Is the Dark Night Purgatory on Earth?

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Saint John of the Cross, “the Doctor of the Dark Nights”, explicitly compares the sufferings of the soul in the Passive Night of the Spirit to those of souls in Purgatory: cf. The Dark Night of the Soul, Book II, Chapters 7:7, 10:5, 12:1; cf. also The Living Flame of Love, Stanza 1:21, 24; Stanza 2:25.

He explains also that those in a state of passive (i.e., infused, supernatural) purgation, whether in the wayfaring state or in Purgatory, are deprived of the* experience * or sense of hope, albeit they retain the theological virtue thereof latently through the habit of sanctifying grace (Dark Night II:7:7).

Timothy of Mary, OCDS
 
Excellent, Timothy of Mary,

It is good to reprint your reference here for those who do not have access to the book:
This is the reason why those who lie in purgatory suffer great misgivings as to whether they will ever go forth from it and whether their pains will ever be over. For, although they have the habit of the three theological virtues–faith, hope and charity–the present realization which they have of their afflictions and of their deprivation of God allows them not to enjoy the present blessing and consolation of these virtues.

For, although they are able to realize that they have a great love for God, this is no consolation to them, since they cannot think that God loves them or that they are worthy that He should do so; rather, as they see that they are deprived of Him, and left in their own miseries, they think that there is that in themselves which provides a very good reason why they should with perfect justice be abhorred and cast out by God for ever. And thus although the soul in this purgation is conscious that it has a great love for God and would give a thousand lives for Him (which is the truth, for in these trials such souls love their God very earnestly), yet this is no relief to it, but rather brings it greater affliction.

For it loves Him so much that it cares about naught beside; when, therefore, it sees itself to be so wretched that it cannot believe that God loves it, nor that there is or will ever be reason why He should do so, but rather that there is reason why it should be abhorred, not only by Him, but by all creatures for ever, it is grieved to see in itself reasons for deserving to be cast out by Him for Whom it has such great love and desire.
For those following along, please consider that Timothy has been speaking about the experience of the second dark night in Book II, which is purification of the spirit. Very few experience this depth of purification. So these words should be considered in that context.

This would be a good time to emphacize the third paragraph, “For it loves Him so much that it cares for nothing beside.” Some who lightly toss about the phrase “dark night” as rationale for certain sufferings, do not realize the underlying test of St. John: intensity of love for God that excludes everything else.

And I also thank you for mentioniong that the passive purgation from God’s action is “infused and supernatural.” But I do not believe many who read these words will grasp their meaning. Maybe that is why the word “dark night” is so widely misunderstood, unless they are meaning the first night of sense, common to many.

Carole
 
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tjmiller:
Excellent question!
As a Discalced Carmelite, however, I am often uncertain as to what people intend when they use the term “Dark Night of the Soul”. It’s a term which seems to have taken on a life of its own, even in popular culture and psychology - and meanings which are far removed from those originnaly intended by St. John of the Cross.

So to answer the OP Question:
#1. It depends upon what one means by the term.
In other words, has one studied the Mystical Doctor’s eponymous opus? He distinguishes four distinct nights of the soul: the active night of sense, the passive night of sense, the active night of spirit, the passive night of spirit.
#2. Yes, the passive night of the spirit is a form of Purgatory upon earth. (Yet, in a sense, whatever unpleasantness we may undergo as members of the Mystical Body of Christ constitutes a portion of that purgation.)
Thank y’all for the excellent replies.

Just a clarification, I asked about the Dark Night according to St. John, not in the popular sense it. And, out of ignorance, not that I could tell one from another.

Let me focus the question in a specific example: the Dark Night that St. Therese went through at the end of her days on Earth. How would you, dear Discalced Carmelites, consider her trials and whether it was her purgatory, even someone like her who never gravely sinned?

:blessyou:
 
In my ongoing formtion in the Discalced Carmelite Secular Order (OCDS), I recently read Therese, the Little Child of God’s Mercy, by Angel de las Gavarres (ICS Publications, 1999). Subtitled, “Her Spiritual Itinerary in the Light of Her Autobiographical Manuscripts”, it presents the story of her soul from the POV of the sanjuanist purgations, and gives the best treatment I have yet encountered of the questions Augustine raises. (Other good sources include Fr. Marie-Eugene’s I Am a Daughter of the Church: A Practical Synthesis of Carmelite Spirituality [Christian Classics, 1955], and Rev. Guy Gaucher’s The Passion of St. Therese of Lisieux and Therese Martin: The History of a Life.

