Is the battle over same sex marriage over?

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To annn: again, unisex bathrooms.
By that, do you mean single-occupancy bathrooms? I’m all in favor of public spaces having at least one single-occupancy bathroom allowed. At my college, I was the RA of a dorm that had co-ed bathrooms. We had one single-occupancy bathroom, and it solved any and all potential problems.
 
By that, do you mean single-occupancy bathrooms? I’m all in favor of public spaces having at least one single-occupancy bathroom allowed. At my college, I was the RA of a dorm that had co-ed bathrooms. We had one single-occupancy bathroom, and it solved any and all potential problems.
That works in college, but I was brutalized, mocked and beaten pretty much daily when I had to use the ‘other’ bathroom. The school did nothing about, did not care, until finally I was beaten so hard that I woke up in the nurses office 45minutes later. Even then I was suspended for a day, because apparently I managed to punch back at one point, though I have no memory of it.
 
pathia, this is unrelated to the topic of this thread, but have you been trained in any sort of martial art or self-defense?
 
pathia, this is unrelated to the topic of this thread, but have you been trained in any sort of martial art or self-defense?
With osteoporosis? No, I can’t take heavy physical training of any sort. If I was to punch someone, I’d probably shatter my hand.
 
It seems like learning to defend yourself might be prudent; I’m not sure if you’ve tried before and the extent to which osteoporosis restricts your movement. Not all self-defense systems and/or martial arts involve any striking! I suggest at least considering a non-striking (grappling/wrestling) martial art. They can really help lessen the damage done in a fight.
 
It seems like learning to defend yourself might be prudent; I’m not sure if you’ve tried before and the extent to which osteoporosis restricts your movement. Not all self-defense systems and/or martial arts involve any striking! I suggest at least considering a non-striking (grappling/wrestling) martial art. They can really help lessen the damage done in a fight.
I’m pretty much bed-ridden right now after a multi-week fight with meningitis, I’m not going to be throwing anyone around for months, if not ever again.
 
I think the ideal situation would be all single occupancy bathrooms, at least in schools. I mean it’s impossible to enforce that everywhere, but it should be at least for schools.
 
It’s not the government’s job to make laws regarding marriage, sex, or family life, unless there’s harm to another person involved. As for freedom of religion, there are many churches that are accepting of gay marriage, as well as some Jewish synagogues, so a religious argument holds no water.

Honestly, I understand why abortion should be made illegal. It’s a human rights issue; it kills babies. But gay marriage? Seriously? I’d understand if we lived in a Catholic country, but we don’t.
The reason that any and all parts of the gay agenda should be opposed is because the opposite of “gay unfriendly” is “straight unfriendly”. They want you to believe that their philosophy is live and let live but it is not.

As an example, in a case in a community college near San Francisco, an adjunct professor teaching genetics dared quote a textbook, while answering a question, that said same sex attraction was not purely genetic but also had environment factors as well. A student was ‘deeply offended’ by this, so the college board bypassed the collective bargaining agreement and all other due process safeguards and fired the instructor. They are now, of course, being sued.

It is not only about gay marriage. It is about making the minority, deviant position the only acceptable, affirmable lifestyle choice.
 
As an example, in a case in a community college near San Francisco, an adjunct professor teaching genetics dared quote a textbook, while answering a question, that said same sex attraction was not purely genetic but also had environment factors as well. A student was ‘deeply offended’ by this, so the college board bypassed the collective bargaining agreement and all other due process safeguards and fired the instructor. They are now, of course, being sued
It’s substantially more than that, here are the student’s allegations below.

(1) That the professor referenced a study “that only used one mouse in the experimental group and one mouse in the control group. Not only that, the study did not explain how they determined the offspring were gay”,

(2) That Professor Sheldon said there are hardly any gay men in the Middle East because the women are treated very nicely,

(3) That there aren’t any real lesbians. According to her, women simply get tired of relationships with men and pursue them with women,

(4) That she addressed the men in the classroom, saying that if they want a “nice,” and strong son, they should treat their wives very nicely (do things like “open doors for them”). and

(5) that to conclude her lecture, the professor said, if the men wanted a “sensitive” son, the men should abuse their wives.

