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My 49-year old *brother ,(I’ll call him, “Harry”), died suddenly, on July 7. He had an untreated bleeding ulcer that took him away, as he got ready for work, in the blink of an eye.
Our Mom had died 12 years earlier, also suddenly to Cancer. My belief in God and Heaven is very strong, however Harry did not believe in God or an afterlife. We were raised Presbyterian, (I’m a Catholic now, 15 years), and even though we went to church each Sunday, our Mom taught us, Harry included, about God’s love for us and His role in our lives each and every day. However, last night I had a dream about him that really hit me hard. Now, I do dream about my loved ones when they pass. I always have, even as a little girl. They usually “come” to me right after they pass on to give me a smile and hug and to reassure me of their return to God. It has always made me feel good and I consider these dreams a blessing as they always center on God. I do not proclaim to be psychic or anything like that, just always have had feeling about these dreams as the “real deal”. I am an epic dreamer and besides the usual nonsensical dreams, I have plenty of lucid, “real” dreams as well. But again, I do not subscribe to new age thinking: Ouija boards, psychic’s, etc… I did have a very 'real" dream of my brother the night he passed who told me to stop crying and when I asked him if he was in Heaven, he didn’t answer me.
Now, three weeks later, I have this dream: I am in our childhood home.
My grandmother on my father’s side, who passed in 1982, came to me. She and I had an extremely joyous reunion! Hugs and laughter and reminiscing! It was wonderful. Then suddenly as she’s there, there is a party going on and she looks over my shoulder and into the room walks my deceased brother. He looked like he did when he was 20, tan, youthful, fit; except he’s sweating and flushed and agitated. I immediately go to him and try to comfort him and as he looks at me hesitantly, I tell him that he needs to go, that he died 3 weeks earlier and that he shouldn’t be here, dream or not. He get’s very upset and then I asked him if he was with God and Mom? He said no. He starts to cry and as I held him, he’s rocking bath and forth and I ask again if he’s in Heaven, and he responds,
“No, I’m in Hell.”
(My brother, when living, was very successful and financially blessed. He worked hard and built himself an empire basically. He was married for 18 years and then divorced 4 years ago and had 5 boys. Yachts, planes, multiple homes, traveled constantly, celebrity friendships, etc. He took everyone; his 5 boys, God, our parents, my other brother and I, his ex, friends, and replaced them with greed and all that goes with that. He was not raised to be this way. We were raised in a very loving home and also with God as the focus of our lives. It was very sad to watch and the destruction he’s left behind emotionally, is devastating to bear, especially with his children. He believed in nothing but himself.)
He then “showed” me where he was and it was a very lonely, desolate and spiritually dead place. As I held him, I told him that when he was living, he never once said the words, “I’m sorry.” He hurt so many people and said and did so many horrible things and never looked back. I told him that he should ask for God’s forgiveness. He turned his head away from me several times when I said this. I was speaking to him in a very gentle and loving voice. Then he looked me in the eyes and I repeated it again and just basically urged him to say, “Lord, I’m sorry, please forgive me.” He did and then asked me if I would pray for him and I told him I would pray for him everyday for the rest of my life, which I will and did anyhow.
I could also hear him pleading with me in my ears, even though he was in front of me, saying my name over and over.
Suddenly, he was a few feet away from me and as he started to fade away, his face sort of morphed into an angry, bitter, mask. And then I woke up, upset and disturbed by all of this.
I have to stress that this dream left me feeling upset and saddened. In his life, he turned away from God. I know that Harry was very unhappy deep down inside and struggled with low self-esteem and feelings of loneliness. This broke my heart as he had a sister and brother with spouses and nephews that would have loved him unconditionally. I have forgiven him in my heart and actually apologized, when he was living, for anything I did to him to hurt him. Again, he never reciprocated, but that was not why I did it. Do people go to Hell solely based in non-belief? (I know Jesus said that the only way to the Father is through Him). He was baptized as a baby. Is it the combination of that and his lack of empathy and his love of money when he was living?
What is the church’s doctrine on souls in Hell? I mean no disrespect, but is there a way to pray (NOT bargain with God!) but pray a loved one into heaven?
Thanks for your support.