Simply put, yes: the stage of the Dark Night which St. Therese called her “trial of faith” did in fact constitute (at least a very substantial portion of) her Purgatory, while in the wayfaring state. This spiritual trial lasted for the last 18 months of her life; however, she seems to have experienced varying degrees of the Passive Night of Spirit from her very entrance into Carmel, nearly eight years earlier. (It should also be observed that she had undergone stages of the Active and Passive Nights of the Senses from the ages of 4 to 13!) It is known that she was immediately received into beatitude by the Lord upon her death.

Gavarres successfully goes to great lengths to show how Therese experienced the spiritual stages explained by St. John of the Cross, including the passive purifications. One does not at all get a fair impression of her sufferings (spiritual or physical) from her famous Story of a Soul, but they are often well expressed in her Last Conversations (ICS, tr. John Clarke, 1977).

The intensity of her darkness indicates that it was given by the Lord, not merely as purification for her faults and venial sins, but as a means of conforming her to the Crucified Christ. One is left with an understanding of this Saint far removed from the common “flowery-sweet bourgeois-girlie” caricature of popular holy cards! I now think of her as rather more like her crispy martial heroine, St. Joan of Arc…
 
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BarbaraTherese:
Hi Carole…I totally agree…also I thought your previous Post (#15)spot on. In my comment to John, “spot on” I was referring that in Purgatory there is hope and in Hell there is none…doubtless The Dark Night can come across to a person as surely a type of Hell on earth where hope seems to be completely absent or inaccessible as you said.

I may stand corrected, but I am of the impression that the Holy Souls in Purgatory do understand that they are destined eventually for Heaven but must first endure final purgation in Purgatory. They understand that their purgation is limited in time but unknown time. I had always thought Purgatory per se is marked by the presence of Hope, distinguishing it from Hell where there is no Hope or hopes whatsoever and for eternity and that the soul understands this which is grevious suffering to the soul.

Regards Carole…Barb:)

Hi to you both,
I was referring to purgatory and not the dark night in my comment. Hope is one of the theological virtues infused into the soul along with grace when baptised.

Dark night- read the book of Job to get an insight into it. He remained faithful to our Lord - even though he felt completely abandoned and rejected by God. He must have had some hope to do that. Doubtless this night is terrible - they must have a flicker of hope to persevere.
Those great carmelite mystics quote Job as an example when they discuss the dark night. From memory.
 
Quoting Joysong…
What I found interesting about the sixth mansion is that the troubles she speaks of, for the most part, are external and may co-exist along with the passive purifications from God that are purely spiritual. For those which are from God, I believe St. John’s analogy of the fire assailing a log to be a good one. In the beginning, the heat is felt, but the log is overcome with driving out the moisture so that it may become fully enkindled and one with the flame in the end.
Hi there Carole…On a read of the sixth mansion of The Interior Castle, I agree that St. Teresa in the main speaks of exterior problems…but she does underscore and a few times that the trials and tribulations of this mansion are too many to mention and then too “But oh, when we come to interior sufferings! If these could be described they would make all physical sufferings seem very slight, but it is impossible to describe interior sufferings and how they happen.”(which I have taken from the sixth mansion, Interior Castle ).
The Song of Songs has a lovely verse that says, “I am dark — but lovely, O daughters of Jerusalem. Do not stare at me because I am swarthy, because the sun has burned me.” It may not be the meaning intended by the author of scripture, but that is how it speaks to me, and I have savored its deeper meaning.
Yes, your quote from the Song of Songs speaks…and insighted on more than a face value level.
Boy, we sure have a lot to talk about on this topic, but I’m afraid we may sidetrack from Augustine’s OP. Maybe what St. Teresa advised above is what the souls in purgatory practice – works of charity
(praying for us?) and hope in God’s mercy.

There are many indeed opportunities in a day to practice the works of mercy - and to hope in God’s Mercy.

Thank you for the response, Carole…Barb:)
 
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tjmiller:
In my ongoing formtion in the Discalced Carmelite Secular Order (OCDS), I recently read Therese, the Little Child of God’s Mercy, by Angel de las Gavarres (ICS Publications, 1999). Subtitled, “Her Spiritual Itinerary in the Light of Her Autobiographical Manuscripts”, it presents the story of her soul from the POV of the sanjuanist purgations, and gives the best treatment I have yet encountered of the questions Augustine raises. (Other good sources include Fr. Marie-Eugene’s I Am a Daughter of the Church: A Practical Synthesis of Carmelite Spirituality [Christian Classics, 1955], and Rev. Guy Gaucher’s The Passion of St. Therese of Lisieux and Therese Martin: The History of a Life.

Simply put, yes: the stage of the Dark Night which St. Therese called her “trial of faith” did in fact constitute (at least a very substantial portion of) her Purgatory, while in the wayfaring state. This spiritual trial lasted for the last 18 months of her life; however, she seems to have experienced varying degrees of the Passive Night of Spirit from her very entrance into Carmel, nearly eight years earlier. (It should also be observed that she had undergone stages of the Active and Passive Nights of the Senses from the ages of 4 to 13!) It is known that she was immediately received into beatitude by the Lord upon her death.

Gavarres successfully goes to great lengths to show how Therese experienced the spiritual stages explained by St. John of the Cross, including the passive purifications. One does not at all get a fair impression of her sufferings (spiritual or physical) from her famous Story of a Soul, but they are often well expressed in her Last Conversations (ICS, tr. John Clarke, 1977).

The intensity of her darkness indicates that it was given by the Lord, not merely as purification for her faults and venial sins, but as a means of conforming her to the Crucified Christ. One is left with an understanding of this Saint far removed from the common “flowery-sweet bourgeois-girlie” caricature of popular holy cards! I now think of her as rather more like her crispy martial heroine, St. Joan of Arc…
Hi Timothy -

Good to meet you and what a very interesting post. Thank you! 🙂

Another book that addresses Augustine’s question is “John and Therese: Flames of Love” subtitled The Influence of St. John of the Cross in the life and writing of St. Therese of Liseaux by Guy Gaucher.

If you’ve read this book, I’d love your thoughts on it as it relates to the one you mention above. I’m not familiar with the one you describe . . . but it sure looks good 🙂

Your brother in Carmel,
Dave.
 
Hi Barb,

Yes, I think we are both on the same page regarding the 6th mansion of St. Teresa.
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Carole:
What I found interesting about the sixth mansion is that the troubles she speaks of, for the most part, are external and may co-exist along with the passive purifications from God that are purely spiritual.
Barb:
But oh, when we come to interior sufferings! If these could be described they would make all physical sufferings seem very slight, but it is impossible to describe interior sufferings and how they happen.
I think we both agree that St. Teresa had experienced the passive purifications of the second night of the spirit in this 6th mansion. Do you remember her saying that when these interior sufferings came upon her, she began to be afraid, for she felt they were so strong as to threaten her very life? Oh my, what must this be, and how few of us can understand this. The little I have known of interior sufferings must pale in comparison with hers!

May God send His peace and joy,
Carole
 
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Joysong:
Hi Barb,

Yes, I think we are both on the same page regarding the 6th mansion of St. Teresa.

I think we both agree that St. Teresa had experienced the passive purifications of the second night of the spirit in this 6th mansion. Do you remember her saying that when these interior sufferings came upon her, she began to be afraid, for she felt they were so strong as to threaten her very life? Oh my, what must this be, and how few of us can understand this. The little I have known of interior sufferings must pale in comparison with hers!

May God send His peace and joy,
Carole
Hi there Carole…Undoubtedly the Sixth Mansion and a portion of a mystic’s life may well consist of both exterior and interior sufferings. The exterior are possibly not so difficult to write about, while the interior passive sufferings are more obscure and difficult to describe.
St. John’s work “The Dark Night” is an extremely long and complex work of spiritual theology and the very length and complexity of the work suggests the complexity in describing the Night itself.
St Teresa does not go into the theological complexity that St. John does and is more subjective. I certainly have no comprehension at all of a spiritual suffering that could seem to threaten life itself and an attesting to the terrible sufferings of The Passive Dark Night of The Soul…undoubtedly the length and degree of the passive purification does vary and yet the criteria would indicate to a director the onset and passage of The Dark Night of The Soul. It also needs to be stated that God in introducing a soul into The Dark Night sends all The Grace needed to endure it…nor would He send more than the soul can bear. It also needs to be stated that the soul is not incapable of serious sin. St. Teresa does mention that if the soul knew what lay ahead of it in The Dark Night, it would not have the courage to go on.

I think Carole that you and I are on the same wavelength at times… probably reflective of the fact that we seem to be interested in the same classical spiritual writings:)

Send regards…Barb:)
 
For those which are from God, I believe St. John’s analogy of the fire assailing a log to be a good one. In the beginning, the heat is felt, but the log is overcome with driving out the moisture so that it may become fully enkindled and one with the flame in the end.
Hello again Carole…I knew that I had missed something in my Post and that it was to do with St. John’s example of the fire assailing the log. I hear what you say above and also, when the log first takes fire, it is able to know in the moist part that the dry part of it is on fire…but the fire is driving out all moisture…and as the fire progresses drying out the log completely, the log becomes all fire and knows nothing but the fire as it is consumed completely and one with the fire.
In pondering the examples the mystics use in describing the mystic experience one can look at the example from a few angles very often and clarifying matters somewhat.

Regards - Barb:)
 
Following Barb’s thought in the last post about the fire and the log, I believe the best chapter to understand what the soul experiences in the Dark Night of the Spirit is in Book II, scroll down to Chapter 11.

For this present kind is an enkindling of spiritual love in the soul, which, in the midst of these dark confines, feels itself to be keenly and sharply wounded in strong Divine love, and to have a certain realization and foretaste of God, although it understands nothing definitely, for, as we say, the understanding is in darkness.

This love finds in the soul more occasion and preparation to unite itself with it and to wound it, according as all the soul’s desires are the more recollected, and are the more withdrawn from and disabled for the enjoyment of aught either in Heaven or in earth.
  1. When all the desires and energies of the soul, then, have been recollected in this enkindling of love, and when the soul itself has been touched and wounded in them all, and has been inspired with passion, what shall we understand the movements and digressions of all these energies and desires to be, if they find themselves enkindled and wounded with strong love and without the possession and satisfaction thereof, in darkness and doubt? They will doubtless be suffering hunger, like the dogs of which David speaks as running about the city; finding no satisfaction in this love, they keep howling and groaning.
For the touch of this love and Divine fire dries up the spirit and enkindles its desires, in order to satisfy its thirst for this Divine love, so much so that it turns upon itself a thousand times and desires God in a thousand ways and manners, with the eagerness and desire of the appetite.
  1. But in the midst of these dark and loving afflictions the soul feels within itself a certain companionship and strength, which bears it company and so greatly strengthens it that, if this burden of grievous darkness be taken away, it often feels itself to be alone, empty and weak. The cause of this is that, as the strength and efficacy of the soul were derived and communicated passively from the dark fire of love which assailed it, it follows that, when that fire ceases to assail it, the darkness and power and heat of love cease in the soul.
This correlates well with St. Teresa’s writings, where she called the wound of love a distress, that gave her so much satisfaction and sweetness that she would gladly suffer it. St. John worded in section 7 above that there is a felt presence of God that causes the spirit to travail with groaning and wounding, and when the heat of love’s wound has ceased, the soul feels alone and empty, until God grants the touch anew.

This form of passive, infused contemplation is experienced oppositely from the passive infused contemplation that one receives with inebriation and deep joy. In both forms, the soul is recollected in God, and He bestows that inward touch without the soul being able to produce it at will, nor to remove it until God desires to end it. These touches are not continuous, as understood by hours upon end, but come upon one like a spark, as St. Teresa writes, and last as long as God ordains.

What St. John insists upon for one of the three important criteria that needs to be present before entering this second night, is described above as, [the soul is] “disabled for the enjoyment of aught either in Heaven or in earth.” He makes an important distinction that this is not due to melancholy or mental state of depression, but truly born of purification and deep love of God.

Therefore, it is my belief that souls in purgatory, have come to know this deep love of God, but are enduring the travail of love’s wounds, hungering and longing for God with true spiritual fire, unable to know when its trial will end.

Carole
 
Continuing the previous post, I thought it might be good to share St. Theresa’s words on this, so we can see how well the two saints complement each other.

From the 6th mansion, Chapter II, Interior Castle:

For often when a person is quite unprepared for such a thing, and is not even thinking of God, he is awakened by His Majesty, as though by a rushing comet or a thunderclap. Although no sound is heard, the soul is very well aware that it has been called by God, so much so that sometimes, especially at first, it begins to tremble and complain, though it feels nothing that causes it affliction. * *

It is conscious of having been most delectably wounded, but cannot say how or by whom, but it is certain that this is a precious experience and it would be glad if it were never to be healed of that wound. It complains to its Spouse with words of love, and even cries aloud, being unable to help itself, for it realizes that He is present, but will not manifest Himself in such a way as to allow it to enjoy Him, and this is a great grief, though a sweet and delectable one; even if it should desire not to suffer it, it would have no choice — but in any case it never would so desire. It is much more satisfying to a soul than is the delectable absorption, devoid of distress, which occurs in the Prayer of Quiet. … For the fancies created by melancholy exist only in the imagination, whereas this proceeds from the interior of the soul.

