Is saying Geez... wrong?

[GreyRabbit]

laughs hard Oh man! This is a very hilarious thread! Here I am, supposed to be studying for my molecular bio midterm, and I come across this thread in my procrastination, and couldn’t help but laugh! Be assured I mean no disrespect however! I sure hope y’all get this figured out!

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–Grey

 

[geezerbob]

In my opinion, Geez is a shortened degenerative of Jesus and is taking the Lord’s name in vain.

The use of Geez is acceptable only when addressing me.

 

[mo0004]

One expression I use that is harmless and gets a laugh from those around me is the full expression coined by Lucy in the Peanuts comic strip, “Good grief, Charlie Brown!”

 

[bookgirl]

Actually, blasphemy or taking the Lord’s name in vain is the second commandment. There is a reason, is there not, as to why it is number two, in a list of 10? I think that the ordering of the commandments has to do with the seriousness of the question. Blasphemy is a serious offense against God and shows contempt and lack of respect.

That is not something I EVER learned in 18 years of Catholic school. I’ve always thought that killing was definitely a mortal sin, no questions asked, and it’s number five. I think that in some cases all of them could one way or another be a serious sin, but I don’t think the order has anything to do with it at all.

Bobzills, this is totally off subject, so I apologize in advance but are you Catholic, can I ask that? I mean that respectfully.

 

[bobzills]

That is not something I EVER learned in 18 years of Catholic school. I’ve always thought that killing was definitely a mortal sin, no questions asked, and it’s number five. I think that in some cases all of them could one way or another be a serious sin, but I don’t think the order has anything to do with it at all.

Bobzills, this is totally off subject, so I apologize in advance but are you Catholic, can I ask that? I mean that respectfully.

I don’t think that God acts chaotically, but that there is a reason for what He does. There is a reason for the ordering of the ten Commandments. Yes, I am Catholic.

 

[ltbpoe43]

It’s not the word - its the intent behind it.

“Geez/gosh - I’m so sorry to hear about your sick mother, I’ll pray for her.” - no harm in this case.

It’s wrong when meant with the intent to curse or ridicule or hurt others, i.e. “Geez - what a moron!!”

Other words are inherently bad - and you know what I’m talking about - but these phrases or conjunctions - depends on intent.

 

[bookgirl]

I don’t think that God acts chaotically, but that there is a reason for what He does. There is a reason for the ordering of the ten Commandments. Yes, I am Catholic.

I didn’t mean that God acts chaotically in any way. I just meant that I was never taught that the order had anything to do with which one was more serious than any of the others.

 

[bobzills]

I didn’t mean that God acts chaotically in any way. I just meant that I was never taught that the order had anything to do with which one was more serious than any of the others.

I think there was a reason why the ordering is the way it is.
Best wishes.

 

[FelixBlue]

I’ll be honest with you, I’m a complete nominalist when it comes to language: it all has to do with intent. For that matter, Jesus! I think this is an overly-srcupulous thread.

 

[bobzills]

I’ll be honest with you, I’m a complete nominalist when it comes to language: it all has to do with intent. For that matter, Jesus! I think this is an overly-srcupulous thread.

This is an example of blasphemy against the second commandment: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

 

[FelixBlue]

This is an example of blasphemy against the second commandment: Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.

Come on. Explain why. You have absolutely no basis in the text of the commandments themselves–rather, you base yourself on some (rather evangelical-baptist I would presume) feeling of the text. Have you ever been to “Catholic” nations where they (priests included–and I think of orthodox priests of Opus Dei) swear like sailors…?

 

[bobzills]

Come on. Explain why. You have absolutely no basis in the text of the commandments themselves–rather, you base yourself on some (rather evangelical-baptist I would presume) feeling of the text. Have you ever been to “Catholic” nations where they (priests included–and I think of orthodox priests of Opus Dei) swear like sailors…?

The fact that we see priests violating one of the Ten Commandments does not make it right. This is a major fallacy.

