Is secularism easy or difficult to live up?

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I don’t know what one would be living up to as a secularist… but to live as a secularist, on the one hand is easy *because *there are few standards (you have to be PC, but behaviorally, there’s not a lot of requirements).

But living as a secularist has its downside: there is no point to anything anyone does, and ultimately, that is pretty depressing. This is why I think they lionize those who they see as having suffered: because they are assumed to have experienced something which makes them have to look at life less superficially.
 
St_Francis said:
I don’t know what one would be living up to as a secularist… but to live as a secularist, on the one hand is easy *because *there are few standards (you have to be PC, but behaviorally, there’s not a lot of requirements).

But living as a secularist has its downside: there is no point to anything anyone does, and ultimately, that is pretty depressing. This is why I think they lionize those who they see as having suffered: because they are assumed to have experienced something which makes them have to look at life less superficially.
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Pag_Hingowa said:
Please explain why easy or why difficult.
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Secularism as understood as absorbed in earthly wealth is difficult, when not permitted by the living God, who knows me well.

For me secularism never worked out in peace, because I needed Jesus from the very moment I was conceived and always saw God as my caring Father. I was drawn and always looked for my creator. I looked for love, the true love and could only find through his care and mercy in my parents, brothers, sisters, aunties…

Secularism is only easy, if you have never been in need of God and don’t want to know him. The prize for this wickedness is restlessness and a culture of death.
 
Thanks for the responses. Can anyone expound “why should we live a Christian morality”?
 
Pag_Hingowa said:
Thanks for the responses. Can anyone expound “why should we live a Christian morality”?
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I guess we can all come up with elaborate explanations on why Christianity and its morality is better than other belief systems, including secularism. But in the end the only thing that matters is that Christianity is true, therefore its morality is God’s law and if we follow it we do God’s will.
 
Contra_Mundum said:
I guess we can all come up with elaborate explanations on why Christianity and its morality is better than other belief systems, including secularism. But in the end the only thing that matters is that Christianity is true, therefore its morality is God’s law and if we follow it we do God’s will.
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Agreed, but we as individuals have a history and belong to certain groups, we of necessity will assimilate the values we have been exposed to.
 
Pag_Hingowa said:
Please explain why easy or why difficult.
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I’m not sure I understand the question. Being a secularist only means you favour a secular form of government (obviously :P) over a religious one.

So for example, if you think that a politician shouldn’t have to take a religious test to hold a certain office you favour a secularist position and are in a limited sense a secularist.

It’s not really hard to live up to, assuming you aren’t surrounded by people who aggressively disagree with you.
 
Sorry if this skews a teeny bit off topic, but here goes:

Since Time will have no meaning in Eternity, all the cultures that had those willing to embrace Christ will be seen. So first, I guess, a “Base Culture of Fundamental Rights for Citizens” had to be drawn up. This would be the “10 Commandments”. (This also strikes me as the wedding invitation of the Bridegroom – the first Commandments dealing with how creatures relate to God, the second parts on how creatures relate to others.) This is also reflected in the New Testament Great Two commandments “Love the Lord with All your heart, all your soul, all your mind, and all your strength” and “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

The beauty of these this Biblical lesson is that a reader could draw up the underlying idea, that when we all meet in Heaven, people who are thousands of years old will have the same Basic Culture expectations as people who are hundreds of years, as people who just met Christ due to His eventual Second Coming. (But while we are on Earth, they are mostly just training wheels for our souls, like getting used to riding a bicycle.)

The 10 + 2 Commandments – My Bill of Rights as a Citizen of the Eternal Kingdom, and Yours too.
 
Alder said:
I’m not sure I understand the question. Being a secularist only means you favour a secular form of government (obviously :P) over a religious one.
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Wikipedia - Secularism said:
Secularism is the concept that government or other entities should exist separately from religion and/or religious beliefs.
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Pag_Hingowa said:
Wikipedia - Secularism said:
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i may have misunderstood the question you were asking. You asked if secularism were difficult to live up… in English (which I understand may not be your first language), this looks like it should be Is secularism difficult to live up TO? Or it could be is secularism difficult to live?

Either way, it doesn’t really connect with the government aspect. Is secularism difficult to live *under? *would be that question.

I personally think that the use of prepositions are the hardesst part about learning a language, and when you consider how English uses them, shew! practically impossible!

However, is secularism difficult to live under… long answer. Can’t do it now.
 
Secularism is easy. Christ calls us to suffer for Him and with Him. He gives us His love freely but calls us to work towards serving one another. Christ calls us to a very difficult life (in terms of comparison to the instant luxuries that come with secularism). Living a moral life as Christ commands us is infinitely rewarding in and of itself. Secularism, on the other hand, gives instant pleasure. This happiness is fleeting however. You jump from one material happiness to another until the next thing you know your entire life has passed you by. That’s when it all comes into perspective. That’s a very dark place to be for our poor brothers and sisters who find themselves there. The only way we as humans can truly be happy is to serve Christ. As St. Augustine said, God made our hearts and our hearts will be restless until they rest in Him (paraphrasing again because I don’t know word for word how it went)
 
Alder said:
Isn’t that what I just said…?
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Yes, but you also said you’re not sure if you understood my question so I thought you want me to define what I meant by the term I used in my OP.
 
Pag_Hingowa said:
Yes, but you also said you’re not sure if you understood my question so I thought you want me to define what I meant by the term I used in my OP.
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Sorry about that. It wasn’t the definition of secularism but the wording of the question I didn’t understand .

Are you asking whether it is difficult or easy to live in secular society?
 
Alder said:
Sorry about that. It wasn’t the definition of secularism but the wording of the question I didn’t understand .

Are you asking whether it is difficult or easy to live in secular society?
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Yes, you are right. Please excuse my poor english.
 
Isn’t the case that if you don’t live in a secular state you are approaching what could be described as a theocracy?
 
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