Is the church of Christ an off-shoot of the LDS church?

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I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
 
I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
Be careful! As far as I know Church of Christ is often used by fundamentalists (which are not of the LDS Church) also! - They are normally congregationalists or very often Restorationists (Campellites). — Someone please help me out? 😉

But you are right, there are Churches that are LDS offshots (and are more or less LDS) which use this name also, but usually with some kind of appendix.

The abbreviation CoC is normally used for the COMMUNITY of Christ (in former days: Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), which is the second largest LDS Church offshoot (after LDS themselves) and is also found worldwide.

The other “Churches of Christ…” which are of LDS origin are to be found in the US only and usually they are really small.
 
I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
The Church of Christ, Temple Lot is a small LDS sect…they are closer in theology to the RLDS(now Community of Christ) and the “Church of Jesus Christ” with headquarters in Monogahalia (sp) Pennsylvania.

I believe their main sticking point with other LDS groups is that they see Joseph Smith as a “fallen prophet”…once he translated the BoM…he “fell”…the church went in the wrong direction afterwards…
 
Be careful! As far as I know Church of Christ is often used by fundamentalists (which are not of the LDS Church) also! - They are normally congregationalists or very often Restorationists (Campellites). — Someone please help me out? 😉

But you are right, there are Churches that are LDS offshots (and are more or less LDS) which use this name also, but usually with some kind of appendix.

The abbreviation CoC is normally used for the COMMUNITY of Christ (in former days: Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints), which is the second largest LDS Church offshoot (after LDS themselves) and is also found worldwide.

The other “Churches of Christ…” which are of LDS origin are to be found in the US only and usually they are really small.
Thank you! I think the one they attend is more of a fundementalist church- I’ve attended services here and there and most of the time that’s where family funerals are held also… the services are nothing like what I would expect in an off-shoot LDS church (although, I don’t know what those would be like either LOL, so take that with a grain of salt). The church they attend is HUGE… most of the churches of Christ here are pretty big.
 
The Church of Christ, Temple Lot is a small LDS sect…they are closer in theology to the RLDS(now Community of Christ) and the “Church of Jesus Christ” with headquarters in Monogahalia (sp) Pennsylvania.

I believe their main sticking point with other LDS groups is that they see Joseph Smith as a “fallen prophet”…once he translated the BoM…he “fell”…the church went in the wrong direction afterwards…
Thank you. I don’t think this is the type of church my family attends.

Off topic perhaps, but if a prophet really is a prophet, how could he ‘fall’? :confused: That belief perplexes me a bit.
 
Blah Blah Blah Church of Christ are probably not LDS. They’re most likely part of the restoration movement group of churches called the ‘Churches of Christ’ which account for some 1.8 million believers in the U.S. From reading their wiki page, I think they’re closest to baptists as far as their beliefs go. Though they do depart from the baptist understanding of the significance of baptism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ#Beliefs

This website claims to have the list off all the congregations in the US and the world. You can check to see if your family’s church is on the list.

church-of-christ.org/churches/United_States/United_States.htm
 
I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
No, they’re not an offshoot. Both Mormons and “Campbellites” were part of a broader network of “restorationist” movements in 19th-century America. Early on, the two groups did interact quite a bit. But the “Campbellites” never bought into Joseph Smith’s prophetic claims or his radically heretical theology.

The “Reorganized LDS Church” renamed itself the “Community of Christ” a few years ago and has been trying to turn itself into something more like Campbellite Restorationism, or so it would seem.
 
Thank you. I don’t think this is the type of church my family attends.

Off topic perhaps, but if a prophet really is a prophet, how could he ‘fall’? :confused: That belief perplexes me a bit.
He “fell” because of his pride. A prophet is not infallible nor “secure” in his prophethood…they can fall from grace as easily as anyone else…he’s a human subject to all human frailties.
 
