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I gave you the link to the book and you can find the quote in chapter VI section 1, which is on page 203 in the 1988 edition of the book.
Have you read the whole book?
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Respectfully toward, One does not reject the Spoken Word of God, he is my witness also. Why I heavily am posting and quoting >> His Spoken Word from within His Holy Scriptures!
But one does question and examine the teaching,>>> Titles >>that were only given to Jesus, Our Heavenly Father are now>> being given to our Blessed Mother Mary?
Titles that Glorify the Eternal Infinite Power, of Our Heavenly Father.
What God is not Sovereign anymore?
What was never taught or >>found within >>His Spoken Word>> in the NT>>> by John Baptist, was never taught was it?
Neither taught or preached by Jesus even?
St Peter, did not preach such?
St Matthew, did not preach such?
Or the rest of the Apostles, did not preach such?
Or James Epistles, did not preach such, why?
Or such Titles given in St Luke 1, only repeating the words of Blessed Mary, stating >>>>> she will be known and called > Blessed among all Woman, no other titles or teaching were given, by St Luke why?
Not preached about in Acts why?
Nor found in the last Gospel of St John, he does not preach or teach on Blessed Mary either, does he, why?
St Paul is completely silent on, gives no such teaching about our Blessed Mary why?Nor is there >such teaching on Blessed Mary, found in all the teaching of St Paul > in all His Epistles sent to the many churches, is there?
Zechariah and Blessed Mary both received the angel of the Lord, Gabriel, whom our Heavenly Father sent, lets not forget Elizabeth great Blessings and Grace also, is huge to have a child in old age .
Also Angel Gabriel sent by the Lord, gives a long >prophecy all about John Baptist>> to his father Zechariah, never taught either, why?
So I do not reject His Spoken Word,>>heaven forbid>>>> but question and examine others, such teachings. For what they are teaching, is not found, within >>His Spoken Word>>or was ever taught by >>All who served the Lord in the NT, was it?
Jesus instructions to his listening audience >test all Spirits, bring 2 or more witnesses, His Spoken Word bares witness for us ,does it not?
Pondering on Jesus,>when he rebuke those in Matthew 23, forces them all to go back to the >Spoken Word of God, did he not, within the OT in what was written?Add not to add or subtract from?
Jesus makes it know to those serving him within his Fathers House, they are responsible and will be held accountable >to uphold the Spoken Word of God, did he not?
Jesus came to restore, correct and give the full teaching of the Laws, right?
Jeremiah 8:8?
Jesus did he not do the same thing>>when satan tempted the very author of Holy Scripture Jesus himself? Satan took Bible verses, by mixing them with truth with lies against the very author of Scripture, did he not?
Jesus choose the correct bible verse to rebuke satan back:>Man does not live by bread allow, but by the very Word of God.
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No,God Choose Mary Did Humans give titles no,did Mary seek title no, was the title of God give to Mary no why add to the Word of God which forbidden or listen to other words,when God Choose Mary before the foundations of the world and had His plans for Her to be the Mother Of God as written in the spoken Words yes,why listen to other people, when it is spoken word Gen 3:15 Mary Daughter of the Heavenly Father ,Mary Spouse of the Holy Spirit ,Mary Mother of God Jesus, so Mary’s seed Jesus,Catholic and those to honor Her as given by God,She(Mary) shall Crush his satan’s head.Word of God why change it,add or remove.
Luke 1:28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Words of the Heavenly Father to Mary Hail Full of Grace ,note angle is only a messenger,
Luke 1:41 When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the child leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth (Elizabeth is only an instrument, Holy Spirit is speaking through her and testifying about Mary) ,since with out the Holy Spirit no one can call Lord ) was filled with the Holy Spirit 42 and exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. 43 And why has this happened to me, that the mother of my Lord comes to me? 44 For as soon as I heard the sound of your greeting, the child in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfillment of what was spoken to her by the Lord.” spoken not by humans or other But by the Heavenly Father
Correction here St Paul is not silent ,now you adding things,see below verseSt Paul is completely silent on, gives no such teaching about our Blessed Mary why?
Galatians 4:26 But the other woman corresponds to the Jerusalem (Mary) above; she is free(from sin) and she is our mother ( MARY). (MOTHER MARY IS SINLESS and Mary retain "perpetual virginity), 27 For it is written, “Rejoice, you childless one, you who bear no children, burst into song and shout, you who endure no birth pangs; for the children of the desolate woman are more numerous than the children of the one who is married.”
