Is the church more lenient towards heterosexual sex outside of marriage than homosexual relation?

[Ophelia23]

Every sin that human beings have ever wanted to commit has been classified as “outdated” when they want to commit it. That’s no argument for any sin.

If we have lost younger people it’s because of poor catechesis not for calling sins sins. We need to let them know what sins are and how they damage our souls in order to help them understand not pander to their sinful inclinations.

Again, no sin helps us become holy nor teaches us how to love others with the respect due to all human beings. It’s always been a sin and always will be a sin.

Precisely. I have nothing to add, just wanted to applaud your response.

 

[The_Walrus_1]

Homosexual sex acts are a more grave sin than fornication. The language of the catechesis does not leave much room for disagreement here. The teaching of the Catholic Church has always been that sodomy is a sin that “cries to heaven for justice”. Sodomy is not just a sin of impurity that infringes on the 6th commandment, it implies an insult to God by rejecting the natural order. Heterodox theologians try to soften the Church’s stance on this by interpreting God’s judgment on Sodom and Gomorra as a response to the residents’ lack of hospitality to strangers. Of course, this is humdrum - the sexual interpretation of SandG is repeated in Ezekiel and Jude, not to mention Saint Paul who could not be more clear on the sin of homosexual acts.

 

[Nacho45]

First of all, i don’t know where this question fits so if it needs to be moved please do so. Anyway, my question stems from a discussion I had with my non-practicing, formerly Lutheran (as in she was Lutheran, then became Catholic, now isn’t practicing any faith) where we were talking about gays in the church. I mentioned how the church teaching is that Gay actions are wrong, not gay people. Anyway, she mentioned how hard it was and that it wasn’t right. Then she brought up how a lot of people she knows who are fornicators and have sex outside of marriage still receive the sacraments (she works in a Catholic school part time for the local public school district and knows or hears about teachers in both school systems who aren’t very moral) and her logic basically is that since these people can still get the Sacraments, that practicing gay people should get them too.

So does the church see fornication and heterosexual sex outside of marriage as less evil than Homosexual sex? I have a feeling the answer is no, but since all sins are not equal, is it worse to be a practicing homosexual, than to be a fornicator?

Also, how do i get my mother to understand these people who supposedly are not chaste, are not following the rules? She seems to think that the church sees sex outside of marriage between man and a woman as less wrong than homosexuality.

Sorry for the long question, but any help would be appreciated.

Any sex outside marriage is a sin, which is why there is such a push for acceptance of homosexual “marriage” in society. Then people will say, “Well, we’re married, so even the Church should be ok with this.” Unfortunately for them, they fail to understand it doesn’t work that way. The Church, and any honest person making claim of Christianity, knows fornication and adultery are sin (regardless if homo or hetero relations) and the only way around that is when man and woman enter holy matrimony as instituted by God.

 

[Nacho45]

I don’t agree with the Churches interpretation of this issue. I don’t look at women as ‘objects’ nor do I lust after them which is probably why I’m still single at 38. I think the churches teaching on this issue is outdated and one of the reasons why I’m seeing a declining younger presence in the churches around me and why I’m reading about the churches aging population. If you took every ‘old’ person out of my church you’d be left with just a handful of people

Lucky for us, the Church will never change its views because you disagree with them and think them outdated. There is much not specifically mentioned by word in the Bible which we know clearly. Using such a tactic is poor judgment, especially with Catholics (or Orthodox). This sounds very much like when someone says the English word “homosexual” isn’t in the ancient Scriptures. It’s grasping at straws.

 

[Arizona_Mike]

Actually I’d like to take this opportunity to point out that nowhere in the bible does it state that masturbation is a sin.

I don’t doubt that masturbation can lead to sin, just as alcohol can but to cut it out completely seems a step too far for me.

Matthew 5:30 might be such a reference.