Is the Eastern Bible the same as the Western [Catholic]?

  • Thread starter Thread starter Sunflower15
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Compare the psalm numbers in the Ruthenian books with the NAB, and you find most of the later psalms are numbered 1 higher in the Ruthenian. They do, however, match the orhtodox numbering and my Russian bible.
The Psalms are off by one, but that is off set by the end of the psalter. Psalm “151” is an unnumbered psalm. Its in my copy of the LXX but is not in my copy of the Douay-Rheims.
 
Hebrew (Masoretic) Psalm numbering versus Greek (Septuagint) Psalm numbering:

Psalms 1 to 8: the numbers are the same.
Psalms 9-10: become Psalm 9 in Greek.
Psalms 11 to 113: the number in Greek is the Hebrew number minus one.
Psalms 114-115: become 113 in Greek.
Psalm 116: splits into 114-115 in Greek.
Psalms 117 to 146: the number in Greek is the Hebrew number minus one.
Psalm 147: splits into 146-147 in Greek.
Pslams 148 to 150: the numbers are the same.

Modern Catholic Bibles: NAB, JB, RSV use the Hebrew numbering, although the RSV includes the Greek numbering. The Douay-Rheims, Confraternity, and Orthodox Study Bible use the Greek numbering.
 
As far as I know the Episcopal church-Anglican communion has not used the KJV for years. They went through thier own liturgical movement that gave us Novus Ordo. All the KJ thees and thous are gone, replaced by you and your.

The Episcopal church has the same Bible as the Catholic church, all of the books are there and used in their liturgy, the only difference is that the deutero canonical books are placed in their own section, and are thought of as less inspired.
 
On “Psalm 151”: the actual psalms are the same; one of them is split in to two separate numbers under eastern use, and not under western use.
I think the different numbering of the Psalms is important. Psalm 50 is a Psalm of forgiveness and corresponds to the year of Jubilee. But in the western numbering of the songs this is Psalm 51.
 
I think the different numbering of the Psalms is important. Psalm 50 is a Psalm of forgiveness and corresponds to the year of Jubilee. But in the western numbering of the songs this is Psalm 51.
It’s also the Hebrew numbering, which is not very Western.

This could also be (and I may be wrong) the Peshitto (Aramaic/Syriac version) numbering.

For reasons known best to herself, Isabel F. Hapgood used the Hebrew/Protestant numbering of Psalms in her famous Service Book.
 
The Armenian Orthodox Bible has 48 old testament and 27 new Testament
 
Are there any books that are peculiar to the Armenian Orthodox Church, peter?
 
Regarding the “un-numbered psalm” that is found in the Psalter of the Orthodox Church we have news. For centuries since the first Psalter was introduced from the Septuagint Greek Bible (2nd century B.C.), there was a “151st psalm” within it which was not present in the Hebrew Masoretic Scriptures, which only date back to the 6th century A.D. Scholars all those years stated that this was a spurious item. To everyone’s surprise among the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered in the Qumran caves, there was a very ancient Hebrew scroll of the Psalms. And what do you suppose was found within it? Of course, the 151st Psalm with the same wording that was present in the Greek Septuagint. So much for what the scholars have to say. Always look at it with a grain of salt.
 
Oh, so, they have more than us! I wonder how that happened since we were the same Church back then?🤷

Also, not too long ago, I saw a newer Catholic Bible with 10 [not 7] Apocryphal books…Susanna, Bel and the Dragon and …can’t remember the other one…
Different versions of the Septuagint, had more or less books. Eastern Catholics would more than likely add the few extra books, like the Orthodox.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top