Is Phyletism condemned in the Catholic Church?

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This is what I found in dictionary.com when I typed in Phyletism…
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Philetus definition

amiable, with Hymenaeus, at Ephesus, said that the “resurrection was past already” (2 Tim. 2:17, 18). This was a Gnostic heresy held by the Nicolaitanes. (See ALEXANDER ØT0000168 [4].)
 
It’s been answered several times in this thread:

I said, “Phyletism, from the Greek for “tribe”, or “tribalism”, is the favoring of one ethnicity over another in ecclesiastical matters”, and another said, “Phyletism is the injection of nationalism into Church politics”.
 
nordskoven said:
The Church has never condemned Phyletelism.
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Actually it has, but it has not been so condemned under that particular name. Gallicanism, Febronianism, fascism, etc. - all these have been condemned, partly because of the nationalistic separatism attached to these theologies.

“The imposing edifice of Catholic theology has been reared not by individual nations and men, but rather by the combined efforts of all nations and the theologians of every century. Nothing could be more at variance with the essential character of theology than an endeavour to set upon it the stamp of nationalism” (Catholic Encyclopedia article on “Dogmatic Theology”)

Blessings,
Marduk
 
I think that the Knanaya church (diocese) could be seen as a form of phyletism.
 
Cristiano said:
I think that the Knanaya church (diocese) could be seen as a form of phyletism.
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Possibly, but I think phyletism involves the will or conception to separate yourself from the Church.

Theory:

Phyletism is considered a heresy, and therefore can only be applied to matters on the order of the divine, not on matters merely ecclesiastical.

When the Malankara Orthodox sought independence from the Syriac Orthodox, charges of phyeletism initially ensued because the matter of the headship of the Patriarch in the SOC has a theological basis (i.e., the divine appointment of St. Peter’s headship among the Apostles). Seeking independence from the Patriarch can thus be seen as breaking the divine constitution of the Church.

I do not see how the situation of the Knanaya can be phyletism because to seek administrative independence on the metropolitan or even patriarchal levels does not break the divine constitution of the Church according to Catholic principles (though there seems to be other theological reasons for resistance to a distinct Knanaya Church by some Indian Catholics).

Blessings,
Marduk
 
mardukm said:
Possibly, but I think phyletism involves the will or conception to separate yourself from the Church.

Theory:

Phyletism is considered a heresy, and therefore can only be applied to matters on the order of the divine, not on matters merely ecclesiastical.

When the Malankara Orthodox sought independence from the Syriac Orthodox, charges of phyeletism initially ensued because the matter of the headship of the Patriarch in the SOC has a theological basis (i.e., the divine appointment of St. Peter’s headship among the Apostles). Seeking independence from the Patriarch can thus be seen as breaking the divine constitution of the Church.

I do not see how the situation of the Knanaya can be phyletism because to seek administrative independence on the metropolitan or even patriarchal levels does not break the divine constitution of the Church according to Catholic principles (though there seems to be other theological reasons for resistance to a distinct Knanaya Church by some Indian Catholics).

Blessings,
Marduk
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I am sure that you know more than I do on the topic and so I am not arguing with you. I just want to explain that I made that statement because my understanding is that unless you are a Knanaya you cannot be a Bishop, a priest or a parishoner of the diocese even if you are more than welcome to attend the liturgy there. That to me seems to go against what I would consider Catholic principles if done as a policy. However, that is my own understanding and I can be completely off track.
 
There have been comparisons of the situation in the US to Phyletism… both of the EC and of the Orthodox… comparisons grounded in the overlapping jurisdictions.

And I can see the similarities. They don’t cross over into true phyletism, but they are on a continuum with Phyletism a good bit further out.

The Knanaya seem further out than most of the ECC’s, but still far short of phyletism.
 
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