Is Obama a Muslim?

[dosdog]

1. You can be born a Jew (If your Mother is Jewish)
2. You can be born a Muslim (if your father is Muslim)
3. You cannot be born a Christian (YOU MUST BE BAPTIZED)

If Obama was never Baptized - He is still a Muslim

Forget His Birth certificate
I want to see His Baptismal Papers

 

[Kaninchen]

Hm

Now that the (American) Politics section has been merged with Secular News to be World News, I think that even us Europeans have become aware that the argument is more:

1. Muslims are very, very, very, very naughty.
2. Obama is very, very, very, very naughty.

Therefore Obama is a Muslim.

 

[dosdog]

Hm

Now that the (American) Politics section has been merged with Secular News to be World News, I think that even us Europeans have become aware that the argument is more:

1. Muslims are very, very, very, very naughty.
2. Obama is very, very, very, very naughty.

Therefore Obama is a Muslim.

Obama may be naughty​

Question is:

Is he a naughty unbaptized muslim
or a naughty baptized christian?

 

[Kaninchen]

Obama may be naughty​

Question is:

Is he a naughty unbaptized muslim
or a naughty baptized christian?

You mean ‘Is he part of the Muslim World Conspiracy or the Christian World Conspiracy?’

 

[dosdog]

You mean ‘Is he part of the Muslim World Conspiracy or the Christian World Conspiracy?’

No You are not A Christian until You are baptized

Obama was born a muslim because of his father

No Baptism - No Christian

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I am prez of the USA - No one elected me
Who cares I will claim it -“NOT”

 

[Kaninchen]

No You are not A Christian until You are baptized

Well, I’m not a Christian at all.

Obama was born a muslim because of his father

No Baptism - No Christian

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I am prez of the USA - No one elected me
Who cares I will claim it -“NOT”

Hm I wonder how Muslims actually know whether they’re really Muslims then? It’s not exactly as safe as in the case of mothers now is it? A naughty Christian or Jew or whatever might be responsible.

There’s a ban on new ‘Islam is very, very, very naughty’ threads on Non-Catholic Religions, by the way.

 

[dosdog]

Well, I’m not a Christian at all.

Hm I wonder how Muslims actually know whether they’re really Muslims then? It’s not exactly as safe as in the case of mothers now is it? A naughty Christian or Jew or whatever might be responsible.

There’s a ban on new ‘Islam is very, very, very naughty’ threads on Non-Catholic Religions, by the way.

A naughty muslim can move to Iran and be sentenced to stoned to death - then they will know

 

[Tietjen]

No You are not A Christian until You are baptized

Obama was born a muslim because of his father

No Baptism - No Christian

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I am prez of the USA - No one elected me
Who cares I will claim it -“NOT”

First, allow me to say that I am NOT defending Obama or his religious beliefs (whatever they may be). However, he claims to have been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ. Therefore, unless and until it can be proven otherwise, we should not assume that he is not baptized. I CAN say with certainty that he is NOT Catholic however.

 

[Kaninchen]

First, allow me to say that I am NOT defending Obama or his religious beliefs (whatever they may be). However, he claims to have been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ. Therefore, unless and until it can be proven otherwise, we should not assume that he is not baptized. I CAN say with certainty that he is NOT Catholic however.

Do all non-Catholics have a special ceremony or do some of them just wet them somehow and say words to the effect of: “You’re baptized, matey!”

 

[dosdog]

First, allow me to say that I am NOT defending Obama or his religious beliefs (whatever they may be). However, he claims to have been baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church of Christ. Therefore, unless and until it can be proven otherwise, we should not assume that he is not baptized. I CAN say with certainty that he is NOT Catholic however.

It is not my obligation - It is HIS produce the baptismal papers or shut up about being Christian

There is No such animal as Our Lady of the golf course - If he spent half as much time in a Church - I would not have to see his baptismal papers

Put that on your forehead nobama

 

[Tietjen]

It is not my obligation - It is HIS produce the baptismal papers or shut up about being Christian

I understand your obvious frustration with President Obama. In fact, I share it in MANY aspects; however, he has no more obligation to present his baptismal certificate than I do or anyone else for that matter. Further, he has no obligation to cease his claim of being a Christian.