Source: thefire.org/index.php/article/8975.html?PHPSESSID=c71dcfeb961096fea8a0cdc2cbcf3b43

I suspect what I bolded was what raised the alarm.
 
I’m not denying that some people are like that. But I go to quite a liberal college as well and know a lot of gay people. They don’t care if straight people want to marry and raise a family. They think it’s a good thing. Most of the people I know who support gay marriage think it’s all right if the churches don’t want to practice it, they just don’t think that the government should be able to have that power. I believe that marriage shouldn’t even be a government issue, that anyone should be able to register for a civil partnership and that marriage should be defined by churches.

I don’t see why it has to be so black and white, “gay unfriendly” or “straight unfriendly”. I won’t deny, there are quite a few people out there who think only one way is the right way, liberal or conservative, religious or not. And while I don’t deny that environment can play a factor, it’s not a choice. People don’t choose to be gay, anymore than someone can choose attraction.

I think the real issue is the “offensive” factor, like, “If you don’t see MY way, it’s offensive and you’re discriminatory.” I think that’s what we need to be fighting.

I also don’t think we should be fighting the legal sector. I think we need to re-catechize our Catholics and teach what marriage and sex really mean, not just by word but by example. Also, I think many in our population need to realize that just because someone thinks differently doesn’t mean they’re out to get anyone.
 
It’s substantially more than that, here are the student’s allegations below.

(1) That the professor referenced a study “that only used one mouse in the experimental group and one mouse in the control group. Not only that, the study did not explain how they determined the offspring were gay”,

(2) That Professor Sheldon said there are hardly any gay men in the Middle East because the women are treated very nicely,

(3) That there aren’t any real lesbians. According to her, women simply get tired of relationships with men and pursue them with women,

(4) That she addressed the men in the classroom, saying that if they want a “nice,” and strong son, they should treat their wives very nicely (do things like “open doors for them”). and

(5) that to conclude her lecture, the professor said, if the men wanted a “sensitive” son, the men should abuse their wives.

Source: thefire.org/index.php/article/8975.html?PHPSESSID=c71dcfeb961096fea8a0cdc2cbcf3b43

I suspect what I bolded was what raised the alarm.
Pathia, the link you provided does not support any of the allegations you have made. Neither does the lawsuit Sheldon filed. Please provide the cite for your allegations.
 
Pathia, the link you provided does not support any of the allegations you have made. Neither does the lawsuit Sheldon filed. Please provide the cite for your allegations.
Read the report by the university. There’s a link to the PDF on that page.

More links

scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/academic_freedom_at_san_joseev.php
thefire.org/index.php/article/8975.html
thefire.org/pdfs/623e8dec8f5646886946c22b7c0b15fe.pdf
lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071801.html

Note: I think firing the professor given even this information is overkill, but there seems to be much more than her saying that it isn’t ‘settled science that it is genetic’ or something.
 
Read the report by the university. There’s a link to the PDF on that page.

More links

scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/academic_freedom_at_san_joseev.php
thefire.org/index.php/article/8975.html
thefire.org/pdfs/623e8dec8f5646886946c22b7c0b15fe.pdf
lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jul/08071801.html

Note: I think firing the professor given even this information is overkill, but there seems to be much more than her saying that it isn’t ‘settled science that it is genetic’ or something.
Hmm, the links didn’t show up until I quoted to reply.

Anyway, I think the first link (scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/07/academic_freedom_at_san_joseev.php) pretty much says it all.

If she said all of those stupid things the student alleges, the administrator should have produced witnesses and said so in the letter report. The more bizarre allegations aren’t even addressed.

I hope you don’t think that someone should be fired due to one allegation from one person.
 
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