Is Stephen Colbert a Liberal Catholic?

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Recently I heard that Stephen Colbert was a Catholic. I had watched a few of his videos before and thought he was pretty funny. Watching a few videos, I noticed that is rather proud of his Catholicism. He is a self professed practicing Catholic, and I saw the video where he used an Elephant metaphor to a skeptic to describe why the Gospels seemed different. Needless to say, I was impressed. Problem is though, I watched a few more videos of him on the Colbertnation and saw this video and another one of him mocking an anti gay marriage commercial, and waving the gay flag.

colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/168731/may-27-2008/tony-perkins

I don’t know about you guys, but if you call yourself a "practicing Catholic, especially if you say it time and time again on a TV show, then you need to follow EVERYTHING that Christ has revealed to us through his Church.

Let me know what you think.

PAX
 
The magazine Rolling Stone interviewed Stephen Colbert in 2009. Here is what he had to say on the topic of religion.
Would your family all sing carols on Christmas Eve?
Sure, we’d process through the house, and we still do it. My family is 50 people now — nieces and nephews and that sort of thing — and we process from the youngest to the oldest. The youngest puts the baby Jesus in the manger on Christmas Eve and we sing “Silent Night.” It’s very traditional.
Does faith still play a big part in your life?
Very much. I am highly variable in my devotion. From a doctrinal point of view or a dogmatic point of view or a strictly Catholic adherent point of view, I’m first to say that I talk a good game, but I don’t know how good I am about it in practice. I saw how my mother’s faith was very valuable to her and valuable to my brothers and sisters, and I’m moved by the words of Christ, and I’ll leave it at that.
But you do teach Sunday school?
I teach the seven year olds. I’m the catechist for their first communion.
catholiccolbert.wordpress.com/

And here is his take on his religious humor, from a 2006 interview:
I love my Church, and I’m a Catholic who was raised by intellectuals, who were very devout. I was raised to believe that you could question the Church and still be a Catholic. What is worthy of satire is the misuse of religion for destructive or political gains. That’s totally different from the Word, the blood, the body and the Christ. His kingdom is not of this earth.
urbanhonking.com/holymoly/archives/2006/05/stephen_colbert.html
 
I actually like that 2nd quote. I think we should be free to question, as long as we aren’t causing scandal or demanding the Church change to OUR ideas. Questioning is good, it is what led me to the Church.
 
Recently I heard that Stephen Colbert was a Catholic. I had watched a few of his videos before and thought he was pretty funny. Watching a few videos, I noticed that is rather proud of his Catholicism. He is a self professed practicing Catholic, and I saw the video where he used an Elephant metaphor to a skeptic to describe why the Gospels seemed different. Needless to say, I was impressed. Problem is though, I watched a few more videos of him on the Colbertnation and saw this video and another one of him mocking an anti gay marriage commercial, and waving the gay flag.

colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/168731/may-27-2008/tony-perkins

I don’t know about you guys, but if you call yourself a "practicing Catholic, especially if you say it time and time again on a TV show, then you need to follow EVERYTHING that Christ has revealed to us through his Church.

Let me know what you think.

PAX
I think you have to understand his show is full of satire and its not a statement of his own personal beliefs. I watch his show occasionally, I’ve never found his humor to go against Church beliefs, but more it makes you think about what he’s focusing his humor on and how ridiculous it can be. He’s making fun of our society being politically correct, he’s making fun of the media and I think he does a pretty good job of it. I find his humor to be very intelligent.
 
Liberal/Conservative or not, I sort of like the saying, “He’s not much of a Catholic, but at least he is a Catholic!” or, “Sure, he’s a scoundrel, and he is our scoundrel!”
 
Colbert’s brand of humor is satire. Oftentimes he will illustrate a point by beng very, um, extreme and serious about it. He claims to imitate Bill O’Reilly and another pundit whose name I cannot recall at this time.

Here’s a good one he’s done:
youtube.com/watch?v=oASYa-Wkroc%between%

Does that mean he supports liturgica dance? I think not!
 
