into truth.

 

[HouseUponRock]

If the earth is indeed flat then how do you explain the rest of the planets? They are spherical. Or what about comets or meteors?

Go to creation account. There are only Sun, Moon, and Stars. There is no such thing as “planets”. Mars, Mercury, etc. are Stars. Comets and Meteors are fallen Stars. And it is debatable whether Sun, Moon, and Stars are spherical, there is a theory that they are disc shaped, although I lean toward spherical theory.

 

[Razanir]

Go to creation account. There are only Sun, Moon, and Stars. There is no such thing as “planets”. Mars, Mercury, etc. are Stars. Comets and Meteors are fallen Stars. And it is debatable whether Sun, Moon, and Stars are spherical, there is a theory that they are disc shaped, although I lean toward spherical theory.

Actually, it’s easier to justify the messed up physics with disc-shaped stars. On a similar note, do you think the Sun is also a star or is it special like Earth? And what about “moons” that appear to orbit “planets”

The Bible is not a science book.

This. It’s intended to be a spiritual truth, not necessarily a historical truth.

Also, CCC 390– “The account of the fall in Genesis 3 uses figurative language, but affirms a primeval event, a deed that took place at the beginning of the history of man. Revelation gives us the certainty of faith that the whole of human history is marked by the original fault freely committed by our first parents.” If the CCC describes Genesis 3 as figurative, is it too far-fetched to expand that to Genesis 1-2?

 

[St_Stephen_1]

Flat Earth is my personal interpretation of Scriptures

Whether or not your beliefs are right or wrong I think your wrong on this. It is not us individuals who interpret scripture but the Church.

Please don’t show me pictures of NASA or “scientific evidence”, I believe modern “science” is Satan’s modern tool to undermine Christianity, since Islam failed.

I won’t “annoy” you with the science. (It does exist though - ask the guys who went to the Moon.) I have several questions you might want to answer and which I think you should consider:

1. 
   *]Why do you think science is the work of the Evil One?
   *]If you think science is the work of the Evil One why does the Vatican have a science academy and priests who are scientists?
   *]Why do you think that science and the Church are two irreconcilable things?
   
   I hope these questions can, at least, give you another perspective to think about.

 

[graceandglory]

Flat Earth is my personal interpretation of Scriptures, and also supported by Tradition (John Chrysostom, who wrote Liturgy I attend on Sundays), and also Church (Pope Zachary declared belief in antipodes heretical). Paul said Satan is “the god of this world”, and Jesus said Satan is “the father of all lies”. Put those together, and massive conspiracy is more than plausible to pull off the lie of globe, heliocentrism, etc.

It is my knowledge that globularists and heliocentrists are not heretics according to Church, so I respect your beliefs and am in no power to dictate doctrines as I have no authority. For this reason, I seek to find out if my belief is orthodox. If some Popes or Church Fathers condemned flat earth, please, I need to see the citations and I am willing to change.

Please don’t show me pictures of NASA or “scientific evidence”, I believe modern “science” is Satan’s modern tool to undermine Christianity, since Islam failed.

I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life. No one comes to the Father, except through Me. Jesus.

 

[vames]

cognitionandculture.net/home/blog/11-oliviers-blog/559-conversation-hackers
(scroll down to “Trolls who troll Trolls”)

 

[tabycat]

Don’t forget the hundreds of thousands of navigators of ships and airline personel that depend on the knowlege of the shape of the earth in order to get from one place to another. How they get all of them to lie as well?

Either that or under somebody’s control or the flat Earthers are wrong.:shrug: