Is the Holy Bible the MOST important Book about GOD?

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As a minister of the Holy Word, and reading and studying alot, I find it is the most important Word, and Work of GOD in the world and of course the entire creation. I use the old King James Version Bible, from 1611. I checked the translations and have found that it matches the oringinal Hebrew version. That seems to be the main adverse answers I receive when I talk to people about it, is that there are many versions and therefore this version is not anymore than the others, and just opinion, and there is just not enough evidence to keep up wih it AS THE TRUTH of God, from His mouth, from His oracles, from His command to write it in the roll of a book.The prophets and disciples seemingly were God’s administrative assistants, secretaries if you will.
There are other very good reasons to believe this is the MAIN TRUTH OF GOD to keep up with, more than any other. Is because Jesus says Heaven and earth will pass away, but His WORDS will NEVER pass away. When the earth is destroyed in the end, by GOD…all other books, papers, documents, parchments, and versions NOT ordained by GOD will be burned up with fervent heat. But His version, the original Hebrew version/Greek, unto the old King James Version, here in America will never pass away, and is settled in Heaven forever! What a book, from His mouth! We need to pray for understanding, read it, pray about it, pray from it, preach from it, and use it as our daily bread. Then more people will become believers in what He says, and maybe turn form their evil ways and be saved, and God will turn some of His wrath, and judgement, and Hell to come. And we will have relief in the earth again, until Christ coming! Do you want relief? I do.
Have you ever tried to tell someone something and they would not listen? Did you get hurt, upset and finally angry…maybe your teenagers, your husband, your wife? How do you think Father God, and Jesus Christ feel? The Holy Word is what they use first and always, just because He said so. Not my version, not yours, not theirs. And how will you have the Holy Spirit and power like Christ promises? He will teach and preach from God’s Word first everytime- always…by His will the Word is brought, taught, preached. The Holy Spirit, He is a person of God, and He will never do it your way…never my way, and never their way, He loves Jesus and Father God, more than we claim to, so He will do it the way GOD SAYS ONLY. He wants it the verys same for everyone. He comes to help you… if you will, do it God’s way…you cannot do anything for Him in your own ways, books, style, it has to be in God’s way, then it will work. Jesus says, Father your will be done…And then He died for our sins and sickness. His will and testament that He shares with us (co-heir) is in His Holy Book, the King James Version Bible or the oringinal Hebrew and Greek, if you read that language. Get one today, and please help me pray for our lives, before it is too late!!! Watch and Pray always, AMEN.
 
Yes Jesus, I really believe you! I know you did not give us the Bible for no reason, and as part of our inheritance. Thanks and we love you!
 
Hi Rev, what is your view on those Christians who dont speak English…what kind of translation did God leave them?
 
He left them a real nice TRUTH version too, translatedted from the Hebrew/Greek, by His Holy Will brought by His Holy Ghost Spirit and Power to see to it His WILL was done about it, in that person’s country. This is the USA.
He also would hope when someone is trying to minister to the lost and dying world… that one would not be so self righteous and mock that minister.
Jesus understood the righteous and He said they did NOT need Him, He came to minister to the lost ,sick, and dying, in the dark valleys of sin, out in the deep dark waters is where He told His disciples to cast their net(s), for the big catch(haul)…of mankind to be saved from sin and sickness.
If you do not need the Savior, why bother to fuss about His Holy Words anyway? Please pray about it. Amen!
 
Why is this under Moral Theology?

Wasn’t the original KJV full of errors?

Just for starters.
 
Moral Theology…is the very best place to put God’s Truth from the Holy Bible Truth, from God’s mouth -not moral theology…man spoken terms.
God is not mocked, every man a liar, but God the Truth.
His Holy Words are the only real Truth in this world, agree with Him, and be in the real TRUTH too, not theology. Watch and pray, Amen.
 
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But His version, the original Hebrew version/Greek, unto the old King James Version, here in America will never pass away, and is settled in Heaven forever!
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Rev, thanks for posting your opinions regarding the King James and other English-language translations of sacred scripture. Can you tell us what gives you special insight to know that the KJV and only the KJV is ordained by God for use in the English-speaking world? Furthermore, is yours the KJV that contains the 7 books contained in Catholic Bibles but not most Protestant Bibles? Thanks and God Bless!
 
  1. If the KJV is the only inspired Word of God, which one of the several revisions is the inspired one? There have been several revisions of the Authorized Version since 1611, the most recent in 1769. The 1769 version is the one in print today.
  2. If you say the 1611 version, then you must accept the Apocrypha as inspired, as the Translators were tasked with these writings, as well.
  3. The Translators certainly were not aware they were creating a directly inspired work. Further, the original manuscripts, for the 1611 version that were sent to the printer exactly resembled English court documents of the era.
  4. The italicized text does not appear in the original Greek and Hebrew, and any student of God’s Word is well aware of the solemn warning in the Book of Revelation 22:18-19 against adding to or removing from God’s Word.
  5. The directions to the Translators are very specific, even to the point of requiring use of traditional ecclesiastical words like church instead of the more correct congregation.
  6. King James intended the KJV to be a revision of the Bishop’s Bible, not a new work, and this is seen in the Epistle from the Translators that procedes the 1611 version.
  7. The New Testament is prophesied of in the Old Testament; God never does anything without telling his servants the Prophets (Amos 3:7). The question the KJO advocate must answer is, something this important must have some prophecy predicting it. Where is this prophecy in any of the 66 Books of the Bible?
  8. Biblical inerrancy does not and has never been understood by anyone that subscribes to the teaching to include or imply inerrant translations; inerrancy instead means that the original source documents are without error.
  9. The KJV was translated in English. To teach that this is the only inspired Word of God is a subtly racist teaching, in light of Gal. 3:28.
  10. Many King James Only advocates are to some extent or other anti-Catholic. It is now a fairly well-settled fact that the Translators at least in part referred to the Douay-Rheims translation of the Bible, a translation produced by English Catholics.
 