Doesn’t matter if you’re a liberal, as long as you’re in Communion with the Church, that’s what really matters.
 
Following “everything” is a recipe for disaster.

The best saints were once called heretics.
 
My take is that people underestimated him form the beginning and now they are following in his trap. They though that he was a big pinko liberal making fun of everything conservative, but with time his true colors are showing. Every time I see his show I cringe because of his religious take on things, but I have not seen anything that goes against the teachings of the Church, and maybe that he is way to evangelize people that would not touch Christianity with a ten foot pole.
 
My take is that people underestimated him form the beginning and now they are following in his trap. They though that he was a big pinko liberal making fun of everything conservative, but with time his true colors are showing. Every time I see his show I cringe because of his religious take on things, but I have not seen anything that goes against the teachings of the Church, and maybe that he is way to evangelize people that would not touch Christianity with a ten foot pole.
Us Southerners (and Colbert is a Southerner) knew from the git-go that Colbert wasn’t simply ‘trashing’ Catholicism or Christianity in his satire. Actually, what he is doing is much more complex, and not easily understood by the average Christianity-phobic, secular revolutionary. And, what he is doing is equally not easily understood by the fundamentalists of the Christian persuasion.
 
I don’t want to come off sounding to crazy and fundamentalist, but I am to be confirmed a Catholic in a couple months, and I am at a point where I am taking the Catholic Faith VERY seriously. My concern is, as with all Media outlets, is that as a self-professed Practicing Catholic and Sunday School Teacher, he could possibly be confusing some Catholic Viewers that watch his show, and as a soon to be Catholic, should I be endorsing his views by watching his show. Now, of course, this is all rest on the assumption that he does support gay rights. It is hard for me to tell where he stands on all Catholic issues since it is Satire.

Another thing, what I mean by Liberal Catholics, is those that choose what articles of faith they want to live by. I have nothing wrong with Liberals, but if you are a Catholic that supports Abortion, Gay Marriage, Socialism, or Communism, then you are wrong.
Following “everything” is a recipe for disaster.

The best saints were once called heretics.
Forgive me, but the Church is the Pillar and Foundation of all Truth. Why would got found an infallible Church that would lead us to disaster?
 
I don’t want to come off sounding to crazy and fundamentalist, but I am to be confirmed a Catholic in a couple months, and I am at a point where I am taking the Catholic Faith VERY seriously. My concern is, as with all Media outlets, is that as a self-professed Practicing Catholic and Sunday School Teacher, he could possibly be confusing some Catholic Viewers that watch his show, and as a soon to be Catholic, should I be endorsing his views by watching his show. Now, of course, this is all rest on the assumption that he does support gay rights. It is hard for me to tell where he stands on all Catholic issues since it is Satire.
It seems pretty clear that Colbert (in real life) does support gay rights and probably gay civil unions. His satire points in that direction. But his satire also points in the direction of taking Christianity (and Catholicism) seriously.
Forgive me, but the Church is the Pillar and Foundation of all Truth. Why would got found an infallible Church that would lead us to disaster?
Let me just say that “everything” in the Church includes “everything”: from dogma to religious opinion, from Tradition to custom. In that sense, following “everything” is a recipe for disaster.
 
Following “everything” is a recipe for disaster.

The best saints were once called heretics.
Yeah - but then they converted. That’s how they became Saints. Nobody has ever remained in heresy, and then became a Saint.

I was once a heretic, too, but then I became a Catholic nearly ten years ago, and hopefully I will one day become a Saint. 🙂
 
I file him under my “Unclear stances on many issues-prayer for this man is highly recommended” department…
 
I’ve always loved the “King of Glory” video. There’s nothing to defend with Liturgical Dance, and Colbert is a comedian known for satirical humor…it was bound to happen.

And why are we debating the Catholic-ness of Colbert to begin with? Since we’re debating the authenticity of a celebrity’s faith, let’s also talk about Mel Gibson’s, Joe Biden’s, Pres. John F. Kennedy, Lady Gaga…etc.

You see where I’m getting at?
 
I’ve always loved the “King of Glory” video. There’s nothing to defend with Liturgical Dance, and Colbert is a comedian known for satirical humor…it was bound to happen.