We can also find a correlating description in Chapter XX of her Life, where she says:

It seems as though it were on the threshold of death, save that this suffering brings with it such great happiness that I know of nothing with which it may be compared. It is a martyrdom, severe but also delectable, for the soul will accept nothing earthly that may be offered it, even though it were the thing which it had been accustomed to enjoy most. It realizes clearly that it wants nothing save its God … the facultlies are inactive; they are suspended by their distress, just as in union and rapture they are suspended by joy.

O Jesus, I wish I could give Your Reverence a clear explanation of this, if only so that you might tell me what it is, for this is the state in which my soul now continually finds itself. [The Dark Night of the Spirit, IMO] As a rule, when not occupied, it is plunged into these deathlike yearnings, and when I am conscious that they are beginning, I become afraid, because they do not mean death. … I really think that, if things are to go on like this it must be the Lord’s will to end them by putting an end to my life; for the distress I am in is severe enough to kill me. … All my yearning at such time is to die.

I pray the reader will understand clearly why those who casually label ordinary trials and sufferings, calling them the Dark Night of the Spirit, as in Book II, are mistaken in their understanding of both our two saints. It can be an especially wrong direction they might take spiritually, if that is their concept.

Carole
 
Two posts ago, I gave a link to St. John of the Cross’s Dark Night, Book 2, Chapter 11, but the wording is not nearly as descriptive in that site’s translation as it is in the official Carmelite website. I was very happy to discover it, and it may be well to bookmark it.

If anyone is following along, this link presents a closer translation of Kieran Kavanaugh’s works, and you will obtain a better understanding of our topic. (Not that it is easy to grasp 😛 ) It is also much easier on the eyes to read.

carmelite.com/saints/john/works/dn_26.htm

Carole
 
Is there purgatory on earth? Well from St. John of the Cross it certainly sounds like it. I just finished the 7th chapter of the second book and he compares the two.

Here is purgatory on earth:
I will refer to what Jeremiah felt in it. Because his tribulations were so terrible, he speaks of them and weeps over them profusely: I am the man who sees my poverty in the rod of his indignation. He has led me and brought me into darkness and not into light. He has turned and turned again his hand against me all the day. He has made my skin and my flesh old; he has broken my bones. He has built a fence round about me; and he has surrounded me with gall and labor. He has set me in darkness, as those who are dead forever. He has made a fence around me and against me that I might not go out; he has made my fetters heavy. And also when I might have cried out and entreated, he has shut out my prayer. He has closed up my exits and ways with square stones; he has destroyed my paths. He is become to me like a bear lying in wait, as a lion in hiding. He has turned aside my paths, and broken me in pieces; he has made me desolate. He has bent his bow and set me as a mark for his arrow. He has shot into my reins the daughters of his quiver. I have become a derision to all the people, and laughter and scorn for them all the day. He has filled me with bitterness, he has inebriated me with absinthe. One by one he has broken my teeth; he has fed me with ashes. My soul is far removed from peace. I have forgotten good things. And I said: My end, my aim and my hope from the Lord is frustrated and finished. Remember my poverty and my distress, the absinthe and the gall. I shall be mindful and remember, and my soul will languish within me in afflictions [Lam. 3:1-20].
Here is purgatory itself:
This is the reason that souls in purgatory suffer great doubts about whether they will ever leave and whether their afflictions will end. Although they habitually possess the three theological virtues (faith, hope, and charity), the actual feeling of both the privation of God and the afflictions does not permit them to enjoy the actual blessing and comfort of these virtues. Although they are aware that they love God, this gives them no consolation, because they think that God does not love them and they are unworthy of his love. Because they see themselves deprived of him and established in their own miseries, they feel that they truly bear within themselves every reason for being rejected and abhorred by God. Thus, although persons suffering this purgation know that they love God and that they would give a thousand lives for him (they would indeed, for souls undergoing these trials love God very earnestly), they find no relief. This knowledge instead causes them deeper affliction. For in loving God so intensely that nothing else gives them concern, and aware of their own misery, they are unable to believe that God loves them. They believe that they neither have nor ever will have within themselves anything deserving of God’s love, but rather every reason for being abhorred not only by God but by every creature forever. They grieve to see within themselves reasons for meriting rejection by him whom they so love and long for.
link:carmelite.com/saints/john/works/dn_22.htm
 
