Is personal contact with the parish priests important for you?

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I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
 
i think that parish priests should make themselves more available to the congregation.
maybe i am wrong.

i had just moved to a new city and wanted to introduce myself to the priest. when i finally got the chance to sit down with him in his office, he was dozing off!! i understand priests are busy, but it was very uncomfortable and i felt like this was something he didn’t really feel comfortable with and he was obviously lacking for sleep!

a moment i will not forget.
 
After NO Mass the celebrating priest is usually there to shake hands and give a quick “Hello” to. After the Easter vigil at the reception afterwards I tried to approach our priest to wish him well on his upconming surgery and to say hello, but it appeared to me he was more interested in just making the rounds of the tables for small chit chat. They aren’t very approachable actually.
 
I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
I have to say, I find this post to be VERY insulting, and not at all representative of the priests in my parish. I attend an NO Mass and our priests are VERY aware of thier priesthood. Confessions are heard regularly, the priests are often present for Adoration, our pastor can be found in the Blessed Sacrament chapel after daily Mass, praying the rosary…AND yet, they still have time to be hospitable toward their parishioners, and even getting to know some of them on a deeper level than shaking hands after Mass.

We are extremely blessed with the priests at our parish, and I resent the implication that simply because they celebrate the NO, that they are somehow less holy than those from the FSSP churches. Their ordinations are just as valid as any other, and for my money, I can’t think of a single person I’d rather have directing my spiritual life.
 
I would welcome a closer acquaintance with priests, especially those I admire most, but it isn’t something that is a necessity for me. There is one TLM I go to where the priest is usually at the front door after Mass chatting with parishioners.

Not all parishes are the same, by the way, even if they only offer N.O. Masses. My home parish, even before it started offering the TLM, had more scheduled confession time available than the neighboring half-dozen parishes put together.
 
I think it’s just as important for the priests as it is for the parishoners.
Our priests are under assault by the enemy constantly, and to show concern for them personally and for the presbyterate is exceptionally important and highly valued.

Make a point of greeting your priest after Mass as well as in the community at large. Invite them over for dinner and to outings, and you’ll find that your moral support and fellowship makes them stronger and the community stronger.
 
I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
I keep getting the feeling that I have been extremely blessed in the priests I have known over the course of my life, but you do many priests wrong in this characterization that I have put in bold font. Keep in mind that many fine priests were forced to give up the TLM of their childhood or early priesthood, as much as anyone else, or, in the case of the younger ones, never had the chance to come to know it. They have remained faithful and obedient within the Church, as did their parents, and take the holiness of their call very seriously. There is no call to add insult to injury.

Be careful about leaping to judgement. It is well to avoid contact with anyone who would foster an attitude in you that might minimize the importance of prayer, examination of conscience and regular confession of sin, real acts of charity, and the like. This is particularly true of the man who has had the care of your soul placed in his hands.

Nevertheless, cassocks and a fondness for outward display do not a holy man make. For in what way can a man be a minister to the weak if he is not even approachable? How are humility and stand-offishness compatible? I don’t mean that every priest has to be a glad-handed extrovert, or that it isn’t valuable for a priest to be recognizable as a priest by his dress. I do mean that he must be approachable and gentle of spirit towards all. A priest who scares children away by his chosen attitude does not imitate Christ. He also needs you to approach him as a human being, not as a demi-god. There is a respect for priests that crosses the line to deification. This is not healthy, any more than lack of respect or forgetfulness of his vocation would be.

I don’t attend FSSPX churches, but I have not found NO priests who still preach about the reality of sin and the necessity of not only contrition but a thirst for holiness to be less affable than those who fail to recognize the importance of these things. In fact, on a purely theoretical basis, I would think that a man who does not tend to his own holiness will have a limited toleration for the society of other people who don’t happen to amuse him. There is a physics at play in the spiritual life, too, after all. True charity depends on an ongoing dependence on God. A priest who does not immerse himself in the truth of how life works and what we all need–which is what a life of holiness is, after all–is a trainwreck waiting to happen. We all know that a trainwreck in the engine is the worst of all. Trainwrecks, though, can go off either side of the tracks.