My 49-year old *brother ,(I’ll call him, “Harry”), died suddenly, on July 7. He had an untreated bleeding ulcer that took him away, as he got ready for work, in the blink of an eye.
Our Mom had died 12 years earlier, also suddenly to Cancer. My belief in God and Heaven is very strong, however Harry did not believe in God or an afterlife. We were raised Presbyterian, (I’m a Catholic now, 15 years), and even though we went to church each Sunday, our Mom taught us, Harry included, about God’s love for us and His role in our lives each and every day. However, last night I had a dream about him that really hit me hard. Now, I do dream about my loved ones when they pass. I always have, even as a little girl. They usually “come” to me right after they pass on to give me a smile and hug and to reassure me of their return to God. It has always made me feel good and I consider these dreams a blessing as they always center on God. I do not proclaim to be psychic or anything like that, just always have had feeling about these dreams as the “real deal”. I am an epic dreamer and besides the usual nonsensical dreams, I have plenty of lucid, “real” dreams as well. But again, I do not subscribe to new age thinking: Ouija boards, psychic’s, etc… I did have a very 'real" dream of my brother the night he passed who told me to stop crying and when I asked him if he was in Heaven, he didn’t answer me.
Now, three weeks later, I have this dream: I am in our childhood home.
My grandmother on my father’s side, who passed in 1982, came to me. She and I had an extremely joyous reunion! Hugs and laughter and reminiscing! It was wonderful. Then suddenly as she’s there, there is a party going on and she looks over my shoulder and into the room walks my deceased brother. He looked like he did when he was 20, tan, youthful, fit; except he’s sweating and flushed and agitated. I immediately go to him and try to comfort him and as he looks at me hesitantly, I tell him that he needs to go, that he died 3 weeks earlier and that he shouldn’t be here, dream or not. He get’s very upset and then I asked him if he was with God and Mom? He said no. He starts to cry and as I held him, he’s rocking bath and forth and I ask again if he’s in Heaven, and he responds,
“No, I’m in Hell.”
(My brother, when living, was very successful and financially blessed. He worked hard and built himself an empire basically. He was married for 18 years and then divorced 4 years ago and had 5 boys. Yachts, planes, multiple homes, traveled constantly, celebrity friendships, etc. He took everyone; his 5 boys, God, our parents, my other brother and I, his ex, friends, and replaced them with greed and all that goes with that. He was not raised to be this way. We were raised in a very loving home and also with God as the focus of our lives. It was very sad to watch and the destruction he’s left behind emotionally, is devastating to bear, especially with his children. He believed in nothing but himself.)
He then “showed” me where he was and it was a very lonely, desolate and spiritually dead place. As I held him, I told him that when he was living, he never once said the words, “I’m sorry.” He hurt so many people and said and did so many horrible things and never looked back. I told him that he should ask for God’s forgiveness. He turned his head away from me several times when I said this. I was speaking to him in a very gentle and loving voice. Then he looked me in the eyes and I repeated it again and just basically urged him to say, “Lord, I’m sorry, please forgive me.” He did and then asked me if I would pray for him and I told him I would pray for him everyday for the rest of my life, which I will and did anyhow.
I could also hear him pleading with me in my ears, even though he was in front of me, saying my name over and over.
Suddenly, he was a few feet away from me and as he started to fade away, his face sort of morphed into an angry, bitter, mask. And then I woke up, upset and disturbed by all of this.
I have to stress that this dream left me feeling upset and saddened. In his life, he turned away from God. I know that Harry was very unhappy deep down inside and struggled with low self-esteem and feelings of loneliness. This broke my heart as he had a sister and brother with spouses and nephews that would have loved him unconditionally. I have forgiven him in my heart and actually apologized, when he was living, for anything I did to him to hurt him. Again, he never reciprocated, but that was not why I did it. Do people go to Hell solely based in non-belief? (I know Jesus said that the only way to the Father is through Him). He was baptized as a baby. Is it the combination of that and his lack of empathy and his love of money when he was living?
What is the church’s doctrine on souls in Hell? I mean no disrespect, but is there a way to pray (NOT bargain with God!) but pray a loved one into heaven?
Thanks for your support.
this must be so difficult and painful for you.
that sounds like a good plan.