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Joysong thank you for your reply, I hope to read a little more of this “dark night” to determine if some of my own experiences are related. I had a very terrifying and wonderful Easter eve this past year. Kinda like a slide show of the senses. Thank you, Tim
In my experience, working with people pursuing an intense prayer life, the “dark night” is highly oversold. Those baroque Spanish mystics engage the imagination, and people try to attach these descriptions to their own lives, as if these were some how prescriptive of union with God rather than descriptive.

While many contemplatives and mystics go through similar experiences, it is much more salutary to walk according to the path along which the Lord is leading us individully (which may involve something as mundane as rotating the tires and cooking dinner) than to try to figure out which room of the castle we are in or which rung of the ladder are on . . .

If you’re engaging language like “dark night of the soul” you need to be under the direct personal supervision of a spiritual director who has sound experience with this sort of thing.
 
Augustine,
Why would we want to experience this? I asked the same question myself. St. John answers it in Chapter 6:
It gains more in one hour here on earth by this purgation than it would in many there.
link:carmelite.com/saints/john/works/dn_21.htm

Because we do it freely here on earth it counts more. In purgatory, we have no choice. Here we can choose to pay our debt by suffering for Him. It is gift of love. Rather than in purgatory where we have no choice.
 
Hi, Jenlyn.
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Jenlyn:
Because we do it freely here on earth it counts more. In purgatory, we have no choice. Here we can choose to pay our debt by suffering for Him. It is gift of love. Rather than in purgatory where we have no choice.
I wouldn’t say that it’s a choice, rather a gift. No, it’s a grace, as St. Therese would say, like everything is.

And, from your quote, by all means, a great favor by the Merciful towards a poor soul.

Then again, I’m less than a novice in Carmelite spirituality. :whistle: Have I said how much I love you guys for so generously sharing your spiritual insights with us here? :getholy:

Thank y’all.

:blessyou:
 
John Russell Jr:
Hi to you both,
I was referring to purgatory and not the dark night in my comment. Hope is one of the theological virtues infused into the soul along with grace when baptised.

Dark night- read the book of Job to get an insight into it. He remained faithful to our Lord - even though he felt completely abandoned and rejected by God. He must have had some hope to do that. Doubtless this night is terrible - they must have a flicker of hope to persevere.
Those great carmelite mystics quote Job as an example when they discuss the dark night. From memory.
Good point I thought John…not only is the Book of Job a great example and witness in The Dark Night but in any sort of suffering small or great. I think those in life who endure great suffering and persevere reveal great Faith and fortitude…our Faith is strengthened in trial. From Faith flow many virtues, also stregthened with that of Faith. I think too that such a person continues to live in Hope in God, though at times it may seem a hopeless cause as it were.😃
I was referring to purgatory and not the dark night in my comment. Hope is one of the theological virtues infused into the soul along with grace when baptised.
Not too sure of what comment you refer to John…altho if I got something upside down, twould not at all be unusual:whacky:

Peace to you…Barb:)
 
This would be a good time to emphacize the third paragraph, “For it loves Him so much that it cares for nothing beside.” Some who lightly toss about the phrase “dark night” as rationale for certain sufferings, do not realize the underlying test of St. John: intensity of love for God that excludes everything else.
…well said!..the intensity of love for God and in the face of terrible trials perhaps not only interior but exterior as well and during which all the normally experienced supports for Faith fail the person completely and consolation is absent leaving them floudering with nevertheless a pressing and ardent love for God that is quite painful rather than consoling… is a criteria of The Dark Night…and this state can last over an extended period and is intense suffering. The Lord may send passing and usually rather brief consolations to encourage the soul.
“Dark Night” has now passed into our common language as a term for any sort of period of intense suffering. It is a poetic term nowadays often rather than an indication, or claim to, of a strict theological mystical process. I have no problem with this if a person feels comfortable with describing personal sufferings as the Dark Night or a Dark Night, and if so would avoid pointing out theological distinctions under certain circumstances.

Peace…Barb:)
 
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