Is passionate kissing wrong for unmarried people?

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No, because they are not married. So it is not wrong at all.
If they were married, they should be kissing their spouse and not someone else.
 
I said, people on this thread. Hint.
You even used the plural. There’s a couple of me, I guess.
Basically, yeah. Obsessing about a kiss exchanged between teenagers or unmarried adults in their 40s strikes me as exceptionally creepy – I don’t have any other word to use here --at worst.
You’re missing the difference between the discussion of a subject and obsession. Just because I don’t agree with whatever you say just because you consider yourself to be older, wiser and whatnot, doesn’t make it obsession - especially if I try to explain it and you react with ad hominems. If you can’t handle a discussion of whether something is right or wrong without looking for obsessions and trying to demean people who talk to you, perhaps you shouldn’t participate.
Teenagers are going to french kiss each other, they’re going to get caught by their parents who will in most cases will have the decency to look the other way,
Great parenting there, not talking to kids about sex. Sex ed is not a self-taught course. If you insist on discussing that subject, children need to be able to burn their fingers but leaving them to figure things out on their own isn’t exactly the best idea of bringing them up.
 


Great parenting there, not talking to kids about sex. Sex ed is not a self-taught course. If you insist on discussing that subject, children need to be able to burn their fingers but leaving them to figure things out on their own isn’t exactly the best idea of bringing them up.
You made this comment in response to this:
Teenagers are going to french kiss each other, they’re going to get caught by their parents who will in most cases will have the decency to look the other way,
You have no cause to question my parenting, or how you gather that the above demonstrates “not talking to kids about sex”.

What it does, however, is highlight how detached from common sense and reality much of this thread has become. The vast majority of Catholic parents have encountered or at least are aware that their child has kissed a boyfriend or girlfriend and not come unglued and likely have given them a little privacy. In fact, the vast majority of Catholic parents were themselves in the place of their teenagers at some time.

Advising a kid to treat his or her date as if the date were Jesus (on this thread) or Mary (on this thread or another) is mind-boggling.
 
What it does, however, is highlight how detached from common sense and reality much of this thread has become. The vast majority of Catholic parents have encountered or at least are aware that their child has kissed a boyfriend or girlfriend and not come unglued and likely have given them a little privacy. In fact, the vast majority of Catholic parents were themselves in the place of their teenagers at some time.

Advising a kid to treat his or her date as if the date were Jesus (on this thread) or Mary (on this thread or another) is mind-boggling.
You don’t give them privacy!! What do you say, oh sorry, you two finish up, I’ll talk to you later!!

How about teaching them respect for others and for themselves. How about teaching them to respect their future spouse, (which in most cases not the person they are making out with) by not bringing a lot of baggage into the relationship. Why not teach them how God feels about sex.
Let me tell you what happens when you give teenagers privacy…my sister did this with her kids…oldest daughter had 4 kids before she was 21…youngest daughter just had her first baby at 18, but you know, kids will be kids, what are we to do…
you set limits, you set rules…you then enforce these rules…this is how it would work if I walked in on my kids making out with their boyfriend/girlfriend…discussion immediatley with both of them of what is not permitted to happen and why…date will then go home…they will not be left alone again and said child would have to prove that we could trust them to do the right thing before being allowed to go out on a date again…Is it harsh? you bet!! I’m not here to be my kids friend, I’m here to parent them and get their souls to Heaven. These children are on loan to me from God, that’s not something I take lightly!!
 
You don’t give them privacy!! What do you say, oh sorry, you two finish up, I’ll talk to you later!!

How about teaching them respect for others and for themselves. How about teaching them to respect their future spouse, (which in most cases not the person they are making out with) by not bringing a lot of baggage into the relationship. Why not teach them how God feels about sex.
Let me tell you what happens when you give teenagers privacy…my sister did this with her kids…oldest daughter had 4 kids before she was 21…youngest daughter just had her first baby at 18, but you know, kids will be kids, what are we to do…
you set limits, you set rules…you then enforce these rules…this is how it would work if I walked in on my kids making out with their boyfriend/girlfriend…discussion immediatley with both of them of what is not permitted to happen and why…date will then go home…they will not be left alone again and said child would have to prove that we could trust them to do the right thing before being allowed to go out on a date again…Is it harsh? you bet!! I’m not here to be my kids friend, I’m here to parent them and get their souls to Heaven. These children are on loan to me from God, that’s not something I take lightly!!
You’d give that lecture to an 18 year old?
 
Wow, good comeback !!
Actually, its not really. Its an easily predictable anecdote on this thread, and statistically insignificant as all anecdotes are. Swapping counter-anecdotes would also be pointless, so I decline to do that. My point remains: the vast majority of Catholic parents would not tie themselves in knots if they saw their child kissing a date. “Kissing”, is the scope of this thread. Try to keep that in mind and in perspective.
 
Yes! Sin does not have an age limit!!
Thanks for responding. Would you tell a 45 year old relative something similar? I understand that its not a teen involved, but if its a sin, would he or she get an age-appropriate lecture?
 