Keep in mind, too, that our priests have made a supreme sacrifice in their obedience to celibacy. The Lord promised to those who gave up wife and children a return of ten and twenty and thirty fold. If you and your pastor don’t particularly hit it off, this is OK. It happens. But it is well to take the time to get to know him. These men no longer come from families of twelve and extended families of dozens. It may be your calling to be among those who are willing provide him with the society of those who appreciate and support his thirst for holiness, his need for human friendship and moments of lightheartedness, and his need to be able to admit that he’s not as perfect as he would like. Every priest needs to find these things from those who will appropriately encourage rather than reject him in his humanity.

In other words, there are times when we ought to ask not what our priests can do for us, but what is ordained for us to do for our priests. In a social setting, this means that if it appears you might make mutually-enriching friends in Christ, by all means pursue that.

If your society seems to wear him out, or if he doesn’t particularly welcome it, though, that’s OK. There is no need to force it. Ask him for that which you actually need, let others minister to his own social needs, and support him in other ways, such as seeing to it that the needs of the Church are met and internal strife is discouraged, freeing him to worry about those needs that only he can meet. This is more help than you can imagine!
 
I used to think it was. I’ve had our pastor over for a gthering and have met with him one-on-one many times. I find that the more they think they know you, the harder they’ll be on you, till the point of being overly strict. It has led me to really struggle spiritually. So in answer to your question…no, personal contact is not important anymore. In fact, I say to myself…“There is father so and so, run!!!”
 
I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
What in the world does the bolded part mean? The Ordinary forma nd the Extraordinary form of the Mass are both “real”.
 
Yes, I like to know my priests at least well enough that they know my first name when they see me.

As far as priests who pray the NO versus the TLM, I don’t see any difference at all in regards to interaction with the flock. Each priest is an individual, and each has his own personality. One traditional priest I know is quiet and the other will chat as long as you want. Same with the NO priests. Some enjoy a long chat, some are busy and seem to prefer a brief chat.
 
I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
I’ve reported this post to the Moderators.

I find it not only insulting and demeaning, but I think it could be misleading to non-Catholic seekers and to struggling Catholics and cause them to mistrust the Mass or the priests. The statement about the “real H. Mass” is simply unacceptable. I question whether this poster is even a “real Catholic” because if he/she IS a “real Catholic,” he/she should know better!
 
It’s very important. I’ve always had approachable NO pastors, and now at the TLM also.
I’d love to have more personal contact, but hate to bother them and actually get a little nervous. If we were doing word association and you said “parish priest”, I’d say “busy”, so I don’t want to linger after mass when they are surrounded by families and kids. I get my doses of priestly help on Relevant Radio, but I’d really like more.
 
After NO Mass the celebrating priest is usually there to shake hands and give a quick “Hello” to. After the Easter vigil at the reception afterwards I tried to approach our priest to wish him well on his upconming surgery and to say hello, but it appeared to me he was more interested in just making the rounds of the tables for small chit chat. They aren’t very approachable actually.
I am interested in just how a priest could sit down and have a nice meaningful conversation one to one with everyone at once. Imagine being in his shoes - a room full of people, each one wanting his undivided attention. How does one human being manage to do that?

I find it remarkable that this priest found the time and energy to engage in small chit chat with so many people if he was scheduled for surgery. Goodness gracious give the man a break. Wish him well with a get well card and a prayer.

If you wish to be known to your priest:
  1. Support him with your talents and service
  2. Don’t criticize and gripe: Not about him nor other members of the Church
  3. Love him
  4. Pray for him
  5. Care for him.
  6. He is human and he needs all the support his congregation can give him.
If we continue criticizing our priests and their endeavors, we aren’t going to have any to criticize.
 
I always wonder if people are interested in having a small chat with the priest (after H. Mass, for example) or even discussions, or perhaps not at all? Of course there will be much difference for those who still attend the N.O. Masses within the parish system. Priests there tend to be more of a “social assistent” rather than anything else, they may be better approachable but rarely are aware of their priesthood in the sense that they don’t wear their cassock, say their prayers, preach to the people about sin or hear confessions anymore. Don’t know if for anyone personal contact is even wanted for these priests. But what about the people here who attend the real H. Mass, be it the former indult-Masses or in FSSPX or FSSP-churches? It seems to me most pirests there are very hard to get to speak to in a private manner. For me personally that’s okay, I am just one of many Catholics and I have no real desire to be possesive of priests. But I wonder what all the expierences with this point have been for the people on the forum?

