Is smoking Marijuana sinful?

[GodLovesTheSpek]

If you can drink a few drinks socially and it not be a sin, then there is no reason why you can’t smoke a bowl with some friends and watch a movie without it being a sin.

Fifth Commandment still applies. Funding murder still applies. Funding weapons sales and terrorism still applies. Evil begets evil. If someone explodes a “dirty bomb” wherever take a look at “the weed”. Then look at the film of the aftermath of the dirty bomb. Enjoy the movie, it was paid for.

 

[pcg2]

You didn’t read the Catechism sections concerning the Fifth Commandment. It is not just a “legal” issue. The original question is: “Is smoking Marijuana sinful?”

2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.

I agree… with drugs that are actually harmful to you.

I guess in order to further this discussion we have to clear a few things. It is a well-known fact that marijuana is no worse for you than drinking alcohol (in fact, it can be argued that alcohol is even worse for one’s health.) It can be argued that people who are against marijuana have their opinions rooted in misinformed stigmas about how “bad” pot is for you.

With those things in mind, why is smoking marijuana (in moderation) sinful while drinking alcohol (in moderation) is not?

 

[GodLovesTheSpek]

So, it’s sinful for an elderly Catholic to relieve pain with controlled usage of a substance that some jurisdictions deem lawful? That would be “smoking marijuana,” would it not?

Read the Catechism concerning the Fifth Commandment: vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm

For the ones that can be led but won’t drink (but will justify trying anything else): (a little bit of levity)

2291 The use of drugs inflicts very grave damage on human health and life. Their use, except on strictly therapeutic grounds, is a grave offense. Clandestine production of and trafficking in drugs are scandalous practices. They constitute direct co-operation in evil, since they encourage people to practices gravely contrary to the moral law.

 

[GodLovesTheSpek]

With those things in mind, why is smoking marijuana (in moderation) sinful while drinking alcohol (in moderation) is not?

It’s not a question of moderation. It’s a question of sin, of evil and obeying The Catholic Church.

Has it been tried to look a the pictures of the deaths of the Mexico drug cartel war? If so, then the bloody, exposed cranial cavities were “moderately” paid for.

 

[BobObob]

When it is said that marijuana is not addictive, it is usually meant that it is not chemically addictive. Virtually anything can be psychologically addictive. Caffeine is more chemically addicting than marijuana.

drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100329170600AAYKpU9

When using any drug (caffeine, alcohol, marijuana, etc.) one must reasonably educate themselves on the possible risks associated with taking such drugs, and act responsibly.

Regarding medical use of marijuana, Marinol (the drug touted as the legal medical marijuana substitute) has more problems than marijuana. It’s more dangerous and doesn’t have all the medicinal uses than one might use marijuana for.

Regarding the dangers of marijuana use, Lester Grinspoon MD, professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School, said, “Marijuana is remarkably non toxic. In all the years that marijuana has been used, there’s not been one single documented death from it. I don’t know that you can say the same thing about any other drug.” (abc.net.au/quantum/poison/marijuan/lester.htm ) Of course, virtually all substances have at least some risks, but alcohol is a LOT more harmful to one’s body than marijuana.

I want to also add that there are certain risks, such as lung cancer, which are associated with smoking marijuana, but not vaporizing or baking it.

Laws against marijuana were originally made because Congressmen gave in to lobbyists from DuPont and due to racism (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States#Marijuana_Tax_Act_.281937.29)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont)). In fact, a Texas Senator said, on the floor of the Senate, “All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.” (drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/) (druglibrary.org/olsen/dpf/whitebread05.html ) This is relevant to this discussion because just like the evil intention of an otherwise good action makes the act evil, the evil intention of a law makes it a bad law (and thus not binding in conscience).

As a theology major at a conservative Catholic college who is entering my senior year, I understand that the Catechism of the Catholic Church isn’t by any means infallible in itself, but rather is like a compendium of Catholic teaching that is based largely off of documents it cites which often contain authoritative, and sometimes even infallible, teachings. It is to be “[A] sure norm for teaching the faith (vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_19921011_fidei-depositum_en.html ) rather than a dogmatic proclimation of new teachings. I don’t want to get into this here and now (because this would be getting off-topic), but not everything in the CCC is absolute.

Regarding the teaching of the Catholic Church on obeying laws, there is nothing that reaches the level of dogma, and not even anything that I know of that all Catholics are absolutely bound to.