In honoring the words of Jesus in John 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman,(addressing as the Women of Genesis 3:15 the New Eve our Mother Mary) behold, your son!” 27 Then he said to the disciple, “Behold, your mother!”( its a commandment Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long(Eternity ) in the land (Heaven)which the Lord your God gives you).And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home(His heart, the Church, for all human race for Eternity).
Word of God Made flesh in Mother Mary,John 1:1-5,14.
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Gen 3:15 Mary’s seed Jesus,children of Mary Catholic and those to honor Her as given by God,She(Mary) shall Crush his satan’s head.Word of God why change it,add or remove.
Revelation 12:14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle=(ST John) that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water=(Word of God, false doctrines as some protestants does ) like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth=(Catholic and all those who honor Her and respect Her) opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman(Mother Mary ), and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring= (Catholic and other who honor Mother Mary , on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
Heavenly Father also bestow his great Grace to Mary ,Luke 1:28 Hail Full of Grace.
All have sinner including all the Prophets ,all humans,except Mary as God Choose Her to be a pure Vessel to Contain Jesus,nothing defile enters Heaven,why will Jesus be born to a person who with sin His is the holy of hollies, that’s why God kept Her holy and for that She co-operated with Jesus and suffered much to save mankind from death ,sin and satan, You and i ,all are indebted to Her being our mother and Her powerful intercession before God as She is sinless.God Bless
963 Since the Virgin Mary’s role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is ‘clearly the mother of the members of Christ’ . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
I. MARY’S MOTHERHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCH
Wholly united with her Son . . .
964 Mary’s role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. “This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death”;504 it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:
Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother’s heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: “Woman, behold your son.”
Revelation 12:14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle=(ST John) that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water=(Word of God, false doctrines as some protestants does ) like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth=(Catholic and all those who honor Her and respect Her) opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman(Mother Mary ), and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring= (Catholic and other who honor Mother Mary , on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
Heavenly Father also bestow his great Grace to Mary ,Luke 1:28 Hail Full of Grace.
All have sinner including all the Prophets ,all humans,except Mary as God Choose Her to be a pure Vessel to Contain Jesus,nothing defile enters Heaven,why will Jesus be born to a person who with sin His is the holy of hollies, that’s why God kept Her holy and for that She co-operated with Jesus and suffered much to save mankind from death ,sin and satan, You and i ,all are indebted to Her being our mother and Her powerful intercession before God as She is sinless.God Bless
963 Since the Virgin Mary’s role in the mystery of Christ and the Spirit has been treated, it is fitting now to consider her place in the mystery of the Church. "The Virgin Mary . . . is acknowledged and honored as being truly the Mother of God and of the redeemer. . . . She is ‘clearly the mother of the members of Christ’ . . . since she has by her charity joined in bringing about the birth of believers in the Church, who are members of its head."502 "Mary, Mother of Christ, Mother of the Church."503
I. MARY’S MOTHERHOOD WITH REGARD TO THE CHURCH
Wholly united with her Son . . .
964 Mary’s role in the Church is inseparable from her union with Christ and flows directly from it. “This union of the mother with the Son in the work of salvation is made manifest from the time of Christ’s virginal conception up to his death”;504 it is made manifest above all at the hour of his Passion:
Thus the Blessed Virgin advanced in her pilgrimage of faith, and faithfully persevered in her union with her Son unto the cross. There she stood, in keeping with the divine plan, enduring with her only begotten Son the intensity of his suffering, joining herself with his sacrifice in her mother’s heart, and lovingly consenting to the immolation of this victim, born of her: to be given, by the same Christ Jesus dying on the cross, as a mother to his disciple, with these words: “Woman, behold your son.”
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Gen 3:15 Mary’s seed Jesus,children of Mary Catholic and those to honor Her as given by God,She(Mary) shall Crush his satan’s head.Word of God why change it,add or remove.
Revelation 12:14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle=(ST John) that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water=(Word of God, false doctrines as some protestants does ) like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth=(Catholic and all those who honor Her and respect Her) opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman(Mother Mary ), and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring= (Catholic and other who honor Mother Mary , on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
Heavenly Father also bestow his great Grace to Mary ,Luke 1:28 Hail Full of Grace.
