Is purgatory in the same place as hell?

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Is purgatory in the same place as hell?

Are they distinct as to their punishments only or also as to their location?
 
fakename said:
Is purgatory in the same place as hell?

Are they distinct as to their punishments only or also as to their location?
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My understanding, which may be wrong, is that Purgatory is not a place, it is a process.

But I could be wrong

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Obviously, no one can describe in human words the entirety of what is Hell and Purgatory. It can be helpful to imagine them as “places,” but to a God who is out of time and space, that word may be meaningless. I do, however, feel fairly confident in saying that Hell and Purgatory are fundamentally different and unrelated to each other. The concept of Purgatory being a place of “limited punishment” doesn’t really seem to make sense to me. Yes, there is pain in purgatory, but why does all pain have to be punishment?

The other, to me, obvious statement is that, by definition, Hell is where God is not. There is no love and no hope. However, Purgatory is a place full of love and hope - you know you’re on your way to Heaven! For sure! Without question! That to me says that God must present. And the space between where God is and God is not must be infinite.

If I’ve said any nonsense, please someone correct me!
 
fakename said:
Is purgatory in the same place as hell?

Are they distinct as to their punishments only or also as to their location?
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Think of purgatory as a mud room on a farm. It’s a place to clean up before entering the main house. You wouldn’t want to go in covered with dirt. Hell is a whole different story. Our imaginations can’t give us a vivid enough picture of the torments there. Hell and purgatory have no resemblance to each other. Remember the biblical story of the rich man and Lazarus, the beggar. We learn there is an uncrossable chasm between heaven and hell. Not so with heaven and purgatory.
 
Purgatory is neither explicit in the bible, nor do when know how long one would be in it,

It’s a mystery. But it is in Tradition.
 
Everyone eventually leaves purgatory. No one leaves hell ever.
 
Purgatory is where you get purified. Hell is in Washington D. C.
 
well if purgatory is not analogous to a place then, the question is moot.

However, it clearly seems that hell is truly “remoter” in mode of life than purgatory.
 
TraditonRules said:
Purgatory is neither explicit in the bible, nor do when know how long one would be in it,

It’s a mystery. But it is in Tradition.
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No argument. We are fortunate not to be burdened by sola scriptura (or any of the other “reformation” inventions) and recognize Sacred Tradition and the teaching authority of the Magisterium. Note that the Holy Trinity is also not explicit in the Bible.
 
lutherlic said:
No argument. We are fortunate not to be burdened by sola scriptura (or any of the other “reformation” inventions) and recognize Sacred Tradition and the teaching authority of the Magisterium. Note that the Holy Trinity is also not explicit in the Bible.
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Thank You, Amen!
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Holy Souls are not in Hell nor  do  demons frequent  "lower" parts of  Purgatory to  torment Souls as some saints and holy people have erroneously precieved in private revelations.  Holy Souls work out their purification in Peace in full confidence they are going to Heaven.
BP
 
Thank You, Amen!
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Holy Souls are not in Hell nor do demons frequent “lower” parts of Purgatory to torment Souls as some saints and holy people have erroneously precieved in private revelations. Holy Souls work out their purification in Peace in full confidence they are going to Heaven.
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what’s bad about thinking that demons could enter purgatory?
 
Pope John Paul II said that hell is not a place but a state that the soul ends up in, by their own choice to reject God.

Purgatory is a state of purgation, but St Dom Bosco visited purgatory in a dream and it was so beautiful, he thought he was in heaven.

The main thing is, in purgatory, you know you are saved and will have the beatific vision of God in heaven.

Jim
 
Jim, I saw a Mother Angelica Live program this week, where she read from a book that had the vision of St. John Bosco that you’re talking about. She said she can’t prove it, but she felt like it might be Limbo b/c it had so many “earthly” things but they were much more beautiful. (Limbo being a natural state of happiness). But if it’s Purgatory, it must be the level where you’re almost in Heaven b/c it didn’t seem like anyone was suffering.
 
Veronica97 said:
Jim, I saw a Mother Angelica Live program this week, where she read from a book that had the vision of St. John Bosco that you’re talking about. She said she can’t prove it, but she felt like it might be Limbo b/c it had so many “earthly” things but they were much more beautiful. (Limbo being a natural state of
happiness). But if it’s Purgatory, it must be the level where you’re almost in Heaven b/c it didn’t seem like anyone was suffering.
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Actually it was Mother Angelica where I first heard about him being in purgatory. It intreged me enough to buy the book.

It was purgatory and he learned of it when he met some boys he knew in life, who told him where he was.

Jim
 
In purgatory, it is peaceful and loving. We do not have any fear or bad thoughts. It is not same here on earth. Here on earth we all have our own thoughts, emotions, and pains. In purgatory none of them exist there except pure Love.
 
Purgatory is a state of purgation, but St Dom Bosco visited purgatory in a dream and it was so beautiful, he thought he was in heaven.
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The main thing is, in purgatory, you know you are saved and will have the beatific vision of God in heaven.
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does that exclude the possibility of devils being there or , what is the same, exerting their power there?
 
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