Is salvation a process or a one-time event?

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***I say it is a process… as per Phil 2:12 and other passages

“Work out your salvation with fear and trembling”***
 
Well the problem comes that people use terms in different ways and then want to argue who is right. Is salvation a process or a one-time event? The answer is of course, “Yes.”

In general, the term salvation is composed of two things. One is sanctification, a process and the other is justification, an event.

Often people use the term salvation in a way so as make it equivalent to justification.

If you get two people arguing about it, one including sanctification and the other not, they will disagree.

There is also the issue of is it sanctification followed by justification or justification followed by sanctification but that isn’t really pertinent to your question.
 
Is salvation a process or a one-time event?

“YES.”
My friend - if it were a “one time event”, then we would all have to believe in “eternal security” like our calvinist brothers (still brothers though we disagree) and it would render void the many verses (such as the OP reference to work out our salvation in fear and trembling; and paul’s hope to “persevere” and “finish the race” and render void Pauls’ warning about Gentile believers (saved) being grafted out of the root) and render void verses that tell us its worse to “know the truth” (salvation) and fall away, then to never have known it all - and to render void Jesus warning that many who called upon his name (some of whom cast out demons in his name - power of the Holy Spirit per Jesus’ words, not power of demons) would be “goats” based upon what they did not do for the poor and hungry and would be cast out.

No - justification, like sanctification, is an ongoing process - this is what scripture teaches us and the “once saved only saved doctrine” is a dangerous trap, I fear, for the unwary.

Blessings,

Brian
 
as the OP notes and others, it is truly an On-going process as clearly set forth in Scripture & as taught by the RCC.
 
My friend - if it were a “one time event”, then we would all have to believe in “eternal security” like our calvinist brothers (still brothers though we disagree) and it would render void the many verses (such as the OP reference to work out our salvation in fear and trembling; and paul’s hope to “persevere” and “finish the race” and render void Pauls’ warning about Gentile believers (saved) being grafted out of the root) and render void verses that tell us its worse to “know the truth” (salvation) and fall away, then to never have known it all - and to render void Jesus warning that many who called upon his name (some of whom cast out demons in his name - power of the Holy Spirit per Jesus’ words, not power of demons) would be “goats” based upon what they did not do for the poor and hungry and would be cast out.

No - justification, like sanctification, is an ongoing process - this is what scripture teaches us and the “once saved only saved doctrine” is a dangerous trap, I fear, for the unwary.

Blessings,

Brian
My friend it IS both: a one-time event AND a process. The crucifixion stands as the ultimate sacrifice for all times (past, present, and future). It is certainly not OSAS. More like “one saved, and continue to need to be saved.”
 
My friend it IS both: a one-time event AND a process. The crucifixion stands as the ultimate sacrifice for all times (past, present, and future). It is certainly not OSAS. More like “one saved, and continue to need to be saved.”
I would assume by definition that “one time event” and “a process” are mutually exclusive.

“Saved” and “being saved”/“partially saved” would seem to be mutually exclusive as well.
 
Yes it is a one time event, it start the day you come unto the world and stop the day you leave this world
 
Depending on the context in Scripture in can be either a process or a one-time event.

However, the point in which one first believes is the point at which one receives the gift of eternal life. At that point you are saved. If you were to die right then and there, you would spend eternity with Jesus Christ in heaven. You can never be any more saved (in the sense of being delivered from hell and having the gift of eternal life) than you are at that point in time.
 
My friend it IS both: a one-time event AND a process. The crucifixion stands as the ultimate sacrifice for all times (past, present, and future). It is certainly not OSAS. More like “one saved, and continue to need to be saved.”
agreed.

I felt salvation when I was baptised, but I know that at various points in my life since then I have transgressed and lost that grace.
 
Depending on the context in Scripture in can be either a process or a one-time event.

However, the point in which one first believes is the point at which one receives the gift of eternal life. At that point you are saved. If you were to die right then and there, you would spend eternity with Jesus Christ in heaven. You can never be any more saved (in the sense of being delivered from hell and having the gift of eternal life) than you are at that point in time.
according to SpiritLessons.com a non-Catholic website, this is not true…

Also according to Scripture… but who pays attention to tht anymore?

anyway @ that site, they speak of people being in Hell… and they tell a different story, those miserable ones… This one guy was a preacher who preached OSAS…

the woman who started this site is a Christian … i have no reason to doubt her when she tells me she went to Hell with Jesus… even though i do tend tobe skeptical of such things…

but nothing she says conflicts w/ the Bible… and as far as i can see, not with the Curch…
of course if what she said did conflict w/ the Church iwouldn’t be mentioning it here…

i haven’t been there for many months so not sure if anything has changed… There are several accounts from people who claim to havegone to visit Hell…
 
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***I say it is a process… as per Phil 2:12 and other passages

“Work out your salvation with fear and trembling”***
I know you catholics love to heap scorn upon Christians and you especially distracted. One can only be saved once from there starts a life long process of being sanctified, so yes once Christ comes in and changes us we begin from there to be sanctified and transformed to be more like Christ
 
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