Is permissible for a muslim being friend of a kaffir?

[Emad]

selvaraj:

It is true. Saudi Arabian school subject goes like this.(I have many friends those who are working in Saudi schools).

In Christ,
selvaraj

So they are your friends!! It makes no sense to say that they are teaching children not to take Christians and Jews as friends, but then they go ahead and become friends with you (a Christian). It is very obvious you don’t know what you are talking about. Again I proved it to you using verses from the Quran and examples from the Prophets peace be upon him life and your proof is asian news and your friends. BTW even if it is taught in Saudi schools (and I don’t think it is) Saudi Arabia doesn’t represent Islam.

 

[Eetaq]

Look, any government that has hundreds of princes who dont do anything all day and get fat off of what belongs to the people (and yes, the entire saudi royal family is overweight) isn’t an islamic government.

I want you to stop saying that Saudi Arabia is the equivalent of the Vatican.

We, as muslims, dont care what Saudi Arabia does, as long as they maintain the masjids there. We are not going to follow what Amir Abdullah does and if we did all we would do is eat massive amounts of food that we got from stealing from people.

So go and read the qur’an and sunnah to find what we think about making friends, period.

 

[un_dhimmi]

Under Islam, children take the religion of the father.

That is why it is okay for muslim men to marry non muslim women since the the faith will continue.

If a muslim woman marries a non muslim man, then thats the end of the road for Islam in that particular family.

This will also explain why muslims claim Islam is the fastest growing religion… if you stack the decks…

 

[Emad]

un_dhimmi:

Under Islam, children take the religion of the father.

That is why it is okay for muslim men to marry non muslim women since the the faith will continue.

If a muslim woman marries a non muslim man, then thats the end of the road for Islam in that particular family.

This will also explain why muslims claim Islam is the fastest growing religion… if you stack the decks…

I am sorry but what does this have to do with the topic of the thread?

 

[Eetaq]

un_dhimmi:

Under Islam, children take the religion of the father.

That is why it is okay for muslim men to marry non muslim women since the the faith will continue.

If a muslim woman marries a non muslim man, then thats the end of the road for Islam in that particular family.

This will also explain why muslims claim Islam is the fastest growing religion… if you stack the decks…

oh GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

dont EVEN man…

so youre saying that Islam is passed genetically? like Judaism goes through the mother?

NO

The kids take on whatever religion they want, even if the dad is strict about Islam eventually the kids grow up and can choose their own religion, so dont even try to say that the only reason Islam is the fastest growing religion is because a bunch of muslim men are going around marrying non-muslim women, having kids, and then those kids are muslim.

And what was this little…stack the decks…stuff? man like I said go read NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC.

 

[selvaraj]

Emad:

I have read that article. It doesn’t say anything about not taking Jews and Christians as friends. It also doesn’t mention which schools and which textbooks teach these things. You don’t believe everything you read in the news do you?

Well, here, this is a book, Hadeeth, for ninth grade. Hadeeth is a statement of Prophet Mohammed. This is a book that starts for ninth graders. This is talking about the victory of Muslims over Jews. This is a Hadeeth.

“The day of judgment will not arrive until Muslims fight Jews, and Muslim will kill Jews until the Jew hides behind a tree or a stone. Then the tree and the stone will say, ‘Oh Muslim, oh, servant of God, this is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.’ Except one type of a tree, which is a Jew tree. That will not say that.” This is taught for 14-year-old boys in Saudi Arabia.

In Christ,
selvaraj

 

[Emad]

selvaraj:

Well, here, this is a book, Hadeeth, for ninth grade. Hadeeth is a statement of Prophet Mohammed. This is a book that starts for ninth graders. This is talking about the victory of Muslims over Jews. This is a Hadeeth.

“The day of judgment will not arrive until Muslims fight Jews, and Muslim will kill Jews until the Jew hides behind a tree or a stone. Then the tree and the stone will say, ‘Oh Muslim, oh, servant of God, this is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.’ Except one type of a tree, which is a Jew tree. That will not say that.” This is taught for 14-year-old boys in Saudi Arabia.

In Christ,
selvaraj

Yes that is a hadith. That is talking about times of war. Where does it is not permissible to take them as friends? I would also appreciate if you tell me the name of the book, author and publisher.

PS- I am sure the Jews in Israel teach their children the same things.

 

[selvaraj]

Emad:

Yes that is a hadith. That is talking about times of war. Where does it is not permissible to take them as friends? I would also appreciate if you tell me the name of the book, author and publisher.

PS- I am sure the Jews in Israel teach their children the same things.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front.../pages/frontline/shows/saudi/art/blank.gifThe books were published in 2000. FRONTLINE cannot verify how many Saudi schools have used these textbooks, or how these passages were taught or interpreted by teachers in Saudi Arabia. However, these textbooks are part of the official curriculum for Saudi students and are a fundamental part of their education. Approximately 35% of school studies is devoted to compulsory Saudi religious education. (For more on Saudi religious education, see FRONTLINE’s interviews with Ali al-Ahmed, Mai Yamani, and Hassan Youssef Yassin.)
Please visit the above link also.

In Christ,
selvaraj

 

[fatuma]

Pleaze, you make it sound like you have never heard of a propaganda done by a government. I bet the children rasied during the cold war had the of best impressions of Russia.

wa salma

 

[Frank_J]

HI

Here is the Quran so read it. You will find many quotes in the Quran that shows Islam on parade. If you wish to understand a religion you need to read its so called holy book. Now you have a copy of the Quran.

islam.tc/quran/

1. The Table Spread (Al-Máída)
   005.051 O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

005.014 And with those who say: “Lo! we are Christians,” We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.

1. The Table Spread (Al-Máída)
   004.101 And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.

004.101 And when ye go forth in the land, it is no sin for you to curtail (your) worship if ye fear that those who disbelieve may attack you. In truth the disbelievers are an open enemy to you.

1. Repentance (Al-Tauba)
   009.029 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.

009.030 And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah, and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old. Allah (Himself) fighteth against them. How perverse are they!

I would say this would tell you what they think of kaffir’s.

Just wanted show you what I have.