Actually, its not really. Its an easily predictable anecdote on this thread, and statistically insignificant as all anecdotes are. Swapping counter-anecdotes would also be pointless, so I decline to do that. My point remains: the vast majority of Catholic parents would not tie themselves in knots if they saw their child kissing a date. “Kissing”, is the scope of this thread. Try to keep that in mind and in perspective.
no,** passionate kissing **is the “scope” of this thread and it should only be done between a married couple, regardless of age.
 
Thanks for responding. Would you tell a 45 year old relative something similar? I understand that its not a teen involved, but if its a sin, would he or she get an age-appropriate lecture?
yup!! Would you like my brother’s number so you can hear what I told him about sleeping with his girlfriend? He’s 51…again a sin is a sin, no matter the age.
 
yup!! Would you like my brother’s number so you can hear what I told him about sleeping with his girlfriend? He’s 51…again a sin is a sin, no matter the age.
I’m really not interested but I believe you if you say you did. The scope of this thread is “passionate kissing” so your anecdote is out of bounds.
 
I’m really not interested but I believe you if you say you did. The scope of this thread is “passionate kissing” so your anecdote is out of bounds.
no it’s not, you asked if I would say something to an adult relative for something similar, I answered your question. Yes I would!
 
no it’s not, you asked if I would say something to an adult relative for something similar, I answered your question. Yes I would!
I didn’t think any equated two adults kissing (passionately) with two adults having sex. Thanks for the clarification of your position.
 
I didn’t think any equated two adults kissing (passionately) with two adults having sex. Thanks for the clarification of your position.
well seeing as one tends to lead to the other, I thought you would figure it out;)
 
Yeah really bad come back…

I have major issues with the whole “18 year old Child” thing, treating them like they are 4 with ultimatums and threats. My In laws tried that almost 12 years ago, to control my then boy friend now husband to brake up our relationship. We started “dating” when we were 17, we were married a couple months before my 19th birthday. (No, it wasn’t because of any immorality behavior.) 18 is plenty old enough to start thinking about when what your vocation is and if your supposed to be married, only in recent history do we still consider that a child. If someone is to immature by that point who’s fault is that?

No, you don’t give your 18 massive amounts of privacy to go be a slut and sleep with everyone. Hopefully you’ve talked to them starting YEARS before about the purpose of marriage and sex and near occasions of sin. At the same time, if you catch your 18year old kissing someone who they could very well end up marring and then attempting (cause it probably isn’t going to work) to humiliate and and dictate to them like like a 2 year old over it, your going to have some really fun relationship issues to deal with later.
 
well seeing as one tends to lead to the other, I thought you would figure it out;)
Is it your position that by actively discouraging unmarried adults from passionate kissing you are preventing sexual intercourse?
 
Yeah really bad come back…

I have major issues with the whole “18 year old Child” thing, treating them like they are 4 with ultimatums and threats. My In laws tried that almost 12 years ago, to control my then boy friend now husband to brake up our relationship. We started “dating” when we were 17, we were married a couple months before my 19th birthday. (No, it wasn’t because of any immorality behavior.) 18 is plenty old enough to start thinking about when what your vocation is and if your supposed to be married, only in recent history do we still consider that a child. If someone is to immature by that point who’s fault is that?

No, you don’t give your 18 massive amounts of privacy to go be a slut and sleep with everyone. Hopefully you’ve talked to them starting YEARS before about the purpose of marriage and sex and near occasions of sin. At the same time, if you catch your 18 kissing someone who they could very well end up marring and then attempting (cause it probably isn’t going to work) to humiliate and and dictate to them like like a 2 year old over it, your going to have some really fun relationship issues to deal with later.
That’s a common sense view.
 
Yeah really bad come back…

I have major issues with the whole “18 year old Child” thing, treating them like they are 4 with ultimatums and threats. My In laws tried that almost 12 years ago, to control my then boy friend now husband to brake up our relationship. We started “dating” when we were 17, we were married a couple months before my 19th birthday. (No, it wasn’t because of any immorality behavior.) 18 is plenty old enough to start thinking about when what your vocation is and if your supposed to be married, only in recent history do we still consider that a child. If someone is to immature by that point who’s fault is that?

No, you don’t give your 18 massive amounts of privacy to go be a slut and sleep with everyone. Hopefully you’ve talked to them starting YEARS before about the purpose of marriage and sex and near occasions of sin. At the same time, if you catch your 18 kissing someone who they could very well end up marring and then attempting (cause it probably isn’t going to work) to humiliate and and dictate to them like like a 2 year old over it, your going to have some really fun relationship issues to deal with later.
I don’t see any need for an 18 year old kissing their boyfriend, what good is going to come of it. Even if it doesn’t go any further than kissing, they are still enjoying something that belongs in marriage. The “comeback” I had was for a teenager living in my house, therefore probably under the age of 18. I have every right to enforce rules in our home and they will be told of these rules far in advance. It won’t be something I spring on them. It would not be an attempt to break up a relationship. It would be to enforce the rules we have and to teach them right from wrong, again…my job as a parent.

Now this thread was not just about teenagers, but any unmarried couple. I feel it’s wrong for someone who is not married, to be kissing anyone. That’s my opinion and that of many others. If you don’t agree, that’s fine.
 
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