A lot of what influences what the CCC says regarding governing authorities came from the philosophy of divine rule, the idea that a government’s temporal power comes from God. This is extremely problematic since all governments, except for ancient Israel, were founded by man, and any government that claims otherwise may deny being accountable to anyone but God. It’s extremely dangerous because in it’s most radical forms can be ideal conditions for tyranny.

The more important thing that influences what the CCC says regarding governing authorities is doing what’s best for society. Generally, it’s best for society for people to obey almost all laws.

If one isn’t doing something immoral in itself (like wreckless driving or getting drunk) then IMHO it is moral to break the law if you are capable of taking the risk of the civil penalties. This is why one may morally drive drive 70 mph on a road with a speed limit of 65 and risk getting a ticket if it’s safe to drive at that speed in that situation. On the other hand, if one has children who are dependent on him, one may not risk being put in jail (since doing so would be risking the welfare of the children), even for something that is not immoral in itself (unless it is a double effect situation).

 

[BobObob]

It seems that God commanded Moses to include cannabis in the holy anointing oil to use in the temple in Exodus 30:22-29 (according to many scholars).

vodpod.com/watch/839655-marijuana-in-the-bible-jesus-annointing-oil
diversesanctuary.ning.com/page/cannabis-the-holy-anointing

BTW, I don’t endorse all the views expressed in the previous video.

 

[ThomasToo]

It’s not a question of moderation. It’s a question of sin, of evil and obeying The Catholic Church.

Has it been tried to look a the pictures of the deaths of the Mexico drug cartel war? If so, then the bloody, exposed cranial cavities were “moderately” paid for.

Those deaths have much more to do with marijuana being treated as a Schedule 1 narcotic–despite relevant scientific data refuting both criteria for placing something at that level–than with marijuana as such. If marijuana were legalized (or one were somewhere it is legal) then the issue you present evaporates.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

Read this article about schizophrenia and marijuana…it seems like weed doesn’t cause psychosis.

Anyway, weed as a gateway drug is ONLY a product of it being illegal. If weed were legal, it would be no more of a gateway drug than alcohol. If someone legally goes into a store and buys weed, they are unlikely to then seek out harder drugs illegally.

As for your forgetful friend…obviously he is going to forget things while he is high. How would a drunk person do at a job?

As for your theory of hydroponic chemicals going to your brain…I have NEVER heard that at all. Do you have a source for that claim? It sounds like some propaganda to me.

Quote lifted from the following link.

emaxhealth.com/1035/7/29167/does-marijuana-cause-mental-illness.html

Researchers at Yale University School of Medicine report that cannabinoids, which are the active ingredient in marijuana, can induce acute transient mental illnesses, particularly psychotic symptoms, including paranoia and acute psychosis in some individuals. As to why some people experience this and others don’t remains unclear. The Yale researchers also note that in individuals with an established psychotic disorder, cannabinoids can exacerbate or worsen psychotic symptoms. These exacerbations can persist long past the period of intoxication. Available evidence suggests a causal relationship between marijuana, psychosis and the development of schizophrenia. However, because most people who use marijuana don’t develop these disorders, the Yale researchers theorize that cannabinoids interact with another component, perhaps genetic risk, that predisposes them to psychosis. Dysfunction of the CB1 receptor has been proposed as a possible risk factor and is being further investigated.

Worldwide, researchers are studying the effects of marijuana on mental health. In 2008, French researchers published a study in which they evaluated 32 cannabis abusers along with 30 healthy controls using self-reports. Their study showed that cannabis abusers were more likely to have mood and anxiety disorders and to experience high levels of psychological distress, trait anxiety, physical anhedonia, and sensation seeking than controls. A similar study from the Netherlands showed that acute cannabis use can cause memory impairment persisting for months after its use. Cannabis, however, showed no changes in brain anatomy based on MRI reports.

From another site -

"Is Marijuana a “Gateway Drug?”

There has been a great deal of debate concerning the dangers of marijuana use. While its effects may be seen as benign when compared to other drugs, many believe that marijuana can often be the starting point for a person’s experimentations with drugs. A recent study in New Zealand found that 99% of other illicit drug users had previously used marijuana.8 However, a majority of marijuana users studied (63%) did not progress to the use of other illicit drugs. There is still no conclusive evidence that marijuana is, in fact, a gateway drug, though it is clear that most illicit drug users have experimented with marijuana at some point in time. Although marijuana may not necessarily be a “gateway drug” for all users, its use constitutes engagement in risky behavior and may set a pattern for future behavior."

