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Thorwald
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There are several verses in the scriptures given unto us, that have presented differences of opinions in regards to understanding The Trinity & The Godhead. Your thoughts/comments on the following, would be greatly appreciated;
a) 1 John 5:7…There are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word and The Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
This verse seems to define ‘The Trinity’.
b) Isaiah 44:6…Thus saith The Lord, the King of Israel and His redeemer, The Lord of Hosts, I am the first and I am the last, and beside me, there is no God. This verse seems to define ‘God’. You will note, that there is no mention of The Holy Ghost.
c) Now, let us look at various other statements made in the NT;
1)…and the Word that ye hear is not mine, but my Father’s that sent me.
I know that the above is very deep, and I am not making a statement, but rather, I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. Even Paul acknowledged ‘the mystery’ of the above. Perhaps there is no answer, or, there are errors in translation of the original scripture, or, did anyone (authors) fully understand? We may never know until judgement day.
a) 1 John 5:7…There are three that bear record in heaven, The Father, The Word and The Holy Ghost, and these three are one.
This verse seems to define ‘The Trinity’.
b) Isaiah 44:6…Thus saith The Lord, the King of Israel and His redeemer, The Lord of Hosts, I am the first and I am the last, and beside me, there is no God. This verse seems to define ‘God’. You will note, that there is no mention of The Holy Ghost.
c) Now, let us look at various other statements made in the NT;
1)…and the Word that ye hear is not mine, but my Father’s that sent me.
- Go forth and baptise in the name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost.
- Jesus Christ is referred to as ‘the beginning of the creation of God’, in the book of Revelation
- Ephesians 4:5-6…[There is] One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, and through all, and in you all. (Remember, The Holy Ghost proceedeth from The Father.)
- The Lord’s Prayer…Our Father who art in heaven…thy kingdom come…
- Jesus Christ’s answer to the rich man, that called Him ‘good’…There is no one good but God.
- Revelation 1:6…[speaking of Jesus Christ]…And hath made us kings and priests unto God and His Father;…
- Revelation 4:8 and 4:11, tell us that The Lord God Almighty is sitting on the throne, and He created all things. Then, in chpt 5, we find that a bloodied Lamb takes a sealed book from the hand of He who sat on the throne. In Revelation 21:22 and 22:3, we find that The Lord God Almighty and The Lamb are both on the throne.
- In the Psalms of David and repeated in the NT, Jesus’ Father tells Him to sit on His right hand, until His father makes the enemies of Jesus, His footstool.
- Jesus states, that, “before the world was, I am.” He also states that He is looking forward to returning to the glory that He had before becoming the Son of Man.
- We are told that The Father allowed The Son to create all things for The Son’s pleasure, and that The Son must reconcile His creation, before subjecting His kindom and Himself unto The Father.
- It appears that Isaiah, chpt 43, refers to ‘The Lord, The KIng of Israel’, rather than ‘The redeemer, The Lord of Hosts’ (per Isaiah 44:6).
- Jesus referred to mankind as His brothers and sisters. He was God’s Son, as much as the angels are, and we hope that we will become sons/daughters of God. Jesus, of course was/is also The Lord of Hosts (higher than all other sons/daughters of God).
I know that the above is very deep, and I am not making a statement, but rather, I would greatly appreciate your thoughts. Even Paul acknowledged ‘the mystery’ of the above. Perhaps there is no answer, or, there are errors in translation of the original scripture, or, did anyone (authors) fully understand? We may never know until judgement day.