ReverendV said:
Moral Theology…is the very best place to put God’s Truth from the Holy Bible Truth, from God’s mouth -not moral theology…man spoken terms.
God is not mocked, every man a liar, but God the Truth.
His Holy Words are the only real Truth in this world, agree with Him, and be in the real TRUTH too, not theology. Watch and pray, Amen.
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I certainly admire your zeal, but remember sound theology is what keeps our personal feelings, opinions, and interpretations from getting in the way of the TRUTH.😉

Peace.
 
ReverendV said:
I checked the translations and have found that it matches the oringinal Hebrew version.
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You are a master of Hebrew and Greek then? But how do you know that it is the best English translation if you seemingly don’t speak English that well yourself? (Or maybe you are just not very good at typing with proper grammar?) :confused:
 
For the TRUTH regarding which bible to use, I for starters would consult the only TRUE authority on earth, the CATHOLIC CHURCH. God bless.
 
So it is debate here? That may fall into sin, I had better get out. No nice remarks about God’s Holy mouth/oracles/word? I love your Words, Jesus, I love your Word’s God. they are precious to one’s soul. Amen.
 
Reverend:

I’ve actually been with the forums for quite a while, but recently changed my sign-on. I’ve seen many like you come and go. They come on here like gangbusters thinking you are going to whisk away some of us poor ignorant slobs from a lifetime of servitude to the Whore of Babylon.

Well, I think you will be surprised to see just how intelligent some are on here (myself NOT included) and what an intense love some have for Jesus Christ (myself included). Stick around, you may be pleasantly surprised at what you find.🙂

Peace be to you:

Enoch
 
ReverendV said:
So it is debate here? That may fall into sin, I had better get out. No nice remarks about God’s Holy mouth/oracles/word? I love your Words, Jesus, I love your Word’s God. they are precious to one’s soul. Amen.
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We Catholics think so highly of Sacred Scripture :highprayer: that we even have a Dogmatic Constitution about it that you might like to read:

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html

JESUS is THE Word of God!

God bless you!
 
What ever happened to Tradition, you know the oral teachings that accompanied the Church before the Bible was laid out.
 
FCEGM said:
We Catholics think so highly of Sacred Scripture :highprayer: that we even have a Dogmatic Constitution about it that you might like to read:

vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_const_19651118_dei-verbum_en.html

JESUS is THE Word of God!

God bless you!
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And not only that, we Catholics think the Bible is so important that in the course of 3 years, nearly the entire Bible is read out loud at Sunday Mass. If you attend Daily Mass, you can hear the whole thing in 2 years.

Catholics also remember a time before the Bible, as a collected work, did not exist.

The 1769 revision of of the 1611 KJV translation is a beautiful rendition. (Thank you, Enoch, for correctly pointing out that the original 1611 translation is not available in an uncorrected form.)

But other English translations have much beauty as well. The earlier Douay-Rhiems is also very lovely. The Revised Standard version is not bad, and so on and so forth. However, all translations have strengths and weaknesses. For honest scholarly study, one must look to the original language.

Professional interpreters know that that there are many approaches to translation. Word choice and sentence structure vary and the natural evolution and alteration in language, both the source language and desired language.

Being an interpreter is not my cup of tea. I think I will stick to rocket science. It is easier and safer.
 
I have a problem with a version that translates Genesis 3:15 as “It will crush your head.” Either it is he or she, I’m just not knowlegeable enough to determine which.
 
Hi, Reverend 👋

First off, I too find it odd that this is in Moral Theology instead of Apologetics, were it rightly belongs. :hmmm:
I would encourage you to stick around. I’m sure we could both learn something from each other. After all that’s what debating does. It encourages you to learn.

So, what did those Christians who did not have the Greek/Hebrew text or the KJV do? Were they simply up a creek because they did not have an authoritative version of Scripture?

The Bible is good to have and it is important. However, it is not, by itself, necessary for salvation. The Church that Jesus founded, however, is necessary for salvation. As Jesus himself stated in Matt 18 “If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the Church; and if he refuses to listen even to the Church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.” So if I have a problem I’m instructed to go to the Church with my problem, not the Bible. For as St Paul says in 1 Tim 3; “If I am delayed, you may know how one ought to act in the household of God, which is the Church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the Truth.” Again the Church will teach me how I am to behave as a Christian, the Bible won’t do that.

Another thing, I think one of us might have something thing a little confused? You see, I was always taught that the Word was Jesus Christ, not the Bible. According to John “In the begining was the Word, the Word was with God, the Word was God.” This is clearly NOT referring to the Bible since the writing of the Bible was not completed until somewhere between 90-100 AD. And before Pentecost the writings of the New Testament had not even been started. A few verses down John says “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,… glory as the only Son from the Father.” So as we can see, the Word is a living being. The Bible is not a living being. Jesus Christ is a living being and Jesus Christ is the Word become flesh. And since Jesus himself stated in Matt 16, “And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it.” Jesus says that His Church will stand the test of time. Not the Bible. The Bible will of course be around but only because the Church will protect it. I thank God that He did give us the Bible, but I am even more thankful that He gave us His Church to show us the way to heaven.

God Bless you, Reverend :tiphat:
 
Thanks Dear Jesus for the precious Words of you and our Father.
You are the Holy Word in Heaven. Amen.
 
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