On the business of hydroponic chemicals, my source was a chap I know who’s son has developed clinical depression (I think). He was, and still may be, a heavy smoker of marijuana. The father also had a lot of experience growing hydroponic vegetables, and knew first hand the chemicals that are put in the water.

As far as the father was concerned, his son’s mental illness was at least partly due to the son’s heavy marijuana usage.

And finally, what are you going to tell God on Judgment Day? I smoked a lot of pot? It reminds me of some youth who’s first question about religion was “Does God care if we smoke or drink?” Which indicates their concern for God is zilch. It’s all about them.

 

[bingbang]

Fifth Commandment still applies. Funding murder still applies. Funding weapons sales and terrorism still applies. Evil begets evil. If someone explodes a “dirty bomb” wherever take a look at “the weed”. Then look at the film of the aftermath of the dirty bomb. Enjoy the movie, it was paid for.

lol…the whole :“weed supports terrorism” thing. Wow, I didn’t think anyone actually believed that. Most of the weed sold and smoked in America comes from Canada, Mexico, or right here in the USA. And the only reason that weed supports organized crime is because of its legal status…just like alcohol in the prohibition. Terrorists don’t make money off of weed.

 

[bingbang]

It’s not a question of moderation. It’s a question of sin, of evil and obeying The Catholic Church.

Has it been tried to look a the pictures of the deaths of the Mexico drug cartel war? If so, then the bloody, exposed cranial cavities were “moderately” paid for.

OK, what if I grow my own weed or buy it off my friend that grew it? Right from the plant into my lungs…is it OK then?

 

[bingbang]

When it is said that marijuana is not addictive, it is usually meant that it is not chemically addictive. Virtually anything can be psychologically addictive. Caffeine is more chemically addicting than marijuana.

drugtext.org/sub/marmyt1.html
answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100329170600AAYKpU9

When using any drug (caffeine, alcohol, marijuana, etc.) one must reasonably educate themselves on the possible risks associated with taking such drugs, and act responsibly.

Regarding medical use of marijuana, Marinol (the drug touted as the legal medical marijuana substitute) has more problems than marijuana. It’s more dangerous and doesn’t have all the medicinal uses than one might use marijuana for.

Regarding the dangers of marijuana use, Lester Grinspoon MD, professor of psychiatry at the Harvard Medical School, said, “Marijuana is remarkably non toxic. In all the years that marijuana has been used, there’s not been one single documented death from it. I don’t know that you can say the same thing about any other drug.” (abc.net.au/quantum/poison/marijuan/lester.htm ) Of course, virtually all substances have at least some risks, but alcohol is a LOT more harmful to one’s body than marijuana.

I want to also add that there are certain risks, such as lung cancer, which are associated with smoking marijuana, but not vaporizing or baking it.

Laws against marijuana were originally made because Congressmen gave in to lobbyists from DuPont and due to racism (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_history_of_cannabis_in_the_United_States#Marijuana_Tax_Act_.281937.29)(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont)). In fact, a Texas Senator said, on the floor of the Senate, “All Mexicans are crazy, and this stuff [marijuana] is what makes them crazy.” (drugwarrant.com/articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/) (druglibrary.org/olsen/dpf/whitebread05.html ) This is relevant to this discussion because just like the evil intention of an otherwise good action makes the act evil, the evil intention of a law makes it a bad law (and thus not binding in conscience).

As a theology major at a conservative Catholic college who is entering my senior year, I understand that the Catechism of the Catholic Church isn’t by any means infallible in itself, but rather is like a compendium of Catholic teaching that is based largely off of documents it cites which often contain authoritative, and sometimes even infallible, teachings. It is to be “[A] sure norm for teaching the faith (vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/apost_constitutions/documents/hf_jp-ii_apc_19921011_fidei-depositum_en.html ) rather than a dogmatic proclimation of new teachings. I don’t want to get into this here and now (because this would be getting off-topic), but not everything in the CCC is absolute.

Regarding the teaching of the Catholic Church on obeying laws, there is nothing that reaches the level of dogma, and not even anything that I know of that all Catholics are absolutely bound to.

