is premarital sex bad? why?

[jane_doe]

If my partner and I make a lifetime committment to each other and decide that getting married is not required becuase we need nothing more than our committment to each other, then by any definition, at the time we make that committment, we are not married.

If you are not married, by definition you are not fully committed. If you want to fully commit, quit holding back and put a ring on it.

 

[Bradski]

If you are not married, by definition you are not fully committed. If you want to fully commit, quit holding back and put a ring on it.

It’s not required. And I would have felt insulted if my wife had insisted we get married to prove that commitment. If you are married, did you feel you weren’t fully committed until you signed a legal document?

You might need it. Others do not. Including your church.

 

[jane_doe]

It’s not required. And I would have felt insulted if my wife had insisted we get married to prove that commitment. If you are married, did you feel you weren’t fully committed until you signed a legal document?

You might need it. Others do not. Including your church.

Your wife is illogical, and you two are still not fully committed to each other.
(Note: I’m not Catholic).

 

[Rau]

It’s not required. And I would have felt insulted if my wife had insisted we get married to prove that commitment.

Yeah, THAT reason might be hurtful. A desire to declare publically a commitment of such import isn’t quite that though. Nor is a choice to conform with a practical and sensible societal practice.

Brad, how long was it after you and tour wife “committed” that you began to declare a spouse on your tax return?

 

[Bradski]

Your wife is illogical, and you two are still not fully committed to each other.
(Note: I’m not Catholic).

After building a life together for over 40 years, two kids and two grandchildren – my wife will be astonished. Please send me your contact details. I need to find out more about my relationship with her.

Yeah, THAT reason might be hurtful. A desire to declare publically a commitment of such import isn’t quite that though. Nor is a choice to conform with a practical and sensible societal practice.

Brad, how long was it after you and your wife “committed” that you began to declare a spouse on your tax return?

Four days. As we were both working overseas at the time (in separate countries) we needed to legalise it to facilitate visa requirements. She couldn’t have joined me where I was, or vice versa, if we didn’t have someone’s signature on a legally acceptable document (she also thought it might be easier for when we had kids).

But this wasn’t a public commitment to love, honour and obey as a recognition of our commitment because we didn’t think that it was necessary. This was a matter of turning up at a dusty office in a non-descript building to sign some papers in the presence of two witnesses (a couple of strangers). No veils, no cake, no champers, no guests, no friends or family, no ceremony, no pictures, no speeches, no announcements. The paperwork wasn’t even in English so we had to get it translated later. She rang her mum after we’d finished and that was it.

As I said, once you both make the commitment, nothing else is needed.

 

[jane_doe]

After building a life together for over 40 years, two kids and two grandchildren – my wife will be astonished.

Except you don’t have a wife.

As I said, once you both make the commitment, nothing else is needed.

You love this women and have built a great life together. What’s you aversion to actually marrying the woman you love? If it’s “no big deal” why not do it?

 

[Rau]

After building a life together for over 40 years, two kids and two grandchildren – my wife will be astonished. Please send me your contact details. I need to find out more about my relationship with her.

Four days. As we were both working overseas at the time (in separate countries) we needed to legalise it to facilitate visa requirements. She couldn’t have joined me where I was, or vice versa, if we didn’t have someone’s signature on a legally acceptable document (she also thought it might be easier for when we had kids).

But this wasn’t a public commitment to love, honour and obey as a recognition of our commitment because we didn’t think that it was necessary. This was a matter of turning up at a dusty office in a non-descript building to sign some papers in the presence of two witnesses (a couple of strangers). No veils, no cake, no champers, no guests, no friends or family, no ceremony, no pictures, no speeches, no announcements. The paperwork wasn’t even in English so we had to get it translated later. She rang her mum after we’d finished and that was it.

As I said, once you both make the commitment, nothing else is needed.

I’n not following. You mean you “got married” in a dusty office 4 days after “commitment”? I though you said you have not married?

I was actually wondering whether in your tax return you filled out the “spouse” information - and if you were never married formally, when did you commence to fill in that info on your return?

 

[Bradski]

I’n not following. You mean you “got married” in a dusty office 4 days after “commitment”? I though you said you have not married?

I was actually wondering whether in your tax return you filled out the “spouse” information - and if you were never married formally, when did you commence to fill in that info on your return?

I didn’t say that I wasn’t married. Just that getting married was nothing more than a minor matter done for reasons other than love, commitment, public affirmation etc.