Is religion responsible for the Planned Parenthood attack?

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John_Lazarus said:
Or maybe it’s our primitive need to classify everything to make it easier to discern a threat.

Someone commits a heinous crime. We then look for some identifying factors like race, religion, sex, politics, whatever, so that we can make ourselves (feel) safe by being wary of people of that particular race/religion/sex/politics/whatever, rather than trying to find the actual cause for that person’s evil deed.

Generalizing is always so much easier than looking for an individual reason for behaviour.

It’s much easier for me to, say, shun all Muslims, than to actually try to see if an individual person is a threat.
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Yes. And the common thread of most mass murderers is that they to lose it after a significant setback or a series of. This is one of the reasons longer waiting periods to buy a gun will work in many cases but not it all. Many of these guys are willing to wait and plan but it isn’t easy to tell who is going to snap and who isn’t.

Aside from the alleged comment “no more baby parts” has there been anything solid about who Dear’s original target was or his motivation? Were any of the dead or wounded from PP? If not, were they random, wrong place/wrong time, unintended/mistaken?
 
In your statement you assert that our actions, even though peaceful, must be condemned because they precipitate violence. But is this a logical assertion? … We must come to see that, as the federal courts have consistently affirmed, it is wrong to urge an individual to cease his efforts to gain his basic constitutional rights because the quest may precipitate violence.
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  • People who protest Planned Parenthood, and public figures who commented on the PP videos.
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Oh, wait - sorry. I’ve misattributed that quote. It wasn’t from anyone against Planed Parenthood. It’s a direct quote from Martin Luther King’s “Letter from a Birmingham Jail”. My bad.
 
JonNC said:
This question causes me to speculate:
If it can be said the these murders took place because of religion, can it not also be said that the tens of thousands of killings that take place inside these abortion centers every year are because of atheism and atheists?

Jon
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Jon, respectfully, are you saying that only Atheists have abortions? I don’t believe that is true at all. Many women of faith have had abortions, probably much more so than non women of faith. I don’t believe there are actual statistics out there but some of the reading I’ve done say that is the case.
 
ComplineSanFran said:
Jon, respectfully, are you saying that only Atheists have abortions? I don’t believe that is true at all. Many women of faith have had abortions, probably much more so than non women of faith. I don’t believe there are actual statistics out there but some of the reading I’ve done say that is the case.
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I wasn’t saying anything. I was posing a question. The article Poses this question:
“But, were the Planned Parenthood murders religiously-motivated?”

Just as there are some women of Faith that have had abortions, there may be some atheists who oppose it. It just makes sense that people know this, so my point is to ask what the purpose is to ask the original question.

Jon
 
To answer the original question…no. Religion cannot be blamed for the PP attack by a crazy person. This was someone who decided, of his own free will, to go murder people. There is nothing in any of Jesus’ teachings that tell us we should do things like this. And Jesus founded a religion. Therefore, if He didn’t tell us to do such things, and He is the one who founded the Christian religion, logically, you cannot blame Christians for a random nutcase shooting at anyone. In fact, killing anyone goes against the Fifth Commandment, which most Christians take pretty seriously.

That’s like saying that if someone is of Irish or English or Spanish descent, (pick any nationality) they must be a killer, because someone of that nationality shot someone else. It’s just not logical.

(Oh yeah, and not all Muslims are killers either. Also, not logical).
 
JustaServant said:
Unfortunately liberals are using this to bash pro-lifers, calling it ‘domestic terrorism’.
When the focus should be on our poor track record in this country for treating mental illness.
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The same people who will rush in to defend Islam, and refuse to make any connection to Islam with the terrorists, are the ones who will claim this is an ideological or religious attack.
 
A concern for me is about the rhetoric we use – anti Planned Parenthood, anti contraception or abortion, using language of faith to make arguments in the public arena; anti US and Western culture in the Islamic public arena; and now in US politics, using religious language to persuade people on all sorts of issues.

I don’t think for a moment that people using this rhetoric want to engage in theological discourse, but certainly from the lens of someone who is outside religious tradition, it may certainly appear that religion is driving the craziness we are living through.
 
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