A lot of what influences what the CCC says regarding governing authorities came from the philosophy of divine rule, the idea that a government’s temporal power comes from God. This is extremely problematic since all governments, except for ancient Israel, were founded by man, and any government that claims otherwise may deny being accountable to anyone but God. It’s extremely dangerous because in it’s most radical forms can be ideal conditions for tyranny.

The more important thing that influences what the CCC says regarding governing authorities is doing what’s best for society. Generally, it’s best for society for people to obey almost all laws.

If one isn’t doing something immoral in itself (like wreckless driving or getting drunk) then IMHO it is moral to break the law if you are capable of taking the risk of the civil penalties. This is why one may morally drive drive 70 mph on a road with a speed limit of 65 and risk getting a ticket if it’s safe to drive at that speed in that situation. On the other hand, if one has children who are dependent on him, one may not risk being put in jail (since doing so would be risking the welfare of the children), even for something that is not immoral in itself (unless it is a double effect situation).

GREAT post!

 

[bingbang]

Quote lifted from the following link.

emaxhealth.com/1035/7/29167/does-marijuana-cause-mental-illness.html

From another site -

On the business of hydroponic chemicals, my source was a chap I know who’s son has developed clinical depression (I think). He was, and still may be, a heavy smoker of marijuana. The father also had a lot of experience growing hydroponic vegetables, and knew first hand the chemicals that are put in the water.

As far as the father was concerned, his son’s mental illness was at least partly due to the son’s heavy marijuana usage.

And finally, what are you going to tell God on Judgment Day? I smoked a lot of pot? It reminds me of some youth who’s first question about religion was “Does God care if we smoke or drink?” Which indicates their concern for God is zilch. It’s all about them.

OK, so you have absolutely no proof of the hydroponic chemical thing…just something that someone told you.

Basically what the quotes said was that people that are genetically pre disposed to mental illness might have the process sped up or increased by marijuana use. So it doesn’t cause anything really.

Also, look at this quote from your post:

“Worldwide, researchers are studying the effects of marijuana on mental health. In 2008, French researchers published a study in which they evaluated 32 cannabis abusers along with 30 healthy controls using self-reports. Their study showed that cannabis abusers were more likely to have mood and anxiety disorders and to experience high levels of psychological distress, trait anxiety, physical anhedonia, and sensation seeking than controls. A similar study from the Netherlands showed that acute cannabis use can cause memory impairment persisting for months after its use. Cannabis, however, showed no changes in brain anatomy based on MRI reports.”

It said that the weed smokers had mood and anxiety disorders, etc. But did the weed cause those or are they just self medicating for their problems? Have you ever thought of that? That maybe the people with those problems to begin with become heavy marijuana users as a possibly unconscious self medication. The link I gave was basically saying that people that smoke marijuana are more likely to have schizophrenia than the general public, but a large increase in marijuana use has left the schizophrenia rates completely unchanged…if it really caused schizophrenia then increased marijuana rates should cause increased schizophrenia rates…but it didn’t.

Of all my very good friends from my high school that I used to smoke a lot of weed with, almost all of them have mental problems (including myself to be honest). But I believe that these mental problems are the reason we smoked so much weed to begin with, not that the weed caused these mental problems. And if that were true, the evidence would look exactly as it does. Correlation does not equal causation.

Anyway, if we are going to talk about the dangers of an action as a reason not to do it morally, we should talk about mountain biking or playing lacrosse as well. Those things can cause far more damage to someone than smoking weed.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

OK, so you have absolutely no proof of the hydroponic chemical thing…just something that someone told you.

Basically what the quotes said was that people that are genetically pre disposed to mental illness might have the process sped up or increased by marijuana use. So it doesn’t cause anything really.

Also, look at this quote from your post:

“Worldwide, researchers are studying the effects of marijuana on mental health. In 2008, French researchers published a study in which they evaluated 32 cannabis abusers along with 30 healthy controls using self-reports. Their study showed that cannabis abusers were more likely to have mood and anxiety disorders and to experience high levels of psychological distress, trait anxiety, physical anhedonia, and sensation seeking than controls. A similar study from the Netherlands showed that acute cannabis use can cause memory impairment persisting for months after its use. Cannabis, however, showed no changes in brain anatomy based on MRI reports.”