He “fell” because of his pride. A prophet is not infallible nor “secure” in his prophethood…they can fall from grace as easily as anyone else…he’s a human subject to all human frailties.
Note that King Saul was a prophet:
…6 Then the spirit of the LORD will come mightily upon you, and you shall prophesy with them and be turned into another man. 7 Now when these signs meet you, do whatever your hand finds to do, for God is with you. 8 And you shall go down before me to Gilgal; and behold, I am coming to you to offer burnt offerings and to sacrifice peace offerings. Seven days you shall wait, until I come to you and show you what you shall do." 9 When he turned his back to leave Samuel, God gave him another heart; and all these signs came to pass that day. 10 When they came to Gibe-ah, * behold, a band of prophets met him; and the spirit of God came mightily upon him, and he prophesied among them. 11* And when all who knew him before saw how he prophesied with the prophets, the people said to one another, “What has come over the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?” 12 And a man of the place answered, “And who is their father?” Therefore it became a proverb, “Is Saul also among the prophets?” 13 When he had finished prophesying, he came to the high place. …
1 Samuel 10:6-13 and he didn’t turn out well.
 
The Church of Christ, Temple Lot is a small LDS sect…they are closer in theology to the RLDS(now Community of Christ) and the “Church of Jesus Christ” with headquarters in Monogahalia (sp) Pennsylvania.

I believe their main sticking point with other LDS groups is that they see Joseph Smith as a “fallen prophet”…once he translated the BoM…he “fell”…the church went in the wrong direction afterwards…
Kinda like a “Great Apostasy”? 😃
 
This website claims to have the list off all the congregations in the US and the world. You can check to see if your family’s church is on the list.
That non-denomination will split on a trivial theological point, claiming that the other side is doomed to hell and destruction. There probably are as many congregations that claim to be part of that non-denomination, that are not on that list, as are on it.

There probably are 30,000 different flavours of church of Christ.

Amber
 
That non-denomination will split on a trivial theological point, claiming that the other side is doomed to hell and destruction. There probably are as many congregations that claim to be part of that non-denomination, that are not on that list, as are on it.

There probably are 30,000 different flavours of church of Christ.

Amber
Yes, the thing with the non-denominational Churches is always, what exactly are they? They call themselves non-denominational, but they must have something like a basis or a teaching (Either it be Baptist, or Luther, or Calvin, or Zwingli or Wesley…) they build their Church upon.
Without knowing it, as there are no non-denominatinal Churches here in Europe, I would assume that most of them are “reborn Christians”.
 
The Church of Christ, Temple Lot is a small LDS sect…they are closer in theology to the RLDS(now Community of Christ) and the “Church of Jesus Christ” with headquarters in Monogahalia (sp) Pennsylvania.

I believe their main sticking point with other LDS groups is that they see Joseph Smith as a “fallen prophet”…once he translated the BoM…he “fell”…the church went in the wrong direction afterwards…
I think it’s a little different. They were loyal to the LDS until Joseph Smith’s death. After his death a succession crisis grew. Joseph’s first wife, Emma, and a small group of followers proposed Joseph Smith’s son, Joseph III to be prophet, and theo the LDS picked Brigham Young. That’s when when thes split occurred, and the Joseph III followers returned to Independence, Missouri. The Doctrine and Covenants I think is still part of the COC books.

The Community of Christ, interestingly enough developed quite differently from the Mormons. They still see God as a Trinity, they reject exaltation in to godhood, and they see the Bible as on the same level as the Book of Mormon.

But gradually the Church changed significantly. They became a lot more liberal-minded (homosexuality is acceptable), and distanced itself from being a Church to being more like a philosophy club with charity that desires world peace. I do not mean to say this as an offense to any Community of Christ members here, this is just my personal observance from reading the Wikipedia article.
 
Church of Christ are not LDS.