 

[McKevin]

For what it’s worth…

I grew up in a holiness brand of Protestant Christianity where the people of my church frowned on “by-words”. A “by-word” is a substitute for a cuss word. Anyway, one of the things I love about my faith journey to Catholicism is that, and I love to make this comparison. The church of my youth was a John 3:16 church and the church that Christ founded is a John 3:17 church…actually we all know that Christ’s church is a complete understanding of scripture and tradition. But my point is that, well that is my point.

God Bless.

PS: “Cheese and rice” is one of the funniest “by-word” phrases I’ve ever heard.

 

[bobzills]

For what it’s worth…

I grew up in a holiness brand of Protestant Christianity where the people of my church frowned on “by-words”. A “by-word” is a substitute for a cuss word…

I would say that this is a good approach.

 

[jmj603]

Come on. Explain why. You have absolutely no basis in the text of the commandments themselves–rather, you base yourself on some (rather evangelical-baptist I would presume) feeling of the text.

From the moral theology handbook I have (by Dominic Prummer, OP, published by Kenedy, 1957):

One should carefully distinguish from blasphemy cursing and taking the name of God in vain…Taking the name of God or sacred things in vain is in itself venially sinful, since it does not cause grave irreverence towards God.

Because vain use of sacred names is venially sinful, anyone who commits the act deliberately (instead of out of habit) should consider going to Confession.

 

[bobzills]

From the moral theology handbook I have (by Dominic Prummer, OP, published by Kenedy, 1957):
"One should carefully distinguish from blasphemy cursing and taking the name of God in vain…Taking the name of God or sacred things in vain is in itself venially sinful, since it does not cause grave irreverence towards God. "
Because vain use of sacred names is venially sinful, anyone who commits the act deliberately (instead of out of habit) should consider going to Confession.

I think it is a serious matter for someone to show contempt for God. And the fact that there is a separate commandment for this offense alone, indicates that it is a serious matter.

 

[Julianna]

geez louise,muchado about nothin’…

 

[bookgirl]

I think it is a serious matter for someone to show contempt for God. And the fact that there is a separate commandment for this offense alone, indicates that it is a serious matter.

I know I keep coming back to this but I’m frustrated here. Where are you getting this? There definitely are situations where a sin against any of the commandments could be serious in one way or another, but b/c a sin is a sin against one of the commandments does NOT make it immediately mortal. Do you understand what we’re saying when we say “serious”? It doesn’t mean that a venial sin would not be serious in the sense of the word in today’s culture, but when we say serious we are meaning a mortal sin that would result in loss of sanctifying grace.

A high school kid who says “oh my G–” out of habit, especially when trying to kick the habit, without thinking, is definitely commiting a sin. I think they would be showing a disrespect for God, an insensitivity to God, but contempt? And a mortal sin? Definitely not! I’m not trying to say that committing this sin is okay, but in most cases it is going to be venial, not mortal.

 

[bobzills]

I know I keep coming back to this but I’m frustrated here. Where are you getting this? There definitely are situations where a sin against any of the commandments could be serious in one way or another, but b/c a sin is a sin against one of the commandments does NOT make it immediately mortal. Do you understand what we’re saying when we say “serious”? It doesn’t mean that a venial sin would not be serious in the sense of the word in today’s culture, but when we say serious we are meaning a mortal sin that would result in loss of sanctifying grace.

A high school kid who says “oh my G–” out of habit, especially when trying to kick the habit, without thinking, is definitely commiting a sin. I think they would be showing a disrespect for God, an insensitivity to God, but contempt? And a mortal sin? Definitely not! I’m not trying to say that committing this sin is okay, but in most cases it is going to be venial, not mortal.

The seriousness of an affront is proportional to the dignity of the person towards whom it is directed. Since then the insult in using God’s name in vain is offered to the ineffable majesty of God, it is then serious and not minor.

 

[bookgirl]

The seriousness of an affront is proportional to the dignity of the person towards whom it is directed. Since then the insult in using God’s name in vain is offered to the ineffable majesty of God, it is then serious and not minor.

Show me in the catechism.