It said that the weed smokers had mood and anxiety disorders, etc. But did the weed cause those or are they just self medicating for their problems? Have you ever thought of that? That maybe the people with those problems to begin with become heavy marijuana users as a possibly unconscious self medication. The link I gave was basically saying that people that smoke marijuana are more likely to have schizophrenia than the general public, but a large increase in marijuana use has left the schizophrenia rates completely unchanged…if it really caused schizophrenia then increased marijuana rates should cause increased schizophrenia rates…but it didn’t.

Of all my very good friends from my high school that I used to smoke a lot of weed with, almost all of them have mental problems (including myself to be honest). But I believe that these mental problems are the reason we smoked so much weed to begin with, not that the weed caused these mental problems. And if that were true, the evidence would look exactly as it does. Correlation does not equal causation.

Anyway, if we are going to talk about the dangers of an action as a reason not to do it morally, we should talk about mountain biking or playing lacrosse as well. Those things can cause far more damage to someone than smoking weed.

I’ll go back to the young bloke we had on the project. His short term memory was shot. Nor was he directly under the influence of pot at the time. He may have been smoking the stuff the night before. We had no evidence he was using it on the job. He’d have been dismissed if he had.

We ended up sacking him anyway. He was dangerous to himself and others.

Not long afterwards he came looking for help as he was on the street. It seems his family kicked him out. Yet some time later I saw him running down the street, doing what appeared to be fitness training, so I assume he’d started to get himself sorted out. He certainly looked much healthier and far more alert.

But I’ll say it again, while he was on the weed, even if it had been the night before, his memory was woeful. I remember his general employment agent saying he’d thrown away a number of good opportunities, and when I asked why, the answer I got was “Heavy and prolonged use of pot”.

It does a lot of damage.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

Of all my very good friends from my high school that I used to smoke a lot of weed with, almost all of them have mental problems (including myself to be honest). But I believe that these mental problems are the reason we smoked so much weed to begin with, not that the weed caused these mental problems. And if that were true, the evidence would look exactly as it does. Correlation does not equal causation.

And you can claim with absolute certainty that although “**all **of them have mental problems” not one of them can be atttributed to the use of pot?

I think some of them owe their mental problems to marijuana in part at least.

But all you’re really after is an excuse to keep on smoking the stuff. Right?

 

[bingbang]

I’ll go back to the young bloke we had on the project. His short term memory was shot. Nor was he directly under the influence of pot at the time. He may have been smoking the stuff the night before. We had no evidence he was using it on the job. He’d have been dismissed if he had.

We ended up sacking him anyway. He was dangerous to himself and others.

Not long afterwards he came looking for help as he was on the street. It seems his family kicked him out. Yet some time later I saw him running down the street, doing what appeared to be fitness training, so I assume he’d started to get himself sorted out. He certainly looked much healthier and far more alert.

But I’ll say it again, while he was on the weed, even if it had been the night before, his memory was woeful. I remember his general employment agent saying he’d thrown away a number of good opportunities, and when I asked why, the answer I got was “Heavy and prolonged use of pot”.

It does a lot of damage.

Weed can slow you down but it doesn’t have that effect on everyone. Take Joe Rogan for instance. He announces for the UFC and has a very quick wit. He smokes all the time and talks about it often. Obviously weed doesn’t have the same effect on everyone.

Anyway, I didn’t smoke weed yesterday and actually plan on not smoking weed any more. It isn’t really for me as it isn’t much fun anymore. I am addicted to it. Just as some people shouldn’t drink alcohol because they can’t control themselves, some people shouldn’t smoke weed. But that doesn’t mean that no one should drink or smoke weed ever.

I know a few people that have died due to drunk driving. I have never heard of anyone dieing from smoking weed. If someone smokes a little bit of weed to hang out or just to relieve some stress every now and again, I see no reason for them to stop. If someone cannot control their smoking and smoke constantly, then they probably should abstain completely.

As for my friends, I truly believe that it was the mental problems that caused the heavy weed usage. As you might have noticed, I mentioned that these were my friends from high school. My friends from College smoked an equal amount of weed, but none of them had mental problems at all. hmmm…maybe it isn’t the weed after all.

 

[Bob_Crowley]

Generally speaking we don’t hear much about accidents on work sites or roads due to drug taking, partly because alcohol is much more readliy available, and more likely to be implicated.

But marijuana has a role.