They’re most likely part of the restoration movement group of churches called the ‘Churches of Christ’ which account for some 1.8 million believers in the U.S. From reading their wiki page, I think they’re closest to baptists as far as their beliefs go. Though they do depart from the baptist understanding of the significance of baptism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ#Beliefs

This website claims to have the list off all the congregations in the US and the world. You can check to see if your family’s church is on the list.

church-of-christ.org/churches/United_States/United_States.htm
George,

Thanks for recognizing that the use of the name “Church of Christ” is much more likely to be one of these which are attended by many in especially Texas and Florida or also in Africa or India, and are not a break-off from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, at all.
 
I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
Lucy26,

I think you’ll find that your extended family attends one of the Churches of Christ that have origins as noted in the link provided by “George the Wild”. If you explain about where they live, it will be easier to figure that out.

The Churches of Christ in Texas and in Florida are not a break-off group from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, at all.

Wishing you peace in your life.
 
Blah Blah Blah Church of Christ are probably not LDS. They’re most likely part of the restoration movement group of churches called the ‘Churches of Christ’ which account for some 1.8 million believers in the U.S. From reading their wiki page, I think they’re closest to baptists as far as their beliefs go. Though they do depart from the baptist understanding of the significance of baptism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churches_of_Christ#Beliefs

This website claims to have the list off all the congregations in the US and the world. You can check to see if your family’s church is on the list.

church-of-christ.org/churches/United_States/United_States.htm
According to wikipedia the Churches of Christ are so called non-denominational Chuches, among some other.

Question: Could you say that the non-denominatinal Churches are “Baptist”? Meaning that they believe in enthrusting one’s life to Jesus, Credo Baptism, Symbolic Lord’s Supper and believing sola fide, sola gratia, solus Christus, sola scriptura?
 
I heard someone mention that in another thread here, not sure where at the moment. I spent some time googling and am having a hard time finding anything. My extended family attends a church of Christ but I don’t know a whole lot about it. Does anyone have any links or anything they could share about the coC?
There are over 200 known off shoots of Mormonism and some are called “COC”. Also, members of early Mormonism did in fact drift between Restoration Movement that gave us the modern COC and LDS churches.

Divergent paths of the restoration: a history of the Latter Day Saint movement
Steven L. Shields
 
Strange Roads and Forbidden Paths: Avoiding Apostasy in the Latter Days By Richard G. Moore

Differing Visions: Dissenters in Mormon History By Roger D. Launius
 
According to wikipedia the Churches of Christ are so called non-denominational Chuches, among some other.
There are three main branches of the movement. One of them (“Disciples of Christ”) are definitely a denomination. The other two have a very congregationalist polity and reject any kind of denominational structure that could exercise authority over local churches. the more conservative group does not use instruments, which is how you can tell them apart. The middle group, which split away from the Disciples some decades ago, are the ones who are most likely to advertise themselves as “non-denominational,” because one of the reasons they split with the Disciples was that the latter were developing denominational bureaucracy. A church belonging to this middle group may be called either a “Christian church” or a “Church of Christ.” One way to refer to the three groups is as the CCDC’s, the “Four C’s,” and the “Two C’s” respectively. I went to a “Four C” college, which is how I came to know something about this.

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: Could you say that the non-denominatinal Churches are “Baptist”? Meaning that they believe in enthrusting one’s life to Jesus, Credo Baptism, Symbolic Lord’s Supper and believing sola fide, sola gratia, solus Christus, sola scriptura?**

If you’re talking about the Restorationists, they don’t believe in sola fide/sola gratia in the way that most (Calvinistic) Baptists do (They have a lot in common with many European Baptists who are not Calvinists). Baptists typically accuse them of teaching “works righteousness,” and in fact in my opinion they are more legitimately subject to that accusation than Catholics. They also believe that baptism (by immersion, upon profession of faith) is ordinarily necessary for salvation, which is a view completely rejected by Baptists. Apart from their complete rejection of Calvinism, they differ from most American Baptists by their more rationalistic approach to the Faith. They tend to be suspicious of emotional experience and overly complex or philosophical theology.

Other non-denominational churches may be more typically Baptist, though not all–many are Pentecostal, and indeed you find a whole range of non-denoms.

Edwin
 
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