And why are we debating the Catholic-ness of Colbert to begin with? Since we’re debating the authenticity of a celebrity’s faith, let’s also talk about Mel Gibson’s, Joe Biden’s, Pres. John F. Kennedy, Lady Gaga…etc.

You see where I’m getting at?
That “King of Glory” video makes me howl with laughter, as I find it a delightful satire of the (usually very, very bad) liturgical dance I have witnessed on occasion. (In settings outside of the actual Liturgy, I have no objection, except with regard to quality.)
 
  1. Saints were not heretics. That’s absurd. As someone already said, they may have been heretics before conversion or before really becoming authentic Catholics and not “American Catholics”, cafeteria Catholics, or lip-service Catholics. A saint cannot by definition be a heretic. Sounds to me like some of you want to glorify rebelliousness against the Church while remaining Catholic. It’s not possible. No saint was a dissenter for as long as he was a saint.
  2. The reason one should pay more attention to the Catholicity of Colbert is because he thrusts his claims to Catholicism into the spotlight. He make it a point to announce his Catholicism and to confront in one way or another Catholic teachings or issues. That’s why. And the way to evaluate his Catholicism is by what he says. If he supports gay marriage, contraception, and so on, if he waters down the authority of the Church and sends the message, in all his ambiguity, that leads to confusion and lack of clarity about what he truly represents, he is acting in a manner that places people in grave spiritual danger. Calling it “satire” is no excuse if its effects are to undermine the Church. Now, I don’t know him well enough to judge his Catholicism. I don’t know what effect he’s having. However, a having watched about 10 ep. of his show, I feel that it doesn’t actually affirm Catholic teaching. His satire doesn’t ridicule anti-Catholicism (either conservative or liberal). Indeed, he tends to be your average member of the American National Church with its excessive interesting in poverty and social justice, it’s naive, Rousseauian understanding of human nature, and its dismissal of the pope and Church teachings on things far graver to the human spirit than poverty or even death (such as contraception, abortion, gay ideology, and generally the whole synthesis of heresies known as Modernism, a condemnation of which you can find in the papal encyclical Pascendi Dominici Gregis). This is not Catholicism.
I know many like to rationalize any anti-Catholicism because they’re cowards. The experience of many Catholics is that they’re on the defensive. They’ve been taught to feel apologetic for their beliefs, but frankly, those who feel apologetic don’t really belief these beliefs. Think about it: why would you believe something you find worth an apology when belief can be easily changed? There is nothing to apologize for, and the world isnt right, it it’s more sane or certain about what it believes. The world is just a collection of people like you who live their entire lives believing stupid, foolish things, unexamined things, blindly going where he media steer them. The world is just people like anyone else. The craftier find ways to manipulate their brothers into believing stupid things that benefit them, and let me tell you, the lies go deep.

If you think following Church teachings gets you in trouble, then you are NOT Catholic. After all, the Church is what defines Catholicism. If you depart from the definition, then you are not what that definition describes. It’s a bit like saying you’re a gay rights activist when you’re a homophobe in practice. It makes no sense to make either of these claims. YOU don’t get to define what it means to be Catholic. You can define what it means to be a member of the Church of Joe if you’re name is Joe, but not the Roman Catholic Church. It’s not a democratic process and THANK GOD because democracy is the tyranny of the mob. And the mob is a mindless, stupid bunch who are easily swayed and made to believe whatever pleases those in power.

Now, this may be hard for some of you to swallow because you, just as I, were raised in an atmosphere where being Catholic was taught in this and that way, but really try to understand you faith. Most Catholics don’t even know the basics found in their Cathecism and the Cathecism is THE source of Catholic teaching. The last three generations have had poor cathechesis. You may be surprised what is demanded of you, but it’s the only way to be an honest Catholic. If you refuse, have the decency to either understand the teachings, truly, or to walk away. Don’t try to change teachings which cannot be changed. They aren’t social contracts or arbitrary laws, they’re statements about reality and reality is non-negotiable. Don’t confuse others by claiming to be Catholic when you are in fact in a huge state of dissent. Have the decency to take an honest and a hard look at your actual beliefs and the actual teachings of the Church. Don’t believe very priest as the priesthood is filled with heretics these days (Colbert defends some of these, including the radical feminist nuns who are so wrapped up in sentimental and sappy dissent they likely don’t even see how far off the mark they are). All major heresies were the products of the clergy, promulgated by bishops, as it were. Fr. Nice isn’t your friend.

Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time watching Colbert. Like most of television, it’s filler for groundings. It can be funny at times, certainly, but in terms of actual intellectual merit (and there’s a difference between shallow cleverness and intellectual substance), it’s worthless. Sell your TV. At least on the internet, you have the power to select news sources that don’t insult your intelligence, that actually lend themselves to developing possible pictures about the state of affairs of the world. TV almost guarantees mindless conformity to the brainless status quo.

Alas, most people are never true individuals. Most never think for themselves. Most are never humble enough to be individuals.
 
@ Bob: great post. Like how Colbert questions the RCC, his own Catholicism, his own interpretation, should be questioned since he has great influence on those who are either non-religious, lukewarm Christians to easily impressed young adults who may fit one of the two mentioned groups.
Alas, most people are never true individuals. Most never think for themselves. Most are never humble enough to be individuals.
This is was I don’t understand with “today’s” pop culture, or at least within the hipster subculture. What I mean by this is that many say that “I like what I like” when people question their preferences/tastes yet they never truly know why, for what reasons let alone the history of the artist and genre (if music or art). They go on to say “Be yourself” to “think for yourself.” I find this self contradicts the very ethos of such people. Ironic, really.
 
Now, this may be hard for some of you to swallow because you, just as I, were raised in an atmosphere where being Catholic was taught in this and that way, but really try to understand you faith. Most Catholics don’t even know the basics found in their Cathecism and the Cathecism is THE source of Catholic teaching. The last three generations have had poor cathechesis. You may be surprised what is demanded of you, but it’s the only way to be an honest Catholic. If you refuse, have the decency to either understand the teachings, truly, or to walk away. Don’t try to change teachings which cannot be changed. They aren’t social contracts or arbitrary laws, they’re statements about reality and reality is non-negotiable. Don’t confuse others by claiming to be Catholic when you are in fact in a huge state of dissent. Have the decency to take an honest and a hard look at your actual beliefs and the actual teachings of the Church. Don’t believe very priest as the priesthood is filled with heretics these days (Colbert defends some of these, including the radical feminist nuns who are so wrapped up in sentimental and sappy dissent they likely don’t even see how far off the mark they are). All major heresies were the products of the clergy, promulgated by bishops, as it were. Fr. Nice isn’t your friend.

Personally, I wouldn’t waste my time watching Colbert. Like most of television, it’s filler for groundings. It can be funny at times, certainly, but in terms of actual intellectual merit (and there’s a difference between shallow cleverness and intellectual substance), it’s worthless. Sell your TV. At least on the internet, you have the power to select news sources that don’t insult your intelligence, that actually lend themselves to developing possible pictures about the state of affairs of the world. TV almost guarantees mindless conformity to the brainless status quo.

Alas, most people are never true individuals. Most never think for themselves. Most are never humble enough to be individuals.
I think I was Catechized just fine. I at least know better than to stereotype an entire nationality. I was taught to be charitable and not to throw insults at other people like “coward”, while feeling secure in my own self righteousness. I don’t dismiss attempts to alleviate poverty and work against social injustice, something which plagued the country I live in through chattel slavery and later in racial discrimination - in many cases against Catholics. Indeed, homosexuality and abortion are issues, but they were no probably no less prominent in the Judea of the 1st century, and yet Christ said that those who did not feed the hungry and clothe the naked would be the ones unwelcome in his Kingdom.

Sir, looking at your statements though, I tend to agree with your sentiment that not all who claim to be Catholic truly are, and that those who do not agree with its doctrines would do better to leave - in your case, I think the SSPX or another sedevacantist sect would be a better fit.
 
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