All have sinner including all the Prophets ,all humans,except Mary as God Choose Her to be a pure Vessel to Contain Jesus,nothing defile enters Heaven,why will Jesus be born to a person who’s with sin. His is the holy of hollies, that’s why God kept Her holy and for that She co-operated with Jesus and suffered much to save mankind from death ,sin and satan, You and i ,all are indebted to Her being our mother and Her powerful intercession before God as She is sinless.God Bless
Finally Only The Catholic Church has the sole right to interpret the scriptures and to correct errors Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock, of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
2 Timothy 3: 13 But wicked people and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving others and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, 15 and how from childhood you have known the sacred writings that are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:20-21 20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 because no prophecy ever came by human will, but men and women moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
Revelation 12:14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle=(ST John) that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water=(Word of God, false doctrines as some protestants does ) like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth=(Catholic and all those who honor Her and respect Her) opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon was angry with the woman(Mother Mary ), and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring= (Catholic and other who honor Mother Mary , on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.
Heavenly Father also bestow his great Grace to Mary ,Luke 1:28 Hail Full of Grace.
All have sinner including all the Prophets ,all humans,except Mary as God Choose Her to be a pure Vessel to Contain Jesus,nothing defile enters Heaven,why will Jesus be born to a person who’s with sin. His is the holy of hollies, that’s why God kept Her holy and for that She co-operated with Jesus and suffered much to save mankind from death ,sin and satan, You and i ,all are indebted to Her being our mother and Her powerful intercession before God as She is sinless.God Bless
Finally Only The Catholic Church has the sole right to interpret the scriptures and to correct errors Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and over all the flock, of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God that he obtained with the blood of his own Son.
2 Timothy 3: 13 But wicked people and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving others and being deceived. 14 But as for you, continue in what you have learned and firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it, 15 and how from childhood you have known the sacred writings that are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17 so that everyone who belongs to God may be proficient, equipped for every good work.
2 Peter 1:20-21 20 First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, 21 because no prophecy ever came by human will, but men and women moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.
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Respectfully opinion one is a Catholic, whether one believes me or not matters not to me.
Like many Catholics >>One has many questions when studying the Spoken Word and like Pope Benedict states as Timothy>> study study show thy self approved.
Jesus stated search the Scriptures, test all Spirits.
One does not take the Bible literally either.
Jesus teaches us does he not >>not just what one reads, but what one hears? Let your ears hear what the Holy Spirit says…silence is golden is it not?
Ask in prayer trust in Him, to lead you.
Keeping one very busywith lots of questions, sending one in search of
Gen 3:15 >states to honor her as given by God.
One honors, Loves our Blessed Mother Mary, but one does not worship her, that would be breaking the 1st Commandment and would be idolatry, would it not?
Ones heart, soul, mind belongs solely to the authority over me > my Heavenly Father
Obey the Commandments if one wants to enter the Kingdom and Love your neighbor as you love yourself. Pope Francis in his homilies tells us to practice tolerance.
Do not know what ones issue is with the Blessed Mother, but they are not my issues or my reality or my concerns, I have questions, but not about my Blessed Mother.
My relationship is beautiful, Honorable, loving with my Blessed Mary dearly :heartpulse Not because I am forced, to love her, but because >I have Lovingly and freely chosen to do so, nor do I need to answer such to no one.
Love cannot be forced even our Heavenly Father tells us > You take that kind of Love> I will not.
If one is seeking to bring others to our Blessed Mother… a kind suggestion only to you, maybe try a softer approach?
when one has questions needing answers to >one goes first > to Our Heavenly Father>>then within their own C Church for such answers and my questions are not about the Blessed Mother
What I have pointed out Scripture verses within my post. Why> Because it was greatly important within Jesus whole preaching, teaching, wanting all to>> hear>to know Let your ears hear >
. and do all that pleases him.>>days are coming>>Jeremiah 31:31-31-34 > when aIl will >>know me > I will teach you
Jesus pleased his heavenly Father, did he not?
This is my Son in whom I am well pleased.
King David was a man after God’s own heart!
When you love someone you want to please them, not just words>be doers James Epistles>One is Honoring my Blessed Mother request, by >>doing>> what pleases her > by obeying her loving request >Do what He tells you !
Ending ones discussion and thank you kindly, for your replies, believe it or not I learned much from you, gave a great important answer to me, now >> I know >answers one was seeking were not about Blessed Mother either!
Praise, Glory to My Heavenly Father, trust fully in Him>>guides and directs me > on the right road, keep going > sometimes such truths can be greatly painful at first!
Peace
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Your right Saint Paul did say “Salute Mary who has worked hard for you” Romans 16:6
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I only read a few pages of the Glories of Mary and it has been wonderful to read.