Thanks in advance for the replies!
I would suggest that since you apparently believe that only the Extraordinary Form of the Mass is “real” (thus valid), you have issues more important than getting to have a “small chat with the priest” - say, heresy, schism, dunno. Also, on what basis do you say that priests who celebrate the Ordinary Form aren’t “aware of their priesthood,” don’t say prayers, or hear confessions? Your broad-brush, sweeping generalizations are insulting to the vast majority of hard-working priests - who are not, in fact, “social assistants.” Since the Holy Father recognizes the Ordinary Form as valid, perhaps you should, too.
 
Nicely said, Kestrelrose and EasterJoy.

When I first started attending my parish, I I had a stray thought or two of wishing I could have a sit-down chat after Mass with some of the other parishioners and the priest so we could share in some get-to-know-each-other way. I so loved hearing the old Latin Mass and was so glad to have it back that I wanted to extend it further.

However, my years of experience told me to just sit back and wait. I took my time in observing and learning. I had so much to catch up on after so many years away from the Latin mass.

So, I took is slow and easy. And I’m glad I did. Now my thoughts are more towards what can I do to improve myself and make myself more worthy of the afterlife. I have at least 25 or 30 more years left and I’m going to need every bit of that time to get to where I need to be.

I’ve thought of what a priest’s daily routine is and I’m sure I don’t know the half of it. Saying Mass every morning, always being contemplative, always striving for humility, always thinking of how to get his parisioners to strive to do better to deserve that afterlife.

So I agree that they might need a little space now and again, just like the rest of us. And I agree that personal contact may be something they need from us now and again. We do need to think of what our priest’s need to support them, give them the strength to keep going on and to bolster them up. They pray for us every day. We need to pray for them as well.
 
I am interested in just how a priest could sit down and have a nice meaningful conversation one to one with everyone at once. Imagine being in his shoes - a room full of people, each one wanting his undivided attention. How does one human being manage to do that?

I find it remarkable that this priest found the time and energy to engage in small chit chat with so many people if he was scheduled for surgery. Goodness gracious give the man a break. Wish him well with a get well card and a prayer.

If you wish to be known to your priest:
  1. Support him with your talents and service
  2. Don’t criticize and gripe: Not about him nor other members of the Church
  3. Love him
  4. Pray for him
  5. Care for him.
  6. He is human and he needs all the support his congregation can give him.
If we continue criticizing our priests and their endeavors, we aren’t going to have any to criticize.
First of all…his surgery was elective…he is not to my knowledge…ill.
Second of all…I don’t think everyone was wanting his undivided attention and they sure weren’t getting it anyway.
Third…do you know I didn’t pray for him or wish him well? No, you don’t. Please do not presume. My priests are in my prayers…daily.

I am not a griper, in fact, I let it slide off my back. I would never say anything to the priest in question or any other priest. I know about their time constaints and accept that. But, does that mean I cannot voice my feelings on an internet forum…since when?
 
I would suggest that since you apparently believe that only the Extraordinary Form of the Mass is “real” (thus valid), you have issues more important than getting to have a “small chat with the priest” - say, heresy, schism, dunno.
Nah, I visit Novus Ordo Mass too, if that would sweeten your bitter tone towards me a little? Just I don’t see of it as the actual mass, rather a “product” (words of the Pope) typically from the sixties and riddled with prayers and customs that were unwanted by even VaticanII.
Also, on what basis do you say that priests who celebrate the Ordinary Form aren’t “aware of their priesthood,” don’t say prayers, or hear confessions?
Personal expierence with many priests. All the priests who came out of the seminary here in Belgium in recent years seemed to have dropped the sacrament of confession. There simply is no confession anymore in their churches. Churches built past 1962 don’t even have confessionals anymore. I also asked them if they still said their prayers: the answer was “no, I’m too busy”. Just imagine: in my old missals it was the clergy stating that the excuse “I’m too busy” is hardly acceptable for something that lasts 5 minutes. Now it is the other way around, the few remaining lays here in secularised Europe have to tell the priests to say their prayers and beg for confession almost. You have to keep in mind that I am talking from the north-Belgian perspective. Our seminary, the last one that is open, was founded by Suenens. That should say enough, no?
Your broad-brush, sweeping generalizations are insulting to the vast majority of hard-working priests - who are not, in fact, “social assistants.”
Actually, they are, sorry to dissapoint you, at least what the latest generations of priests here in Belgium concerns. Sure, even those who consider their job like that of a social assistant are hard-working but that doesn’t mean anything per say. You want to do a google search for english websites that talk about the recent pedofila cases (we have had two this year so far) here in belgium and about a certain Rudy Borremans. Also our archbishop has alas fallen into wide apathy just like most of the last remaining church goers.