From the National Institute of Drug Abuse -

"Students who smoke marijuana get lower grades and are less likely to graduate from high school, compared with their nonsmoking peers.20,45,46,47

Workers who smoke marijuana are more likely than their coworkers to have problems on the job. Several studies have associated workers’ marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers’ compensation claims, and job turnover. **A study among postal workers found that employees who tested positive for marijuana on a pre-employment urine drug test had 55 percent more industrial accidents, 85 percent more injuries, and a 75 percent increase in absenteeism compared with those who tested negative for marijuana use.**48"

 

[bingbang]

Generally speaking we don’t hear much about accidents on work sites or roads due to drug taking, partly because alcohol is much more readliy available, and more likely to be implicated.

But marijuana has a role.

From the National Institute of Drug Abuse -

lol, why did they get hired if they tested positive for marijuana? What is the point of giving people a drug test if you are going to disregard it?

Anyway, it probably isn’t advised to smoke weed and drive. But it is safer than drinking and driving…and when someone is too high to drive they are more likely to realize it and not drive. When someone is too drunk to drive they almost always think they are OK to drive.

And according to a recent study, the effects of marijuana on driving are negligible. I would never drive high now though, even though I have in the past.

norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=8197

 

[bingbang]

In terms of morality marijuana is no different than alcohol. In excess, marijuana can be sinful, especially if it effects your life and how you treat others. In moderation it is perfectly acceptable. Other than the legality of it, there should be no reason why alcohol in moderation is ok and marijuana is not. Both have health risks and alcohol seems to be much worse on the body than marijuana.

And if you are worrying about the legality of weed and if it is sinful, is going over the speed or jaywalking sinful?

If you worry that you are supporting terrorism or organized crime, you can grow your own or find a grower that you know personally.

There isn’t really much more to it than that.

 

[NewsTheMan]

In terms of morality marijuana is no different than alcohol. In excess, marijuana can be sinful, especially if it effects your life and how you treat others. In moderation it is perfectly acceptable. Other than the legality of it, there should be no reason why alcohol in moderation is ok and marijuana is not. Both have health risks and alcohol seems to be much worse on the body than marijuana.

And if you are worrying about the legality of weed and if it is sinful, is going over the speed or jaywalking sinful?

If you worry that you are supporting terrorism or organized crime, you can grow your own or find a grower that you know personally.

There isn’t really much more to it than that.

Bravo. Agreed. People who claim its all or nothing with weed have obviously never ever smoked it/smoked it once. I was a stoner just about up until I found my faith again (haven’t touched it since). I smoked every day up to 3 times a day for 8 months straight. I wrote university exams stoned. I drove stoned. I did well, and I didn’t crash. Getting high has degrees of highness. And no matter what people say - Marijuana is just much better for you than alcohol in terms of health and in terms of the experience. Has anybody ever got high and say… beat his wife? Got in a bar fight? List goes on. I will not smoke weed because the Church says I shouldn’t, even though there is nothing more I disagree on in this world than this teaching. It is totally bias and actually secular based.

p.s. I noticed the irony in a statement above (or way above). Someone was mentioning how bad the effects of marijuana are on health etc. Then a few sentences later said how its given to cancer patients in appropriate circumstances which is cool. The contradiction screams at me. Yeah, lets give something bad to cancer patients. Sigh.

 

[nickybr38]

Bravo. Agreed. People who claim its all or nothing with weed have obviously never ever smoked it/smoked it once. I was a stoner just about up until I found my faith again (haven’t touched it since). I smoked every day up to 3 times a day for 8 months straight. I wrote university exams stoned. I drove stoned. I did well, and I didn’t crash. Getting high has degrees of highness. And no matter what people say - Marijuana is just much better for you than alcohol in terms of health and in terms of the experience. Has anybody ever got high and say… beat his wife? Got in a bar fight? List goes on. I will not smoke weed because the Church says I shouldn’t, even though there is nothing more I disagree on in this world than this teaching. It is totally bias and actually secular based.

p.s. I noticed the irony in a statement above (or way above). Someone was mentioning how bad the effects of marijuana are on health etc. Then a few sentences later said how its given to cancer patients in appropriate circumstances which is cool. The contradiction screams at me. Yeah, lets give something bad to cancer patients. Sigh.

I just want to repeat that you have to consider your motivation. What is your motivation for wanting to smoke marijuana? I’m fairly certain you will find the sin of the thing there.