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The Glories of Mary is not heretical…
It is a document full of love poetry and personal devotions of a saint who lived a live of distinguished holiness…the book is not doctrinal
With that said, I’m not a fan of this type of spiritual writing because it is so often misunderstood and exaggerated to doctrinal in nature… in his Apologia, Blessed John Henry Newman said that the unabridged version of The Glories of Mary by St Liguori predjudiced him against the Catholic religion more than any other author…
It is a document full of love poetry and personal devotions of a saint who lived a live of distinguished holiness…the book is not doctrinal
With that said, I’m not a fan of this type of spiritual writing because it is so often misunderstood and exaggerated to doctrinal in nature… in his Apologia, Blessed John Henry Newman said that the unabridged version of The Glories of Mary by St Liguori predjudiced him against the Catholic religion more than any other author…
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Jesus Christ always grants His mother’s requests. Always!
Why? Because Mary doesn’t make any requests that don’t already accord with God’s will! And how can our Blessed Mother, Queen of Heaven, not know God’s will?
I believe it is in this sense of respectful and perfect agreement that the word “obedience” is used. There is no contradiction, only accord, based upon limitless love between God and His most perfect creature, the sinless and ever virgin Mary.
Why? Because Mary doesn’t make any requests that don’t already accord with God’s will! And how can our Blessed Mother, Queen of Heaven, not know God’s will?
I believe it is in this sense of respectful and perfect agreement that the word “obedience” is used. There is no contradiction, only accord, based upon limitless love between God and His most perfect creature, the sinless and ever virgin Mary.
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It is one of the best books I have ever read.
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Well, at the wedding feast in Cana, Mary told Jesus to turn water into wine even though it was against his plan and his “time had not yet come.”
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It is Jesus Himself who established the Catholic Church and which will never fail, whatever Jesus begins, will never come to an end as in Matthew 16:16-18… , and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.If one is Catholic,one has to died a Catholic Faithful till the end.Sure seek the truth and truth will set you free,but at the same time Sirach 3:21-24 Neither seek what is too difficult for you, nor investigate what is beyond your power.22 Reflect upon what you have been commanded, for what is hidden is not your concern.23 Do not meddle in matters that are beyond you,for more than you can understand has been shown you.24 For their conceit has led many astray, and wrong opinion has impaired their judgment.
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by its cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough.
Sorry if you think that way, no one can force anyone to believe, God has given us free will to choose, it was my concern for your soul and others as a brother in Christ, was straight forward and direct. didn’t mean to force anyone, even God doesn’t force anyone,how can i 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not peddlers of God’s word like so many; but in Christ we speak as persons of sincerity, as persons sent from God and standing in his presence. Acts 24:16 Therefore I do my best always to have a clear conscience toward God and all people.
In honoring the words of Jesus in John 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman,(addressing as the Women of Genesis 3:15 the New Eve our Mother Mary) behold, your son!” its a commandment Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long(Eternity ) in the land (Heaven)which the Lord your God gives you).And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home(His heart, the Church, for all human race for Eternity). Ending ones discussion ,thank you too for everything.
Ephesians 4:13 until all of us come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to maturity, to the measure of the full stature of Christ.GOD BLESS
2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by its cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.4 For if someone comes and proclaims another Jesus than the one we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you submit to it readily enough.
Catholic don’t worship Mary but honor her, you claim to be catholic, but yet you don’t understand, you keep repeating even till, this last post,but for your sake am emphasizing here again, Catholic worship God (HOLY TRINITY) and not Mary but we only honor her as the Mother of God ,as He does too.
Sorry if you think that way, no one can force anyone to believe, God has given us free will to choose, it was my concern for your soul and others as a brother in Christ, was straight forward and direct. didn’t mean to force anyone, even God doesn’t force anyone,how can i 2 Corinthians 2:17 For we are not peddlers of God’s word like so many; but in Christ we speak as persons of sincerity, as persons sent from God and standing in his presence. Acts 24:16 Therefore I do my best always to have a clear conscience toward God and all people.
In honoring the words of Jesus in John 19:26 When Jesus saw his mother, and the disciple whom he loved standing near, he said to his mother, “Woman,(addressing as the Women of Genesis 3:15 the New Eve our Mother Mary) behold, your son!” its a commandment Exodus 20:12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long(Eternity ) in the land (Heaven)which the Lord your God gives you).And from that hour the disciple took her to his own home(His heart, the Church, for all human race for Eternity). Ending ones discussion ,thank you too for everything.
Ephesians 4:13 until all of us come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to maturity, to the measure of the full stature of Christ.GOD BLESS
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