There is No such animal as Our Lady of the golf course - If he spent half as much time in a Church - I would not have to see his baptismal papers

You don’t “have to see” them now. It’s of no consequence to him or anyone else if you choose to deny his claim to being Christian. Ultimately however, that is between him and God. It is not in man’s job description to judge another man heart and soul. You can judge actions but only God knows a man’s soul.

Put that on your forehead nobama

I apologize. I was under the impression that this was somewhat of a serious and intellectual discussion. My mistake. I’ll leave you to your rants now.

 

[Tietjen]

Do all non-Catholics have a special ceremony or do some of them just wet them somehow and say words to the effect of: “You’re baptized, matey!”

Really?

Sorry all… I’m obviously too intellectually impaired to continue this discussion.

 

[dosdog]

I understand your obvious frustration with President Obama. In fact, I share it in MANY aspects; however, he has no more obligation to present his baptismal certificate than I do or anyone else for that matter. Further, he has no obligation to cease his claim of being a Christian.

You don’t “have to see” them now. It’s of no consequence to him or anyone else if you choose to deny his claim to being Christian. Ultimately however, that is between him and God. It is not in man’s job description to judge another man heart and soul. You can judge actions but only God knows a man’s soul.

I apologize. I was under the impression that this was somewhat of a serious and intellectual discussion. My mistake. I’ll leave you to your rants now.

He was born a Muslim - If he refuses to produced the documents - He is still a muslim or He can become a Martyr - And we all know He is too much of a coward for that

 

[Kaninchen]

Really?

Sorry all… I’m obviously too intellectually impaired to continue this discussion.

Well, I was being serious. I’ve seen programs with people being baptized in rivers where it looks rather informal and really have no idea of whether all Christians do things the same way as Catholics say they do it. I know that Catholics have been known to do it with children they think to be in danger where there’s not even ‘consent’.

To an outsider, it’s not at all clear.

 

[dosdog]

Well, I was being serious. I’ve seen programs with people being baptized in rivers where it looks rather informal and really have no idea of whether all Christians do things the same way as Catholics say they do it. I know that Catholics have been known to do it with children they think to be in danger where there’s not even ‘consent’.

To an outsider, it’s not at all clear.

Let me clear it up

Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

There does not have to be consent by a child

G-D said Obey your Mother & Father - G-D rewards obedience - He will honor the baptism

Confirmation is when the child takes ownership of the Baptism

 

[tbtcom1213]

I don’t think Obama is Muslim but I do believe he has a contempt attitude towards Christianity based on his views and the circumstances surrounding the visits to two Catholic Institutions of Higher Education.

One should ask Why does the religion of the President matter?

I suppose it does in this day and age; We make our decisions based on the morals we learn; and a majority of those morals and wisdom comes from the Church; The Church tells us a leader is good if he is pro life, conservative et cetera; Obama is quite the opposite;

Pray for your leaders but you don’t have to blindly submit to them;

two and a half more years…

 

[Izdaari]

I don’t think he’s a Muslim. By all indications, even though he’s severed ties with him, he still believes in Jeremiah Wright’s Black Liberation Theology… and that’s as incompatible with Islam as it is with orthodox Christianity.

 

[dosdog]

I don’t think Obama is Muslim but I do believe he has a contempt attitude towards Christianity based on his views and the circumstances surrounding the visits to two Catholic Institutions of Higher Education.

One should ask Why does the religion of the President matter?

I suppose it does in this day and age; We make our decisions based on the morals we learn; and a majority of those morals and wisdom comes from the Church; The Church tells us a leader is good if he is pro life, conservative et cetera; Obama is quite the opposite;

Pray for your leaders but you don’t have to blindly submit to them;

two and a half more years…

What you think is irrelevent

If he was not baptized he is a muslim
if he was baptized he is a Christian

You cannot prove he is a Christian by His actions - other than being a Heretic

 

[agnes_therese]

Hm

Now that the (American) Politics section has been merged with Secular News to be World News, I think that even us Europeans have become aware that the argument is more:

1. Muslims are very, very, very, very naughty.
2. Obama is very, very, very, very naughty.

Therefore Obama is a Muslim.

Actually, the more common notion (in general, not necessarily on these boards) seems to be:

1. I don’t like Islam.
2. I don’t like Obama.
3. Obama must be a Muslim.

Logic has left the building.