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As Jesus said. Did he mean that God does not rule this world? What did he mean exactly. Or is it because we are citizens of heaven stuck in this world, still how can God not be the ruler since he created this world? 
Does that mean he has control over us? Or just over those who commit sin willingly?I know what you mean. It’s like the natural world is so beautiful, so perfect: the trees in the wind, the stars, the flowers the birds - surely God in the world! But look around you at this man-made world - full of wars, pollution, hatred and crime… that is what Satan rules - the fallen world of sinful man.
What does a ruler do? The ruler attempts to enforce his will on his subjects. He has strength and power to do things to you. So he is the ruler of this world in that he exerts his energies in this world to get you to do evil. He has no power in the next world.As Jesus said. Did he mean that God does not rule this world? What did he mean exactly. Or is it because we are citizens of heaven stuck in this world, still how can God not be the ruler since he created this world?![]()
I don’t see how Satan can have control over us since we do have free will, which is bestowed upon us by the grace of G-d. Some influence perhaps, but certainly not control.Does that mean he has control over us? Or just over those who commit sin willingly?
Of course God is God but He is not dictator of the world. He gives us the choice betweenAs Jesus said. Did he mean that God does not rule this world? What did he mean exactly. Or is it because we are citizens of heaven stuck in this world, still how can God not be the ruler since he created this world?![]()
I know he doesn’t have conrol over us, and that we have free will. But to call him ruler of this world kinda implies that he had dominion and power over this world.I don’t see how Satan can have control over us since we do have free will, which is bestowed upon us by the grace of G-d. Some influence perhaps, but certainly not control.
It’s both.I know he doesn’t have conrol over us, and that we have free will. But to call him ruler of this world kinda implies that he had dominion and power over this world.
I think what the you guys are saying that he has the power to lie and our own wrong choices feeds that power, thats how he brings destruction upon this world.
I know I’m about to kinda change the subject but I have to ask this, does Demons use humans to commit evil, like possess them and make them do evil things like terrorist for example, or is that just free will?
Sure we would, and especially on social media. Why do you think despots dictators and regimes like Syria, China, N. Korea go after cell towers and imprison people for what’s on their cell phone. The world is being told of Satan’s hold on many peoples and the murderous rages persecuting many who proclaim the name of Jesus show who is the ruler of this world.If he was the ruler, we wouldn’t be sitting here talking about it.
I think that Satan is ruler of this world since the Fall, but we are @not of this world".As Jesus said. Did he mean that God does not rule this world? What did he mean exactly. Or is it because we are citizens of heaven stuck in this world, still how can God not be the ruler since he created this world?![]()

The more you turn to God, the less power Satan has over you. But look how Godless this world is. It is becoming more and more secular everyday and governments are firmly behind the secularization of the world. That means that Satan has a LOT of control over the world, and he always has. Look how evil the world is - with it’s wars, the rich taking all the money from the poor, the sexual perversions, the contempt for human life whether it be an unborn child, an old person or just a poor person.Does that mean he has control over us? Or just over those who commit sin willingly?
Very well said. All we can do is trust in God and pray for this world.The more you turn to God, the less power Satan has over you. But look how Godless this world is. It is becoming more and more secular everyday and governments are firmly behind the secularization of the world. That means that Satan has a LOT of control over the world, and he always has. Look how evil the world is - with it’s wars, the rich taking all the money from the poor, the sexual perversions, the contempt for human life whether it be an unborn child, an old person or just a poor person.
Yes I think Satan rules this world, but we still can turn firmly away from him and pray to God and for the intercession of the saints, and follow Christ always. This is our armor to fight the powers of darkness!