Still, I’m glad you put up such a feverish fight for the priests and the Church, just don’t shoot the pianist please. I’m just telling you what secularisation does to priests and what might happen to America in 30-40 years if the current trend continues.
 
Nicely said, Kestrelrose and EasterJoy.

When I first started attending my parish, I I had a stray thought or two of wishing I could have a sit-down chat after Mass with some of the other parishioners and the priest so we could share in some get-to-know-each-other way. I so loved hearing the old Latin Mass and was so glad to have it back that I wanted to extend it further.

However, my years of experience told me to just sit back and wait. I took my time in observing and learning. I had so much to catch up on after so many years away from the Latin mass.

So, I took is slow and easy. And I’m glad I did. Now my thoughts are more towards what can I do to improve myself and make myself more worthy of the afterlife. I have at least 25 or 30 more years left and I’m going to need every bit of that time to get to where I need to be.

I’ve thought of what a priest’s daily routine is and I’m sure I don’t know the half of it. Saying Mass every morning, always being contemplative, always striving for humility, always thinking of how to get his parisioners to strive to do better to deserve that afterlife.

So I agree that they might need a little space now and again, just like the rest of us. And I agree that personal contact may be something they need from us now and again. We do need to think of what our priest’s need to support them, give them the strength to keep going on and to bolster them up. They pray for us every day. We need to pray for them as well.
That was a great post, thanks for writing! Personally I sometimes think that we should let priests approach us for casual talks about this and that, or just to ask who we are as his new sheep. I noticed that one FSSPX priest is constantly swarmed by people wanting some of his time and advice once he leaves the confessional for the sacristy. Clearly I don’t want to be an extra burden. Still, I’m glad so many people value their relationship with the priest as a shepard. Me I grew up along priests and many came from my own family so I always like to have the ear of the priest but I realise it’s not always possible anymore.
 
Yes, contact with the parish priest is very important as I often have questions which aren’t appropriate to ask in the confessional. I must say, however, that I don’t feel able to approach a priest from an entirely different culture or one whose English is poor. My diocese has too many imported priests (Canada has become a mission country) and I feel alienated.
As an aside, I also have problems with lectors who have a heavy accent–I end up missing have the readings.😦
 
I have to say, I find this post to be VERY insulting, and not at all representative of the priests in my parish. I attend an NO Mass and our priests are VERY aware of thier priesthood. Confessions are heard regularly, the priests are often present for Adoration, our pastor can be found in the Blessed Sacrament chapel after daily Mass, praying the rosary…AND yet, they still have time to be hospitable toward their parishioners, and even getting to know some of them on a deeper level than shaking hands after Mass.

We are extremely blessed with the priests at our parish, and I resent the implication that simply because they celebrate the NO, that they are somehow less holy than those from the FSSP churches. Their ordinations are just as valid as any other, and for my money, I can’t think of a single person I’d rather have directing my spiritual life.
i didnt get that at all from what the person was originally asking. i dont know if you have ever attended a tridentine mass. often when a tridentine mass is over the priest goes back behind the sanctuary to change out of his heavey chausible and alb. so running an idea passed your priest unless its donut day in the auditorium can seem a little challenging. not to mention there are not nearly as many traditional priests as novus ordo priests because the “moto proprio” is still very new.
i dont think that anyone in here is saying that a novus ordo priest is hard to talk to or doesnt make himself available. i think they are exactly the opposite.
 
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