Is the church substantially present in the bread and wine?

[Hjan]

Consider this syllogism:

1. Christ’s body, blood, soul and divinity is substantially present in the bread and wine
2. The church is Christ’s body
3. Therefore, the church is substantially present in the bread and wine

Does the Catholic Church agree with this conclusion?

I know the Catechism uses language showing that the church is offered with the bread and wine, but I’m not sure if it teaches the church is offered in and through the bread and wine.

Consider CCC 1372 which uses this type of language: "St. Augustine admirably summed up this doctrine that moves us to an ever more complete participation in our Redeemer’s sacrifice which we celebrate in the Eucharist:

This wholly redeemed city, the assembly and society of the saints, is offered to God as a universal sacrifice by the high priest who in the form of a slave went so far as to offer himself for us in his Passion, to make us the Body of so great a head. . . . Such is the sacrifice of Christians: “we who are many are one Body in Christ” The Church continues to reproduce this sacrifice in the sacrament of the altar so well-known to believers wherein it is evident to them that in what she offers she herself is offered.196"

Consider also CCC 1369 “The whole Church is united with the offering and intercession of Christ.”

Thanks!
Pax Christi

 

[Maximilian75]

The church is Christ’s body

Not in a physical, substantial sense in the same manner as the Eucharist.
The Church is the Body of Christ because she does His work on the earth, and represents Him.
The Eucharist, alternatively, IS Jesus.

(I am a lay person and this is my best shot at an answer. If I’m wrong, someone correct me)

 

[Gorgias]

(I am a lay person and this is my best shot at an answer. If I’m wrong, someone correct me)

No, you’ve got it right.

When we say “the Church is the Body of Christ”, we don’t mean it in the same literal way in which the folks in 1st century Palestine saw the body of Christ, or even in the same literal way that we say “the Eucharist is the Body of Christ.”

So, @Hjan, your syllogism fails. The Church is not “substantially present” in the Eucharist.